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2/24/2010  2:39 PM
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If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.

I am basing it off what I see. What are you talking about, selling points? I did not make the pick, I have nothing vested in it, other than i think the kid will be a good player.

As for needing to be a leader in a category in order to prove BB IQ, I would disagree with that too. We do not know what is said in the locker room. What the coach expects him to do. Watching his clips from ITaly, he handler the ball much more, came off screens and posted up too. It seems as though if he is not doing it here, it is because the coach does not want him too. It looks he is deferring to his teammates. I personally would prefer him not to but as others have said, he looks tired and may have hit a wall. His shot is flat as compated to earlier in the year.

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2/24/2010  2:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  2:50 PM
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GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.

Bingo. I dont think he is a bust but I think he was a little over hyped. Ray Allen was muscling Gallo last night. Old ass 6' 5" Ray Allen.

Gallinari gets mad and wants to force jumpers not take the ball inside.

so is it fair to say, other young players like brandon jennings has little to no IQ.. because his shooting % dropped like 20 percentage points, yet he still jacks that ugly jumper up? I mean, that would be a fair analysis, right?

For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team.

that doesn't always manifest itself immediately.... how can he be a top assist guy or scorer on a team where he is a 4th option... for instance, I think Grant hill is a HIGH IQ player. Tell me.. what does he lead the suns in? And when does scoring dictate IQ? How about the fact that when gallo is off the floor.. the knicks look worse.... that should tell you more than any stat could...


Ray Allen was muscling Gallo last night. Old ass 6' 5" Ray Allen.

didn't ray allen pick up two fouls trying to guard him in the post? but hey, lets play your game. .I guess wilson chandler is dumb as ricks, because he let old ass ray ray throw his shot into the first row..... go figure.. righ? smh

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2/24/2010  2:57 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  2:58 PM
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Pharzeone wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.

Bingo. I dont think he is a bust but I think he was a little over hyped. Ray Allen was muscling Gallo last night. Old ass 6' 5" Ray Allen.

Gallinari gets mad and wants to force jumpers not take the ball inside.

so is it fair to say, other young players like brandon jennings has little to no IQ.. because his shooting % dropped like 20 percentage points, yet he still jacks that ugly jumper up? I mean, that would be a fair analysis, right?

For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team.

that doesn't always manifest itself immediately.... how can he be a top assist guy or scorer on a team where he is a 4th option... for instance, I think Grant hill is a HIGH IQ player. Tell me.. what does he lead the suns in? And when does scoring dictate IQ? How about the fact that when gallo is off the floor.. the knicks look worse.... that should tell you more than any stat could...


Ray Allen was muscling Gallo last night. Old ass 6' 5" Ray Allen.

didn't ray allen pick up two fouls trying to guard him in the post? but hey, lets play your game. .I guess wilson chandler is dumb as ricks, because he let old ass ray ray throw his shot into the first row..... go figure.. righ? smh

Jennings was thought to be dum as rocks by many posters around the draft. His shot selection has improved. He misses shots closer to the rim now. I'd also like to mention Gallo was considered a shooter in the draft while Jennings was considered a brick mason.

Gallinari needs to stop hanging around the 3 point line if he has all this versatility then he would be scoring in other ways.

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2/24/2010  3:04 PM
Feeling the hate...

The Knicks have a good young player and he is getting chewed up because ???? I am not sure, but if he was on another team, we'd be dying for the Knicks to get him.

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2/24/2010  3:09 PM
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Pharzeone wrote:
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Gallo needs a week off. He looks tired. But he still has his game smarts and his 1 v 1 D has been very good in most cases. He was playing Rondo most of the time he was in last night. I created a thread about Gallo playing C for the rest of the season. Although he is small, I think he would do a decent job defending and offensivley, he would then be going against a 4 or 5 not a 3.

As for plays being called for him, I am not sure what is going on. I would think MDA would want to make Gallo shine as much as possible. The better Gallo looks, the more likely a star is to come this summer.

Up until the deals last week, Gallo had the highest BB IQ on the team. Now I think its T-MAC and maybe SROD above him but no one else.

If his BB IQ was as high as you proclaim he would be noticeable in a certain stat area. For example, he would he either be a top scorer or a top assist guy on this team. He is neither. His BB IQ seems to be average and it was one of the exaggerated parts about his game. Now is not the time to keep quoting selling points on the pick but to actually develop his game.


Let's not get carried away dissing the guys game, cuz he actually does know the game and he's displayed more in the past than he's showing right now, but that doesn't just wipe away how well he's played before this down period. It's really hard to know if this is just some adjustment thing or something to be concerned with physically.

Let's just remember that he's already shown that he can play the game and just like Chan has gone thru his ups and downs, young players can sometimes do that. i wouldn't be overly concerned cuz his real development is gonna come in the off season where most guys actually get to work on their weaknesses, like Lee has every year. We'll see how he comes back next year and get a better sense of who his is as he moves forward.

Where am I dissing is his game? My point is that instead of being constructive about his development, posters are still relying on selling points that have been exaggerated for draft purposes. Lee and Chandler actually have an excuse for their development based on draft positions so one understands. I am past that point and am just concern about his development and not this stuff about high BB IQ, great passing ability, etc. etc. That works before actual games are played. You don't just lose IQ with playing time, if anything you should be getting better. I'm not buying the physical part at all because then player can come up with that as excuse for a bad performance. If he wants to improve, he better do the same as Chandler, Jeffries and Lee and get with those assistants to work on his game because his coach is not that interested. Just look at MDA quotes about the situation.

