Marv wrote:i'm focusing every bit as much on offense right now. you look at a guy like al. one reason i've loved him this year is that, for all his flaws, he looks to get his ass up to that rim, and either get off a close in shot or get fouled. if gallinari or chandler had that mindset, with their offensive skill sets, size, abilities - that they have both CLEARLY demonstrated they possess, just seldom display - they could both be having much greater impacts on the game.

you would hope that these guys are being told to adjust things in practice... this would be a nice time for the staff to get these guys a mix of when they go to rim vs settling for long range shots. dg had a nice dunk recently doing just that, he needs to do that way more. seems so simple, even a caveman can do it.

King1 wrote:I have been saying this all along. These two players do nothing else to help the team win. Gallinari refuses to rebound and get less than 2.0 assists a game. Chandler despite his athleticism is getting 5.0 rebounds a game and hasnt made a big time shot all year. You can talk about the age but I think Wilson has no feel for the game and Gallinari isnt very tough

just curious, how many games did D Lee help us win over his 1st 2 seasons in the NBA? ur comparing the rebounding prowess of players that aren't known for their rebounding against a guy who is? is that a fair comparison? should we point out how D Lee can't hit a 3 pointer or block a shot to save his life then? how tough was D Lee when he was 21 years old trying to make it in the NBA? i don't remember him getting into anyone's face or taking over a game in crunchtime & hitting game winning shots ever.

King1 wrote:How can Bill Bradley and WIllis Reed be so dumb? How could they say Lee could have been on those championship teams? How can tmac say how much he likes playing with Lee? How can all these HOF respect his game but new york fans cant. All all these people morons anbd new York fans and Jeff Van gundy really know what is going on.

We are on pace to win 27 games with DLee having a breakout year..Do you really wonder why fans aren't sharing the love...really?..

King1 wrote:is it really Lee fault he has played with a drunk point guard, and the coaches have played guys out of position all year? At least he will compete something Wilsona and Gallo fails to do every night. We had Gallo guarding Rondo the other night do you really think these coaches are trying to win. Pharezone fair enough on BB willis and tmac now explain Kobe, duncan, and Shaq guess they wanted to say something nice also

why does any of the "saying nice" stuff matter? while folks on this board may say stuff about lee, most i would think dont honestly dislike the guy. who can really complain about his offensive game at this point? folks just want to see the guy put the same effort into his d as he seems to for off. you are complaining about lee not being treated fairly in a thread questioning dg's drive...

there are plenty of posters who think wc has peaked or isnt very good. what can you do? wc/dg i am willing to wait on as they have a lot less service time than lee does. no arg from me with the coaching... they should be helping the young guys and they either arent doing a good job, or the young guys arent able to take lessons learned and apply them.

playa2 wrote:

King1 wrote:How can Bill Bradley and WIllis Reed be so dumb? How could they say Lee could have been on those championship teams? How can tmac say how much he likes playing with Lee? How can all these HOF respect his game but new york fans cant. All all these people morons anbd new York fans and Jeff Van gundy really know what is going on.

King, too many people are trying to be politically correct about the knicks. This is basketball, people need to call this situation with the knicks for what it really is.

Remember Lee got showed up by Stephen Curry, he got his ish pushed in by the mighty fairy?...That really was the highlight of Lee's season

King1 wrote:is it really Lee fault he has played with a drunk point guard, and the coaches have played guys out of position all year? At least he will compete something Wilsona and Gallo fails to do every night. We had Gallo guarding Rondo the other night do you really think these coaches are trying to win. Pharezone fair enough on BB willis and tmac now explain Kobe, duncan, and Shaq guess they wanted to say something nice also

As a big fan of DLee, you should be alarmed he has no effect on the Knicks winning...

King1 wrote:is it really Lee fault he has played with a drunk point guard, and the coaches have played guys out of position all year? At least he will compete something Wilsona and Gallo fails to do every night. We had Gallo guarding Rondo the other night do you really think these coaches are trying to win. Pharezone fair enough on BB willis and tmac now explain Kobe, duncan, and Shaq guess they wanted to say something nice also

how does this change the fact that his defense is **** in the post? david lee is a doorman in the paint. how do u bring up rebounding in comparison to a PF/C to a SG/SF??? makes no sense whatsoever.

King1 wrote:I have been saying this all along. These two players do nothing else to help the team win. Gallinari refuses to rebound and get less than 2.0 assists a game. Chandler despite his athleticism is getting 5.0 rebounds a game and hasnt made a big time shot all year. You can talk about the age but I think Wilson has no feel for the game and Gallinari isnt very tough

Agreed.

I mean, they were nice bright spots on a crappy team, but that's just it: Bright spots on a crappy team.

And the two of them play some pretty crappy ball way too often.

They're both also inconsistent with it. Inconsistency kills teams. It's as bad as a player being in and out of lineups due to injuries. The effect is the same.

These two need to work on their games this offseason and come back strong next year. If they don't or they look the same next year then you can pretty much assume what you see is what they are.