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nixluva
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3/15/2010  11:24 PM
Lebron will be a bit different on this team as opposed to his current team. We'll have a different mix of players and an entirely different system. I never really like paying too much attention to how someone looks on another team. He'll have a different supporting cast and a different coach etc. We don't know exactly how that will all effect how he plays. Plus this being NY, he'll quickly find out that the media won't let him get away with stuff that they do in Cleveland. That's the case for EVERY athlete that comes here.
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3/15/2010  11:28 PM
I would not turn away Lebron if we actually had an opportunity to sign him, but I can totally understand where holfresh is coming from.
What irks me the most is his pre-game dancing and stupid powder "ritual" that has been done over and over again, Garnett most recently.

I think I would get a lot more enjoyment out of it if we signed a nice pair like Wade & Gay and we were the ones to prevent Lebron from ever reaching the Finals... lol

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3/15/2010  11:34 PM
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holfresh wrote:Let me say this from the onset, a LeBron signing completely changes the face of this franchise for the better, pronto...That said, watching this guy a few years has left an empty feeling in my gut...Yesterday, I'm watching him play hitting off balance shots he should not be taking...The announcers going nuts saying it should count as extra points because of the degree of difficulty, I don't get it...

Basketball is a game of artistry that should be played a certain way...Magic knew that...Bird knew that...Watching Kobe and LeBron play leaves absent the wow factor that comes along with great basketball players...Jordan dominated the ball much in the same way but had that wow factor in his game...He made you want to watch him play...Watching these guys dominate the ball without the pretty no look passes, hitting the dagger three point shot, making the defensive stops, hitting the cutter to the basket, grabbing that huge rebound in crunch time leaves it all empty for me...

Personally, I don't want to spend the next five years watching LeBron jacking three point shots from close to midcourt...Adding no rhythm to the flow of the offense or no style of how to approach beating an opponent in a particular game...He passes the ball yes but is he a dedicated passer, is he willing to make that beautiful pass first than taking that difficult off balance shot...Bird was...Maybe it's my age or the feeling I got watching Bird and Magic last week during the HBO special...Today's starts just aren't playing the game the right way or as yesterday's stars showed us how to play it...Anyone or is it just me???

i can't believe you just wrote that.


ROFL.!!!!

But I can see where he is comming from...somewhat... but lebron is effective, that is the bottom line, plus he is unselfish, can pass, and a supremely talented athlete and student of the game.. Kobe gives you more of that wow factor, he is a more exciting player to watch, but how can one argue with lebrons success so far, and his impact on a team..

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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3/15/2010  11:35 PM
Alls I can say is, if Lebron comes here its over. MDA can teach him the nuances on the offense and he can definately take it from there. When you pair that up with how Lebron is looking to play D, things just start coming together in my head. He'll lead guys with his play and thats it, its over. We already have as big, or bigger chance than any other team to land him. If it does happen I am like 99% certain of that multiple championships will be coming our way.
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3/16/2010  1:28 AM
As I've said before, I would much rather put together a team that would stop LeBron than win with him.

If he doesn't come here, I'm looking forward to his first game at the garden, when, finally, knicks fans will get their tongues out of his arse.

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3/16/2010  8:29 AM
It's posts like these that make me want to choke myself.
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3/16/2010  8:33 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/16/2010  8:35 AM
you guys are FLAT BUGGING!!!

do you really know anything about basketball? i'm not kidding either.

this guy and his "brand" of basketball is averaging 9 ****ing assists per game on a ****-ass team!

oh and just happens to put up 30 ppg on 50% shooting!

and for kicks adds in 7 boards.

did you watch the all-star game? did you see him set up wade and bosh all-day for all the baskets they wanted?

did you watch the olympics and see how he played?

have you noticed that he takes the cavs to the finals or conference finals with a woeful supporting cast?

and some of you have "problems" with his game?

LMFAO at you fools.

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3/16/2010  8:44 AM
Exactly Marv. It's ridiculous. LeBron James is the most unselfish SuperStar I think I've ever seen. He can average 40 ppg if he wanted to. So he has an ego and does his rituals before each game. Big freaking deal. He's the best player in the game and has earned the right to do whatever the hell he wants. We've been the worst team in the NBA overall the last decade. To bitch about signing King James is so damn stupid. Shame on all of you! We all get down on our knees and kiss King James feet if that what it takes for him to come here.
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3/16/2010  9:06 AM
Co-Sign Marv.

