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kam77
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3/22/2010  2:27 PM
JJ thinks D'antoni is a good coach.

"I think that Mike’s a realist," Jeffries said. "Defending, like anything else in the NBA, is a talent level. And you can’t have people that are not great defenders and expect them to be great defenders. Just like you can’t have people that aren’t great scorers and expect them to be great scorers. He put me out there to be a defender and he puts guys out there to be scorers. He does focus on defense, but if you don’t have defensive players, then you’re not going to be a great defensive team."

Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/65502/20100322/jeffries_says_dantoni_is_an_incredible_coach/#ixzz0ivnb2CA0

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/22/2010  2:32 PM
wouldn't it help if you played defensive players when you're looking to play defense tho?... Darko & Jordan Hill were our best low post defenders yet they never got any run... Larry Hughes & Toney Douglas were 2 of our top pereimeter defenders but they were pushed to the end of the bench in favor of guys like Duhon & Bender who were both weak defensively... isn't that a fair criticism of the head coach if the topic of discussion is on why he doesn't focus more on playing defense?
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kam77
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3/22/2010  2:39 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/22/2010  2:40 PM
Darko not playing is dissapointing (doesn't mean we could've given him Duhon's minutes) but if you were the coach and you're not playing Hill, how can you justify playing Darko? Someone will always claim they're unhappy. D'anotni figures rookies will be happier than a vet not playing.

Bender was a complete curveball Donnie threw D'antoni.

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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3/22/2010  2:46 PM
TMS wrote:wouldn't it help if you played defensive players when you're looking to play defense tho?... Darko & Jordan Hill were our best low post defenders yet they never got any run... Larry Hughes & Toney Douglas were 2 of our top pereimeter defenders but they were pushed to the end of the bench in favor of guys like Duhon & Bender who were both weak defensively... isn't that a fair criticism of the head coach if the topic of discussion is on why he doesn't focus more on playing defense?

it's funny that you don't put in Jefferies name into this defense players remarks.

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3/22/2010  2:50 PM
kam77 wrote:Darko not playing is dissapointing (doesn't mean we could've given him Duhon's minutes) but if you were the coach and you're not playing Hill, how can you justify playing Darko? Someone will always claim they're unhappy. D'anotni figures rookies will be happier than a vet not playing.

Bender was a complete curveball Donnie threw D'antoni.

Darko not playing is not my main problem, my main problem is letting our #8 lottery pick's value completely tank by not playing him at all... if the logic behind playing Fishlips 35+ a night this season was to try & raise his trade value, it would have made a ton more sense to play the rookie kid that u might have to end up trading away to dump his contract... at least then even if u can't swing a deal, u have invested into his growth during a season that meant nothing other than trying to evaluate assets that were going to be here past this season.

Darko's situation is just a disappointment in that MDA never even gave him a look after Donnie traded for him & then we ended up giving him away for monetary savings... what was the point in trading for him to begin with in that case?

& on top of that, if Bender was a curveball that Donnie threw at MDA, doesn't that concern u that our GM & head coach are obviously not seeing eye to eye on certain roster moves? u can also throw in Nate Robinson onto the equation who also got phased out of the rotation by MDA after being signed to a 1 year extension by Donnie Walsh... MDA obviously was never going to use Nate beyond this season, so if Donnie decided he wanted to make sure we got something back for him rather than letting him walk at the end of last year, wouldn't it have made sense to feature him more in the offense rather than making him a pariah & destroying any kind of value he might have had? IMO we were damn lucky to have gotten Bill Walker & JR Giddens in that deal now that u look at how things played out, but if Nate had been featured in the offense this year u have to figure there might have been better opportunities to trade him for better assets, no?

i got no problems w/playing vets over rookies as long as those vets are better players, but that wasn't the case this season... & MDA has yet to offer any kind of logical explanation for how he managed the rookies' playing time other than saying he only likes to play "good rookies"... come on dude, don't u think that's a major copout on his part?

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3/22/2010  2:53 PM
martin wrote:
TMS wrote:wouldn't it help if you played defensive players when you're looking to play defense tho?... Darko & Jordan Hill were our best low post defenders yet they never got any run... Larry Hughes & Toney Douglas were 2 of our top pereimeter defenders but they were pushed to the end of the bench in favor of guys like Duhon & Bender who were both weak defensively... isn't that a fair criticism of the head coach if the topic of discussion is on why he doesn't focus more on playing defense?

it's funny that you don't put in Jefferies name into this defense players remarks.

why would i put him into my remarks that he should have been playing when he was playing a ****load of minutes this season? care to offer a reasonable explanation on why guys like Duhon & Bender were playing over guys like Nate, Hughes, Hill, Darko & Douglas?

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3/22/2010  4:22 PM
On a semi-related note, in the "No Shit, Sherlock" portion of the news, Isola said it would be in 's best interests not to piss Little Jimmy off.
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3/22/2010  4:52 PM
TMS wrote:why would i put him into my remarks that he should have been playing when he was playing a ****load of minutes this season? care to offer a reasonable explanation on why guys like Duhon & Bender were playing over guys like Nate, Hughes, Hill, Darko & Douglas?

Duhon was more of a hope that the guy could get his offensive game together. If he was not slumping horribly it would've made the entire season play out a lot differently. Not that we'd be killing teams, but I doubt those long losing streaks would've happened early in the season if Duhon could've found his stroke. He's not great, but he can play better than he did.

Nate was explained by MDA as a combination of factors but most important was the fact that the team was playing better D and winning while he was out. On any team a player can fall out of the rotation for lots of reasons. Doesn't mean they can't get back in. We don't have to agree with it, but that's a coaching thing.

Hughes isn't worth talking about! I mean we're talking about Hughes here.

Darko? Well the guy really wasn't giving any energy from what I saw of him. He can't just be out there floating around in this system. On some other team that is run differently he can float and get stats, but he just messes up the flow here. Thing to remember is that the system is killed when players don't fit the way the system is set up. He just never looked like he wanted to shoot it and there are times when you completely mess up the flow if you don't. I just hate when he's brought up, cuz he never gave us much of anything and I think he had the ability to do more. Perhaps he just feels more comfortable in a conventional system.

Douglas could've played more, but there are a ton of coaches that don't like to play rooks a ton early on. I do know that he never really showed early on that he was much of a floor general. He could score, but then that isn't everything and he wasn't always on. He had some poor shooting games where he still got major minutes, cuz I think he was good on D, but overall I think MDA didn't feel he was ready. It also could be a case of trying to hide guys, which I think they may have been doing with Hill. It's entirely possible, that DW knowing he was going to be making trades, didn't want any of the kids to shine until after they made deals, cuz he may have wanted them to seem like they weren't that good. Any sign that they could play would make a team more interested. As it is, it didn't stop Morey who is pretty shrewd from asking for and getting Hill anyway. I really am starting to think that is why DW never really complained about his lack of PT.

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3/22/2010  4:55 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/22/2010  4:56 PM
Hughes isn't worth talking about! I mean we're talking about Hughes here.

neither is Chris Duhon... i'm sorry but if u think Duhon is a better player than Hughes you're sorely mistaken my brotha.

& i think it's fairly obvious that Toney Douglas is 10 times the player Duhon is as well... sorry, but there's no defending MDA on this one... i applaud u for ur continued efforts tho.

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