TMS wrote:

kam77 wrote:I saw this on MSG last night. It was done well. You could tell they were passionate about the subject. I liked how they pulled no punches especially with uncomfortable jabs at Starks and Mason at times. Ewing handled his failure with humility and grace though. Mason looked high as hell. He doesn't look in shape.

I liked how Reggie ended it saying "I just with it could've been the Eastern Conference finals". It was really just a personal victory for Reggie. Indiana got killed by Orlando in the next series. They won nothing.

Interesting that they used the Pacers "Boom Baby" broadcaster instead of using Marv's voice. Was it a money issue? I never realized the "boom baby" thing before but i guess it was big in Indiana.

They definitely overdid the NY stuff. NY gets demonized unfairly.

Also interesting that this was such a big deal for them but it wasn't even our biggest rivalry of the era. We were like the Bulls to their Knicks. Indiana was not feared. They feared us. They made a big deal about hicks vs big city. We were just going about our NYC bball bidness and they happened to be in the way. We weren't psyched out by them. They were psyched out by us. It was like when Shaq called Sacramento the 'Queens' cuz he wasn't scared of them (Not that we even cared enough to call Indiana anything).

This was also interesting for the Cheryl Miller big-sister angle. I thought it was interesting that the biggest night of Reggie's high school career was overshadowed by Cheryl's 103 point game.

It was a story of redemption. Of overcoming personal demons. And it made me like Reggie Miller.

Reggie is still a trashtalkin' wise ass punk if u ask me... i couldn't stand him then & i can't stand him now... taking those cheap shots at John Starks making him out to be the dumbest player who ever played & a choke artist was not cool in my book... Starks owned Reggie on more than 1 occasion if my memory serves, they make it out like Reggie was Michael Jordan & Starks was some scrub end of the bench journeyman who was lucky to be in the NBA.

agreed but if the shoe were on the other foot, we'd be applauding starks for clowing on reggie. that's fandom son!

thedpj wrote:

Cosmic wrote:Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.

The Director (Dan Klores) is a Knicks fan, who is frineds with Walsh, so he was very close to those Pacer teams of the 90's. He chose to only do 94-95, because that was what he considered to be the fascinating years since they were while MJ was gone. He threw in the 4pt play after the credits as a bone for us Knicks fans.

As for 30 for 30, they didn't open the series with Wining Time... this is like the 7th or 8th in the series. This was just the first one since the Winter hiatus. Also, there have been other basketball ones. There was one in October or November about Len Bias, and there is one coming up about Iverson....

Interesting info on Klores, didn't know that.

As to the 30/30 I didn't know it was a running series I thought it had just started. Back under the anti-ESPN rock I've been hiding under I go.

jimimou wrote:

TMS wrote:

kam77 wrote:I saw this on MSG last night. It was done well. You could tell they were passionate about the subject. I liked how they pulled no punches especially with uncomfortable jabs at Starks and Mason at times. Ewing handled his failure with humility and grace though. Mason looked high as hell. He doesn't look in shape.

I liked how Reggie ended it saying "I just with it could've been the Eastern Conference finals". It was really just a personal victory for Reggie. Indiana got killed by Orlando in the next series. They won nothing.

Interesting that they used the Pacers "Boom Baby" broadcaster instead of using Marv's voice. Was it a money issue? I never realized the "boom baby" thing before but i guess it was big in Indiana.

They definitely overdid the NY stuff. NY gets demonized unfairly.

Also interesting that this was such a big deal for them but it wasn't even our biggest rivalry of the era. We were like the Bulls to their Knicks. Indiana was not feared. They feared us. They made a big deal about hicks vs big city. We were just going about our NYC bball bidness and they happened to be in the way. We weren't psyched out by them. They were psyched out by us. It was like when Shaq called Sacramento the 'Queens' cuz he wasn't scared of them (Not that we even cared enough to call Indiana anything).

This was also interesting for the Cheryl Miller big-sister angle. I thought it was interesting that the biggest night of Reggie's high school career was overshadowed by Cheryl's 103 point game.

It was a story of redemption. Of overcoming personal demons. And it made me like Reggie Miller.

Reggie is still a trashtalkin' wise ass punk if u ask me... i couldn't stand him then & i can't stand him now... taking those cheap shots at John Starks making him out to be the dumbest player who ever played & a choke artist was not cool in my book... Starks owned Reggie on more than 1 occasion if my memory serves, they make it out like Reggie was Michael Jordan & Starks was some scrub end of the bench journeyman who was lucky to be in the NBA.

agreed but if the shoe were on the other foot, we'd be applauding starks for clowing on reggie. that's fandom son!

no doubt, if Reggie were a Knick & Starks was a Pacer i'd say Starks was a dumbphuck punk that needs to go back to bagging groceries... fandom is right broham

Cosmic wrote:

thedpj wrote:

Cosmic wrote:Anyways, this 30/30 thing isn't about 30 NBA teams. It's about 30 epic dramas that happened during 30 years of ESPN. I don't know what all the 30 are but so far it appears we might be the only basketball story.

To open their series with the Knicks/Pacers - to me - is pretty damn cool.

So give it some credit.

The Director (Dan Klores) is a Knicks fan, who is frineds with Walsh, so he was very close to those Pacer teams of the 90's. He chose to only do 94-95, because that was what he considered to be the fascinating years since they were while MJ was gone. He threw in the 4pt play after the credits as a bone for us Knicks fans.

As for 30 for 30, they didn't open the series with Wining Time... this is like the 7th or 8th in the series. This was just the first one since the Winter hiatus. Also, there have been other basketball ones. There was one in October or November about Len Bias, and there is one coming up about Iverson....

Interesting info on Klores, didn't know that.

As to the 30/30 I didn't know it was a running series I thought it had just started. Back under the anti-ESPN rock I've been hiding under I go.

Ur missing out, this series is one of the best things ESPN has ever done...

TMS wrote:

I saw this pic and the signature underneath it....still laughing.