JrZyHuStLa wrote:

TMS wrote:it does raise an eyebrow but he was projected as a top 4 pick on every draft board leading up to the draft... obviously there has to be something about this guy that intrigues the NBA scouts... yeah, he can end up being the next Desegana Diop, but w/the right development he can also be like Jermaine O'Neal & bust out after a few years of building up his game & when he's finally given a real chance to show what he can do.

Him being sent to the D-league indicates he went too high in the draft, especially since Memphis' only legit 7 footer is Marc Gasol. It's a little disappointing how Thabeet couldn't back up Gasol over guys like Hunter and Haddadi.

i agree he went too high in the draft especially when they could have had Tyreke Evans instead, but again the argument that they already had OJ Mayo & Mike Conley in place as their backcourt of the future comes into play there... i know teams have fugged themselves drafting on need over talent in the past, & who knows maybe that happened here too w/the Thabeet selection (& Jordan Hill selection), but u can't say these guys are busts just yet... not saying u are saying this in particular but there are plenty of guys who wanna rush to these judgements way early on prospects & they end up being good players in the NBA... our own Gallo was judged as a bust after not even hitting the NBA floor last year & he's proven to be a good young player once he got healthy & got regular burn in the rotation.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

TMS wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483

The Grizzlies, according to NBA front-office sources, offered Thabeet and second-year guard O.J. Mayo to the Golden State Warriors for Warriors guard Monta Ellis before the Feb. 18 trade deadline but were turned down.

Don Nelson is an idiot for turning down that trade IMHO.

Yeah, I couldn't believe that the Warriors didn't take that deal. I don't think Nellie is a fan of OJ though.

Monta Ellis puts fans in the seats. OJ Mayo not so much. Ellis is flashier as well.

Ellis is also a poor defender.

Flash and a few fannies in the seats do not make a team a contender for a title.

I don't think GS will ever go too far with Ellis and Curry playing 70-80 minutes in the backcourt, and I think that Curry will end up being the better player of the two.

A winning team will make GS fans forget about Ellis, anyway.

GS wouldn't have gotten too far if Nelson made that trade either.

You get better size in the backcourt with Mayo, and a big man who may develop in the something, instead of a dynamic offensive player who pretty much duplicates what Curry can do, and has a significant contract obligation well into the future.

Paladin55 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

TMS wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483

The Grizzlies, according to NBA front-office sources, offered Thabeet and second-year guard O.J. Mayo to the Golden State Warriors for Warriors guard Monta Ellis before the Feb. 18 trade deadline but were turned down.

Don Nelson is an idiot for turning down that trade IMHO.

Yeah, I couldn't believe that the Warriors didn't take that deal. I don't think Nellie is a fan of OJ though.

Monta Ellis puts fans in the seats. OJ Mayo not so much. Ellis is flashier as well.

Ellis is also a poor defender.

Flash and a few fannies in the seats do not make a team a contender for a title.

I don't think GS will ever go too far with Ellis and Curry playing 70-80 minutes in the backcourt, and I think that Curry will end up being the better player of the two.

A winning team will make GS fans forget about Ellis, anyway.

GS wouldn't have gotten too far if Nelson made that trade either.

You make the trade with the future in mind

You get better size in the backcourt with Mayo, and a big man who may develop in the something, instead of a dynamic offensive player who pretty much duplicates what Curry can do, and has a significant contract obligation well into the future.

Mayo has an inch over Ellis. I don't really call that adding size. And Ellis is just 2 years older, no big deal.

I'm sorry. But I'm not trading a 25, 5, and 4 guys for Mayo.

I get the point but Thabeet should have been in a better position to contribute considering his experience.

TMS wrote:if u don't like the JO comparison, u can apply Zach Randolph... he came out a fully developed college star from Michigan State, a ready made starter in the NBA, & yet it still took him 114 NBA games & 2 seasons before he ever got a real shot & showed anything at this level.