But I do hate LeBron James and his kiddie antics. If he does come to NY those have to go. We don't play that bush league crap here. Grow up, LeBron.

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3/16/2010  9:55 AM
We should not sign the best player to maybe ever play the game because he likes dancing and is 24 years olds and loves life and has hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy is better than Jordan. Do you know what he would be doing if you gave him Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Tony K? It's embarrassing.

This guy would make us a 50 win team in his sleep and the second best team in the conference.

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3/16/2010  10:08 AM
Marv wrote:you guys are FLAT BUGGING!!!

do you really know anything about basketball? i'm not kidding either.

this guy and his "brand" of basketball is averaging 9 ****ing assists per game on a ****-ass team!

oh and just happens to put up 30 ppg on 50% shooting!

and for kicks adds in 7 boards.

did you watch the all-star game? did you see him set up wade and bosh all-day for all the baskets they wanted?

did you watch the olympics and see how he played?

have you noticed that he takes the cavs to the finals or conference finals with a woeful supporting cast?

and some of you have "problems" with his game?

LMFAO at you fools.

Marv going "sebby" on the non believers.

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3/16/2010  10:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 3/16/2010  4:35 PM
MS wrote:We should not sign the best player to maybe ever play the game because he likes dancing and is 24 years olds and loves life and has hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy is better than Jordan. Do you know what he would be doing if you gave him Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Tony K? It's embarrassing.

This guy would make us a 50 win team in his sleep and the second best team in the conference.

First of all he is not better than Jordan...Let me know when he is considered one of the best defensive players in the league...Give me a shout when he has 200 steals and 100 block shots in the same season for several seasons...Let me know when he 5 rings goes to play baseball and come back to clip more rings...Let me know when he faces teams the caliber of the late 80's Knicks/ 90's Knicks, beat the Lakers with Magic, Bird in Boston, Isiah and the Piston, Reggie and the Pacers. and the Cavs with Harper, Ehlo, Price, Duagherty , The Sonics with Rainman and the Glove, Portland with Clyde Drex.., Phoenix with Brakley,KJ, Utah with Mailman and Stockton...etc... beat them all...The man dominated in the greatest era of basketball...ARE U KIDDING ME!!!

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3/16/2010  10:20 AM
Marv turning the inner ghetto a little loose for a minute...
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3/16/2010  10:23 AM
holfresh wrote:Let me say this from the onset, a LeBron signing completely changes the face of this franchise for the better, pronto...That said, watching this guy a few years has left an empty feeling in my gut...Yesterday, I'm watching him play hitting off balance shots he should not be taking...The announcers going nuts saying it should count as extra points because of the degree of difficulty, I don't get it...

Basketball is a game of artistry that should be played a certain way...Magic knew that...Bird knew that...Watching Kobe and LeBron play leaves absent the wow factor that comes along with great basketball players...Jordan dominated the ball much in the same way but had that wow factor in his game...He made you want to watch him play...Watching these guys dominate the ball without the pretty no look passes, hitting the dagger three point shot, making the defensive stops, hitting the cutter to the basket, grabbing that huge rebound in crunch time leaves it all empty for me...

Personally, I don't want to spend the next five years watching LeBron jacking three point shots from close to midcourt...Adding no rhythm to the flow of the offense or no style of how to approach beating an opponent in a particular game...He passes the ball yes but is he a dedicated passer, is he willing to make that beautiful pass first than taking that difficult off balance shot...Bird was...Maybe it's my age or the feeling I got watching Bird and Magic last week during the HBO special...Today's stars just aren't playing the game the right way or as yesterday's stars showed us how to play it...Anyone or is it just me???

I'm with you big time on this issue, don't get me wrong LJ is an absolute monster BBALL player, but he's the same way jordn was before he started relizing avg 40 pts ain't going to get you no rings, just scoring titles.

James is mature and a very good leader for his age, but the dancing and prancing around during blowout wins and the shanngings with teammates are the reasons he's yet to win a ring. I've seen guy's joke around and have a little fun on the bench especially in blowout wins, but his antics are those of a rookie.

