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2/26/2010  4:08 PM
Scott Skiles is a perfect example. Walsh should have done his homework and got us Jennings but that team isn't all that talented. Bogut is nice player but there are right there in the playoff picture. Why???
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2/26/2010  4:30 PM
You know what? I just realized who MDA is (the tall one, not the midget):

I mean that captures it, no? All nice and polished. Cozy- a players coach.

I always hated the methodical task masters we've always had - but the guy we need is:
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2/26/2010  4:59 PM
Another anti-MDA thread? Don't worry Nix, I got this covered for you buddy. Shame on you guys. This man is a genius! A genius I tell you!

You just don't understand he needs at least 2 MVP candidates and an all-star on his roster before we can fairly judge his performance. It's just not fair. I mean every good team has those pieces. So we have to just wait.

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2/26/2010  4:59 PM
Yea I called him danphoney because I never believed in him as a coach or his system, it's more suited to Euro ball not NBA basketball.
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2/26/2010  5:14 PM
playa2 wrote:Yea I called him danphoney because I never believed in him as a coach or his system, it's more suited to Euro ball not NBA basketball.

NY media will turn up the heat on him next year. The Garden doesnt have too many hidin spots...

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2/26/2010  5:33 PM
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eViL wrote:HAHA!! If you had posted that we were going to miss Don Chaney when Isiah fired him, you would have been laughed off the board. But I understand the sentiment.

franco12 wrote:I don't think we've lost on talent. But, where I wonder about MDA is from last season to this, before the trade deadline, he had the same squad as last year, and having guys together from the start of the year, all in the same system - he should have had a better record than he did. Garbage players and all.

Also- while we're gaining cap room, I'd argue we gained talent, especially with the mcgrady trade- or at least players that should fit MDA's system better.

As far as my talent loss point goes, I think Zach and Craw are both more talented than anyone on our team outside of McGrady (if healthy); and, with respect to T-Mac, he is a very new addition so it is somewhat unfair to include him in the talent debate. With the addition of House and T-Mac our offense has looked much better in two of the last three games.

This season is definitely not a great showing on MDA's part. However, it is also important to grade him against the realistic expectations for the team. It's not like we were pegged for 41 wins. Most people had us in the 30-35 range.


dude - blobman had the team at 50 wins with gallo getting 32/11/15, with ten dimes and a few assists as well...

Haven't heard from Blobman lately where is he ?

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2/26/2010  6:30 PM
iSergio wrote:I'll go record and say if we don't sign LeBron James or Dwyane Wade, I want Mike D'Antoni gone. I don't like his system. There is no discipline, no defense and no pride. I also cannot stand D'Antoni laughing and cracking jokes after losing by 50.

i agree... i wanted to like this guy coming in cuz he had an impressive resume, but since he's been here he's done a horrible job of coaching IMHO... no structure, just get the ball & shoot it... no commitment to developing young guys... no sense that these guys are competing out on the floor every night... they still look like the same gutless bunch of players we saw playing under Isiah... you would think a great coach like MDA would be able to get guys to at least approach the game with a different mindset, but that hasn't happened... most of them are playing selfish basketball trying to pad their stats & playing no defense, & the only players playing unselfishly that are worth holding onto are the ones who should be getting featured in the offense but are currently taking back seats to the other veterans (Gallo, Wilson)... the unnecessary drama being played out in the media w/the players & his nonsensical rotations along w/his obnoxious arrogance & primadonna willingness to throw his own players under the bus instead of taking accountability for his own mistakes have seriously turned me off to this guy.

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2/26/2010  6:36 PM
Moonangie wrote:
eViL wrote:With the addition of House and T-Mac our offense has looked much better in two of the last three games. This season is definitely not a great showing on MDA's part. However, it is also important to grade him against the realistic expectations for the team. It's not like we were pegged for 41 wins. Most people had us in the 30-35 range.

Don't forget Sergio. He is a HUGE improvement over Duhon, for energy alone, but also for vision and desire to play. Duhon was a big liability in most games.

we scored 67 points in the second game they were here... i have no idea who u can say the offense has looked much better w/these guys... nothing has improved... we're still losing games at an alarming clip, the offense looks disjointed & they still play no defense... the trade didn't improve this team at all... the only thing that's changed is we have a marquee broken down rental player to draw fans to the games & provide a little different look on the floor.