No he didnt--he avg 20 min off the bench as a freshmen and came into the league.

Paladin55 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:

AnubisADL wrote:

Pharzeone wrote:

TMS wrote:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4946483

The Grizzlies, according to NBA front-office sources, offered Thabeet and second-year guard O.J. Mayo to the Golden State Warriors for Warriors guard Monta Ellis before the Feb. 18 trade deadline but were turned down.

Don Nelson is an idiot for turning down that trade IMHO.

Yeah, I couldn't believe that the Warriors didn't take that deal. I don't think Nellie is a fan of OJ though.

Monta Ellis puts fans in the seats. OJ Mayo not so much. Ellis is flashier as well.

Ellis is also a poor defender.

Flash and a few fannies in the seats do not make a team a contender for a title.

I don't think GS will ever go too far with Ellis and Curry playing 70-80 minutes in the backcourt, and I think that Curry will end up being the better player of the two.

A winning team will make GS fans forget about Ellis, anyway.

GS wouldn't have gotten too far if Nelson made that trade either.

You make the trade with the future in mind

You get better size in the backcourt with Mayo, and a big man who may develop in the something, instead of a dynamic offensive player who pretty much duplicates what Curry can do, and has a significant contract obligation well into the future.

Mayo has an inch over Ellis. I don't really call that adding size. And Ellis is just 2 years older, no big deal.

I'm sorry. But I'm not trading a 25, 5, and 4 guys for Mayo.

The "4" means turnovers/game, right?

Mayo looks bigger and plays bigger. Check out their pre-Draft specs at DraftExpress. Mayo is no monster at SG, but Ellis is simply not able to play the kind of D you need to play at the position. Wingspan, weight, vertical numbers and even quickness all favor Mayo, and that was before Ellis' injuries.

The problem is not Ellis, anyway, it is the fact that GS has Ellis and Curry in the same backcourt. Trading Ellis away will be addition through subtraction. It will be easier for Curry to flourish.

Maybe GS is looking at a better trade in the offseason.

Sure, he averages 4 turnovers a game, I'll give you that. But his ridiculous game logs far outweigh that blemish.

Why would I check out their pre-draft specs ? We're not talking about John Wall here. These are grown men playing in the NBA. What people had to say about their pre-draft specs is the last source I would go to when analyzing these guys. That's like saying "check out nbadraft.net if you want to see Lebron's strengths and weaknesses." Its pointless. Why not base decisions off of what you see as them being professionals ?

TMS wrote:it does raise an eyebrow but he was projected as a top 4 pick on every draft board leading up to the draft... obviously there has to be something about this guy that intrigues the NBA scouts... yeah, he can end up being the next Desegana Diop, but w/the right development he can also be like Jermaine O'Neal & bust out after a few years of building up his game & when he's finally given a real chance to show what he can do.

he could be a bust, who knows... he could also turn out to be a good NBA player... it's all up to him, but u can't make these projections based on such a limited sample, that's the only point i'm trying to make.

Interesting post. Thabeet is all potential right now. However, with the development of Gasol, there is no way for him to get real minutes, and there may not be an opportunity in the future if Memphis decides to keep Gasol.

oohah

Does this guy--in his movements--forget that you have ever seen him play--look anything like a bust? Or maybe a 7-3 player who has skills that need continued development step by step the way Jordan Hill should've been given? Jordan Hill didnt go down to the D league because of *PR* but he should've been given a 5-10 game stretch to let him go a bit.

BRIGGS wrote:

Does this guy--in his movements--forget that you have ever seen him play--look anything like a bust? Or maybe a 7-3 player who has skills that need continued development step by step the way Jordan Hill should've been given? Jordan Hill didnt go down to the D league because of *PR* but he should've been given a 5-10 game stretch to let him go a bit.

Beating on D-League scrubs means little. He is going against guys like Chris Hunter, who cant even get burn on an NBA team.