Somebody mention that the game has evolved and no longer are players inclined to find the open man, rather then make a off the charts ridiculous shot attempt (did you see me on sports center), well if you take a good look at the teams that win championships, the best player doesn't go 1 on 5. IMO He's probably 2 years away from winning a ring no matter who he plays for next season.

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3/16/2010  10:36 AM
What the **** are some of you watching. Lebron could average 45-50pts a night. He always gets everyone involved. He isn't finding Artest, Gasol, Bynum, or Odom. He is finding Mo Williams, JJ Hickson, Jamario Moon, Anthony Parker. I don't know what you want the guy to do. He has the least amount of talent of any of the top teams. Fact! They have the best record because he makes everyone better. Him acting like an immature kid at 24 is really not a big deal.

The same way everyone dumps on our guy Lee who btw is one of 3 players in the entire league averaging 20 and 10 there is no reason to dump on Lebron for not winning. It's not his fault no one came to play vs the Magic last year or he almost carried the Cavs over the Celtics (and the biggest dip **** **** artist in the league KG) if it wasn't for a PJ Brown jumper.

Someone needs to explain how he is like Jordan because he hasn't had the best team out there. Give him Scottie Pippen a top 5 player in the league who btw really took the Bulls to the conference finals without Jordan (if not for the gift we were given in game 6). He might have actually took them to the finals and who knows. Where are the Cavs going without Lebron? 35 wins max.

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3/16/2010  10:41 AM

What I dig about lebron is I can almost imagine a situation where he can just play power forward and grab 20 rebounds if thats what we need. He is second to Kobe for being a late game go to player, and if you have Gallo and Tmac on the wings you got some nice kick out's to nail a shot.

The possibilities are endless with what he can do. He has that "Magic Johnson" capacity to play 5 positions

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3/16/2010  11:02 AM
holfresh wrote:
MS wrote:We should not sign the best player to maybe ever play the game because he likes dancing and is 24 years olds and loves life and has hundreds of millions of dollars. This guy is better than Jordan. Do you know what he would be doing if you gave him Scottie Pippen, Rodman, Tony K? It's embarrassing.

This guy would make us a 50 win team in his sleep and the second best team in the conference.

First of all he is not better than Jordan...Let me know when he is considered on of the best defensive players in the league...Give me a shout when he has 200 steals and 100 block shots in the same season for several seasons...Let me know when he 5 rings goes to play baseball and come back to clip more rings...Let me know when he faces teams the caliber of the late 80's Knicks/ 90's Knicks, beat the Lakers with Magic, Bird in Boston, Isiah and the Piston, Reggie and the Pacers. and the Cavs with Harper, Ehlo, Price, Duagherty , The Sonics with Rainman and the Glove, Portland with Clyde Drex.., Phoenix with Brakley,KJ, Utah with Mailman and Stockton...etc... beat them all...The man dominated in the greatest era of basketball...ARE U KIDDING ME!!!

Last year. He came in second in voting. At what age did Jordan come in the top 3? James did it by 24.

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3/16/2010  11:17 AM
You compare him to jordan because of his physical abilities and is off the charts IQ. The league is now set up for guys to fly through lane untouch. just imagine the beaten he would have taken if oak, lambier, rodman, dale davis, mason, ya know the guy's that would clobber you (head first) for coming in the lane especially during the playoffs.
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3/16/2010  11:20 AM
knicks1248 wrote:You compare him to jordan because of his physical abilities and is off the charts IQ. The league is now set up for guys to fly through lane untouch. just imagine the beaten he would have taken if oak, lambier, rodman, dale davis, mason, ya know the guy's that would clobber you (head first) for coming in the lane especially during the playoffs.

did those guys stop jordan? now take a look at lebron's body.

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3/16/2010  11:31 AM
Jordan was a little wafer when he came into the league as was most of the players. Weights and strength training wasn't even introduced till years later. Yes it was a more physical league back then. But if you are making the case for defense, how much easier was it to defend a person if you could body him up and hand check on every posssession.

Lebron is 260. Jordan was 225. Ewing was 240. He is quite possibly the fastest player end to end in the league and I'm sure he would have been handled a little more physically but guys aren't going to be so quick to hit him coming down the lane.

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