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D'antoni: "I haven't had a good year"
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crzymdups
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3/3/2010  5:03 PM
Pharzeone wrote:
The point is he got his man. The guy he wanted to run his offense. Now if that doesn't work out then that is on the coach and the player.

he got his man within some SERIOUS constraints. he got a man he WANTED to take a look at. and he did. and duhon was decent at times, but could never maintain any consistency.

if they use their cap room this summer and still retain duhon, then you have a point. if not you just seem really silly. duhon's nickname should have been "stop-gap." he was a short-term solution, not part of the plan.

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3/3/2010  5:05 PM    LAST EDITED: 3/3/2010  5:05 PM
Cosmic wrote:
crzymdups wrote:i just hope this season makes d'antoni realize they need some size. i'm not optimistic it will though.

Mike doesn't do half court.

Most "size" plays half court.


The perfect center for Mike would be Mehmet Okur. Or Bargnani. I guess Bosh could work as well.

But those guys don't play "size" they play like shooters.

I think Bosh would work pretty well.

I'm guessing Donnie and Mike's IDEAL (not saying it is likely) for the off-season would be something like:

Sergio/Toney
Gallo/Bill Walker
Bron
Wilson
Bosh

what their plan B might be, i have no earthly idea.

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Pharzeone
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3/3/2010  5:08 PM
crzymdups wrote:
Pharzeone wrote:
The point is he got his man. The guy he wanted to run his offense. Now if that doesn't work out then that is on the coach and the player.

he got his man within some SERIOUS constraints. he got a man he WANTED to take a look at. and he did. and duhon was decent at times, but could never maintain any consistency.

if they use their cap room this summer and still retain duhon, then you have a point. if not you just seem really silly. duhon's nickname should have been "stop-gap." he was a short-term solution, not part of the plan.

?? What does this have to do with a stop-gap? Are we going after a point guard this summer? Did we go after one last summer? He got the guy he wanted. The only time stop-gap was used was as a defense of the move to give Duhon a $12 million contract. That doesn't mean that D'Antoni did not get the guy he wanted. It didn't work out. That is on him and the player which was my point about Fish's post.

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3/3/2010  5:17 PM
Even an article full of excuses for D'Antoni still ends up painting him in a bad light. D'Antoni did have point guard options that he chose to pass up. Jennings, AI, J-Will, and Tinsley all were available to the Knicks. D'Antoni doesn't just want a point guard he wants a guy with enough character and professionalism to be the team leader in the locker room, on the court, and to be the communicator that he struggles to be. Professionalism and compliance seem to be more of a priority than talent to play for him.
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3/3/2010  5:27 PM
Funny, we burn Phil Jax as not being so great cuz he has great players (like you win otherwise) and then fry a string of great coaches (including Larry who won without great players!)cuz they got crap to coach.

I can't imagine any coach doing all that great with our roster. Maybe December he showed us what he could do when it all comes together. larry had a good month also. He is still a pretty good coach!

Funny, Larry is the right coach for this squad. He is a teacher.

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3/3/2010  5:32 PM
Nalod wrote:Funny, we burn Phil Jax as not being so great cuz he has great players (like you win otherwise) and then fry a string of great coaches (including Larry who won without great players!)cuz they got crap to coach.

I can't imagine any coach doing all that great with our roster. Maybe December he showed us what he could do when it all comes together. larry had a good month also. He is still a pretty good coach!

Funny, Larry is the right coach for this squad. He is a teacher.

i think the collective bball intelligence of the knicks fan base has a gravitational pull that draws on coaching ability. when a coach enters new york for any prolonged period of time, the sheer mass of basketball geniuses in NY creates such a pull that no matter what, that coach's basketball intellect is drawn out of his brain and held in the cosmos until he is forced to leave the knicks. he then recovers all of his coaching ability and picks up right where he left off. true science.

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3/3/2010  5:50 PM
Nalod wrote:Funny, we burn Phil Jax as not being so great cuz he has great players (like you win otherwise) and then fry a string of great coaches (including Larry who won without great players!)cuz they got crap to coach.

I can't imagine any coach doing all that great with our roster. Maybe December he showed us what he could do when it all comes together. larry had a good month also. He is still a pretty good coach!

Funny, Larry is the right coach for this squad. He is a teacher.


The only 'great'coaches we had were Lenny and Brown. Brown spent his year in NY trying to sabotage Isiah. His departure had nothing to do with fans. Lenny was forced out by Isiah. If you remember Isiah fired all of Lenny's assistants near the end. These guys were not chased out by the fans.
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3/3/2010  5:52 PM
Here is the thing. Brown did not want to coach the team that year. He was too busy trying to fight with Isiah and Marbury. It got petty, he was playing games with alternating starting lineups. Everybody said coach now, forget all the crap. Brown didn't want to do that and was unhappy with his situation. He wanted the talent right away after coming from the Pistons. He wasn't willing to wait til the roster change. Even he admitted that the team had talent. The biggest mistake was Isiah letting go of Wilkens. Don't know why but Dolan had issues with Wilkens laid back personality.

You could never sell me on MDA because I was killing him while he was still in Phoenix. My thoughts were that with such a talented team he will not win a championship because he doesn't bring a defensive mind to the game where it is so crucial in the playoffs. His style consist of run and gun and be damn about everything else. This holds to be true at all his stops in the NBA. Getting Lebron, Bosh, Wade or whoever doesn't cure that issue.

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3/3/2010  5:52 PM
CrushAlot wrote:
Nalod wrote:Funny, we burn Phil Jax as not being so great cuz he has great players (like you win otherwise) and then fry a string of great coaches (including Larry who won without great players!)cuz they got crap to coach.

I can't imagine any coach doing all that great with our roster. Maybe December he showed us what he could do when it all comes together. larry had a good month also. He is still a pretty good coach!

Funny, Larry is the right coach for this squad. He is a teacher.


The only 'great'coaches we had were Lenny and Brown. Brown spent his year in NY trying to sabotage Isiah. His departure had nothing to do with fans. Lenny was forced out by Isiah. If you remember Isiah fired all of Lenny's assistants near the end. These guys were not chased out by the fans.

You just beat me to it.

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3/3/2010  6:11 PM
His reaction was to slow down the offense because Duhon couldn't run it as fast as it needs to be played. Slowing it down meant a greater need for defense, so D'Antoni went with a gimmick -- a 2-3 zone. You could say this desperate move worked out in one way: Jared Jeffries' value skyrocketed.

delusional... scary to think what Hahn thinks Fishlips' value was before he got featured by MDA considering what we had to give up to dump his sorry ass.


D'Antoni is ripped by "experts" for such cliche things: not fouling up three, not communicating his every decision with players, for not emphasizing defense. But the real criticism - what sums all of it up - is that D'Antoni coached scared. Worried about losing when the expectations were so low to begin with.

thank you for your "expert" opinion on this... this guy must read our forums.

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