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2/26/2010  7:47 PM
I think he has been a problem. I think it started with his handling of Marbury and has continued. He is very flawed as a coach. He does not coach defense, struggles with in game coaching (especially the final two minutes), he plays a non traditional line up/small, he has favorite players that he is loyal despite lack of talent/production and other talented guys that he cannot communicate with. He has devalued many assets and created lots of drama with some of them in the process including Hill, Marbury, Hughes, Nate, and Darko. Some of the drama has been created by his inability or unwillingness to communicate with guys that might need more direction from their coach. I think he has been blessed by the fact that he came into such a dysfunctional situation that he was given a free pass for a period of time. He also is very lucky to have Walsh backing him. I think this year he has really done a bad job. His team that he had the previous season came out of camp and went 1-9. He also did not give the rookies any minutes despite his team losing at such a high rate. I don't think he is a good coach and he certainly didn't make the Knicks better. I would like to see him gone. I fear that if the team does well in the free agent market this summer he may again get lucky by having a group of players in place who can win enough despite his inept coaching and ineffective training camp.
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2/26/2010  9:23 PM
I cant stand MDA..and whats going to suck is that if the Knicks bring in top talent next year, and their successful, he's going to get all the credit. smh
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2/26/2010  9:26 PM
Swishfm3 wrote:I cant stand MDA..and whats going to suck is that if the Knicks bring in top talent next year, and their successful, he's going to get all the credit. smh

he's a genius when he's coaching a future HOFer & 2 Allstars & just tells them to go out & play their games & shoot when they get the ball... not so much when he's coaching a team of guys who actually need to be coached to be successful.

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2/26/2010  9:38 PM
ITs so easy to hate when things are not going well isn't it.

Try winning with an idiot Sirvant (Nate) and a nickel beer slut (Duhan) as your points. YOur starting Center is too fat to stay on the court and your back up is a beligerant diva who gave up after 8 games.

Sure, Run this guy out like the last 5 coaches and its gonna be better every time.

Gee what happend this season? Well, its about salary cap. If the bench mark of success is you acomplish your goals then im sure by that measurement the team succeeded.
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2/26/2010  9:43 PM
i don't care how much of a shill you've become over MDA, not everyone has to agree with his methods... creating unnecessary drama & his nonsensical roster rotations this year are inexplicable & not a good reflection on the job he's done as the coach since he's been here.
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2/26/2010  10:06 PM
Man, now it is Duhon to take the blame. Yet when it was suggested last by some that Duhon was being vastly overrated by this coach, everyone was singing his praise. Now it's just Pringles' Burden.
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2/26/2010  10:26 PM
TMS wrote:i don't care how much of a shill you've become over MDA, not everyone has to agree with his methods... creating unnecessary drama & his nonsensical roster rotations this year are inexplicable & not a good reflection on the job he's done as the coach since he's been here.

I agree that MDA hasn't done a great job this season, but I think some on this board have gone a bit too far in discrediting him for not doing more with this weak roster.
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2/26/2010  10:30 PM
Uptown wrote:
TMS wrote:i don't care how much of a shill you've become over MDA, not everyone has to agree with his methods... creating unnecessary drama & his nonsensical roster rotations this year are inexplicable & not a good reflection on the job he's done as the coach since he's been here.

I agree that MDA hasn't done a great job this season, but I think some on this board have gone a bit too far in discrediting him for not doing more with this weak roster.

i agree w/that... people post w/agendas sometimes, but i think for the most part the criticisms have been fair

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Uptown wrote:
TMS wrote:i don't care how much of a shill you've become over MDA, not everyone has to agree with his methods... creating unnecessary drama & his nonsensical roster rotations this year are inexplicable & not a good reflection on the job he's done as the coach since he's been here.

I agree that MDA hasn't done a great job this season, but I think some on this board have gone a bit too far in discrediting him for not doing more with this weak roster.


Maybe when he wasn't playing the rookies he should have stopped talking about trying to make the playoffs. That was pretty much a lost cause when his team came out of his training camp and went 1-9.
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2/26/2010  10:31 PM
"I'm judged if we win or lose," D'Antoni added. "There is nothing else. You win enough, you stay, you lose enough, you're gone."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_would_play_satan_but_not_o93nWjWTVPdKgMP0fjz7vM#ixzz0ghgPXTBL

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2/26/2010  10:38 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/26/2010  10:38 PM
TMS wrote:
"I'm judged if we win or lose," D'Antoni added. "There is nothing else. You win enough, you stay, you lose enough, you're gone."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_would_play_satan_but_not_o93nWjWTVPdKgMP0fjz7vM#ixzz0ghgPXTBL

I think thats the case for most, if not all coaches. Which is why I kept saying that coaches coach to win games not to try and break in rooks when the playoffs are still within reach. I wasn't suprised not see Jordan Hill during the months of november-january because the coach went with experience and players he could trust. Did I want to see more of Hill and Douglas? Absolutely. But at the same time, if anyone looked at it from a coaches perspective, and you realize, as MDA said, "coaches are fired for losses" especially by an owner like Dolan, I understood why he did what he did. He wanted to win.
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2/26/2010  10:45 PM
TMS wrote:
"I'm judged if we win or lose," D'Antoni added. "There is nothing else. You win enough, you stay, you lose enough, you're gone."

Read more: http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/antoni_would_play_satan_but_not_o93nWjWTVPdKgMP0fjz7vM#ixzz0ghgPXTBL

He is winning at a rate of 35% this year and is 52-87 for his Knicks career. The amazing thing about the 35% rate is that it was while he had his team from last year and was playing his vets over the rookies in his chase for the playoffs.
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