Posted by Nalod:

You two dissected Briggs' criticism completely

'Core, ganging up on a well thought out opinion discourages thought.
This is a FORUM, where points and counter-points are made all the time. If an opinion is as well though-out as you say, then a valid counter-point would not exist.

Not saying you have to agree, but the competitive nature of point and counter point is not a game, but the sharing of information.
Exactly, so where did I say that it wasn't?

Briggs bought some good points. If you discourage thought, you'll have a very boring site.
It seems as though you tend to always have an issue with my commentary on issues. Counter-points do NOT discourage thought. Strong points stand on their own./

Briggs long has believed building from within and with trades is the best way to create a deep championship quality team. Like the bulls, like the Pistons. The lakers with shaq changed the rules forever.

With The Laydog era over, and Dolan gone to the dark side, there will be those whom won't agree with this philosphy, or perhaps we paid to much in haste to get Marbury NOW! PHX was very motivated to dump salary, and perhaps we did over pay. Its a reasonable argument, opinion, or what ever.
And the counter-points were just as reasonable, if not moreso. I agreed with those counterpoints, and expressed that.

The counterpoints to his post were also reasonable. Your Cheering on as to whether it was disected (discredited) or not was cheap.
DO NOT attempt to put words in my mouth. We both know where that leads. If you have trouble with the difference between the definitions of Dissected and discredited, then I strongly suggest that you consult a dictionary. What is cheap is the try at twisting my words as a subtle way to provoke an arguement.

Why harp on you for this things? Its a nice site, but cheap shots have ruined other sites before, and I would hate to see this one go away.
Look in the mirror and read that line to youself. I see the effort to bait me.

Your points are mostly thought out and well presented. Let your opinions and thoughts speak well for themselves. Let others speak for themselves. Thats not unreasonable, is it?
No it's not. Neither is agreement when a part-by-part counterpoint is made. I will continue to do both.

Posted by technomaster:

...from the Knick perspective, it's important to get good draft picks if only to use them as leverage to a proven player. The win-now/retooling on the fly attitude seems like just as legitimate a plan in terms of winning championships as the rebuilding from scratch plan.

Luxury tax aside, the *only* downside in building a team the way the Knicks have for the last decade or so is the high salary. For the most part, we've gotten players we would have LOVED to draft--- but we get them as veterans, not as projects. As a result, we just have to pay them more, as they're closer to finished products.

Posted by playa2:

This is the thread that told it all. start with briggs.

Posted by playa2:

This is the thread that told it all. start with briggs.