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fishmike
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3/9/2010  12:45 PM
haha... just wait till we are 5-6 in Nov and Briggs is posting Anthony Randolph's stat lines
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3/9/2010  12:46 PM
fishmike wrote:haha... just wait till we are 5-6 in Nov and Briggs is posting Anthony Randolph's stat lines

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HAHAHA

and in other news: CJ Watson will save the Knicks

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3/9/2010  12:46 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:am I the only one who'd be happy with Joe Johnson (at 14-15 mil/year)?

I'm with you on JJ.. I like him alot, and as I've stated earlier; I don't think his ego is that big, which imo would make him a nice fit with another high-profiled player - maybe Bosh if he could be lured here.

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3/9/2010  12:49 PM
Marv - Josh Smith is nowhere near the maturity or intelligence of Satch Sanders. Not in the same are code or state. I despised the Celtics and alternately rooted for Chamberlain and Lucious Jackson (from, Pan American)

That sometimes awkward combination of disparate skills of Satch Sanders? If you could squint real tight you might see the young, gangly, but effective, Phil Jackson.

He has rings.

Josh Smith is still learning how to channel his unique skill set in a team context. The Hawks rotation is dominated by forwards and led by a head coach who does not impress me as an innovator capable of devising a system they can flourish under. Smith may not have an NBA precedent, but we both know he is stuck on a treadmill.

A lefthanded Larry Nance?

Nah. Nance was too good.

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Marv
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3/9/2010  12:59 PM
yeah, i don't get to see him that often and i assume you see him play a lot. he did seem poised to blow up a few years ago and instead has just produced at about that same level for several years now. but having just watched him in person last night i have to say he's an impressive presence on the court who must be a real tease to atlanta fans because he looks like he’s about to turn a corner that he never ends up turning.
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3/9/2010  1:58 PM
Treadmill

Marv - you have just started a thread for other basketball PhDs.

Is it the coaching system or is it the player, who must ultimately assume responsibility for maximizing individual assets?

I was reading about how New Orleans Saints offensive players may be difficult to measure in value... because the sum of their parts may be distorted by playing in a perfectly conceived system that produces unusually high stats. No matter what is said about them, they won the trophy, nothing else matters.

meanwhile, back in Atlanta...

You look at Josh Smith, Al Horford and Marvin Williams for that matter, or even Joe Johnson to a certain extent.. and wonder how can these guys lose THREE times to the Knicks?

What is their playing signature? The Hawks are unpredictable, inconsistent, immature and leaderless. But they can catch fire. Nah, I doubt it. The Hawks are actually LESS than the sum of their parts.

meanwhile, back in The Garden...

You flip it, and look at the Knicks, and wonder, how can these guys lose to the freakin' Nets by 20, miss EVERY three they attempt... and turn around less than a week later look like they actually enjoy running the floor?

Mike D'Antoni struggled with Donnie Walsh changing the groceries. In this post-audition, pre win-now season, he has vacillated between SSOL and Mike Fratello snail ball. Now that the season is over, guys playing for 2010-11 jobs are simply left to play with passion. Some rare nights it will cohere and take on a positive personality.

Most others it will fall on its collective face, due to lack bonding (which takes years) and lack of trust (which takes at least 5 west coast swings).

The challenge for the Knicks is to stabilize a dependable core of four men D'Antoni can trust to produce on a relative-consistent basis every night, especially on the road. 21 assists. shoot 47 per cent from the field. Box out. Talk on defense until your throat hurts.

The other three will follow.

That's seven.

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3/9/2010  5:04 PM
If the Knicks sign Johnson to $15 million, I'll help Marv kill himself.
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Marv
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3/9/2010  5:10 PM
Pharzeone wrote:If the Knicks sign Johnson to $15 million, I'll help Marv kill himself.

thanks bro. i knew i could count on you.

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3/9/2010  5:16 PM
Marv wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:If the Knicks sign Johnson to $15 million, I'll help Marv kill himself.

thanks bro. i knew i could count on you.

no prob. Wat... I got your back.

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3/11/2010  6:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2010  6:53 PM
Knicks set club mark for futility
NY Post (Marc Berman)

Knicks set franchise losing record against Spurs
NY Daily News (Frank Isola)

Knicks set franchise losing record against Spurs
Newsday


Since the Knicks are entering the free agent market with cash to spend, can we cut or trade all of the current beat writers who do nothing but plagiarize each others headlines on a daily basis?

Start Fresh

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3/11/2010  8:45 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/11/2010  8:46 PM
fishmike wrote:
SupremeCommander wrote:am I the only one who'd be happy with Joe Johnson (at 14-15 mil/year)?

I'm a big fan of his. The guy can play. He gets killed around here. I have never heard of a 4 time all star who is 28 years old (29?) being regarded as the worst case scenario.

If thats who the Knicks end up with I hope it works, I really do. We havent seen good guard play since Allan Houston and Sprewell were here.

I also think if he was here it would allow Toney Douglas to play at the PG for 30+ minutes a night. A hardnosed tough as nails defender who can really score. He isnt able or ready to run an offense but the guy is a good BB player. I think with JJ (and Lee) as facilitators MDA would be more comfortable playing Douglas. That would also leave us with $10mm or so to sign a big. I like the idea of rolling the dice on Tyrus Thomas. His upside is fantastic. Not sure MDA could coach him.

People around here prob think its junk but I would feel pretty good about this lineup next year:
pg Douglas
sg JJ
sf Gallo
pf Lee
c Tyrus
bench: Chandler, Walker, Giddens

I think thats a solid group and the right kind of group for this coach.

The other option is using cap space to get Collison from NO

If we have some reason (which I doubt we have) to get Smuth Joe, it is not Duglas.
Tony is not Mardy Collins but he need to get somewher some brain implant.
We had and have so many retards on the team lately so he looks OK, but man... you look at his game and... how stupping player can be!!!

"There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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