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2/24/2010  3:12 PM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:Feeling the hate...

The Knicks have a good young player and he is getting chewed up because ???? I am not sure, but if he was on another team, we'd be dying for the Knicks to get him.

we would be cursing walsh for not chosing him... typical knick fan behavior..

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2/24/2010  3:20 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/24/2010  3:29 PM
I have been watching gallo for awhile now and thought he would improve as the season went on. To my surprise he seems disinterested unless he gets a dunk or a layup. Danphoney said Gallup is the best shooter he has ever seen, so when we need a sure shot bucket why doesn't he call a play for him ?

I was very impressed of the video's I saw of him, but maybe he's living the life while in NY as a 21 yr old ? Hitting the rookie wall happens to mostly all rookies, but what ever they specialize in we should still see a glimpse of it.

Pro supporters will say wait till next yr, injuries are taking a toll , or he's just hit the wall. He participated in the 3 pt shoot out and rookie soph game so how hurt was he...he guaranteed he would win the 3 pt shootout

Skeptics will say he was overrated from the start, some say he's soft as blue cheese once he got to experience all the teams& players in the association and is afraid to mix it up down low even at at 6"10.

So the jury is out on him, lets hope he can pick it up a little these last 20 some odd games. We can't afford another lottery pick failure can we ????

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2/24/2010  3:25 PM
Check out his stats at 82games.com

http://www.82games.com/0910/09NYK6.HTM

This is how he rates on the team

http://www.82games.com/0910/0910NYK.HTM

Enough said...Danilo is a winning player with winning skills. He is slumping right now for some reason (arm, rookie wall, lack of aggression or coach's philosophy). I contend that he will be fine in the long run and if NY is ever so lucky as to get Lebron James, Gallo will benefit greatly. I also think TMAC and SROD will help him too, once they get use to each other.

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2/24/2010  3:32 PM
playa2 wrote:I have been watching gallo for awhile now and thought he would improve as the season went on. To my surprise he seems disinterested unless he gets a dunk or a layup. Danphoney said Gallup is the best shooter he has ever seen, so when we need a sure shot bucket why doesn't he call a play for him ?Ask the Coach

I was very impressed of the video's I saw of him, but maybe he's living the life while in NY as a 21 yr old ? Hitting the rookie wall happens to mostly all rookies, but what ever they specialize in we should still see a glimpse of it. I think we have

Pro supporters will say wait till next yr, injuries are taking a toll , or he's just hit the wall. He participated in the 3 pt shoot out and rookie soph game so how hurt was he...he guaranteed he would win the 3 pt shootout no excuses, he is out there, he needs to perform

Skeptics will say he was overrated from the start, some say he's soft as blue cheese once he got to experience all the teams& players in the association and is afraid to mix it up down low even at at 6"10. totally disagree. He plays pretty good 1v1 D and is a decent shot blocker. He is often seen tipping the ball to his teammate and getting involved in trying to get the ball

So the jury is out on him, lets hope he can pick it up a little these last 20 some odd games. We can't afford another lottery pick failure can we ????

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2/24/2010  3:47 PM
I think Gallo will start making some noise in the coming games. T-Mac and Sergio was trying to get him the ball in the post and I think this will continue. The Mayor got out of his funk and Gallo will follow.
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2/24/2010  3:59 PM
I dont think Gallinari competes every night. He shows flashes and then disappears. I know he is young but I have a problem with someone 6-11 getting 5 rebounds a game. He is a one trick pony right now and over 35% percent of his games he has 4 rebounds or less which is not playing hard. Our best hope is Danilo being Peja lite.
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2/24/2010  4:24 PM
playa2 wrote:I have been watching gallo for awhile now and thought he would improve as the season went on. To my surprise he seems disinterested unless he gets a dunk or a layup. Danphoney said Gallup is the best shooter he has ever seen, so when we need a sure shot bucket why doesn't he call a play for him ?

I was very impressed of the video's I saw of him, but maybe he's living the life while in NY as a 21 yr old ? Hitting the rookie wall happens to mostly all rookies, but what ever they specialize in we should still see a glimpse of it.

Pro supporters will say wait till next yr, injuries are taking a toll , or he's just hit the wall. He participated in the 3 pt shoot out and rookie soph game so how hurt was he...he guaranteed he would win the 3 pt shootout

Skeptics will say he was overrated from the start, some say he's soft as blue cheese once he got to experience all the teams& players in the association and is afraid to mix it up down low even at at 6"10.

So the jury is out on him, lets hope he can pick it up a little these last 20 some odd games. We can't afford another lottery pick failure can we ????

Playa... I was just thinking the same thing about Jennings. He started amazing but he's gotten worse in just about every catagory. He's averaging like 10ppg in Feb and his averages have plummeted month by month. More hype than substance? Maybe that 160 pound frame isnt suited for the NBA? Even against the Knicks he floated and looked board until the end of the game. Who would you say has regressed more?
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2/24/2010  4:32 PM
Gallo's prob is that he hangs at the three point line...T-Mac is also there and is usually trying to hit the guy heading to the hoop or in the lane...Tough to pass that way...It works it u have an inside out game if a guy like T-Mac has the ball in his hands...The center can kick it back out to the open guy, but that's another offense, and decade...
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2/24/2010  4:45 PM
he's young & deferring to other guys... probably even a little starstruck now playing w/T-Mac who he probably watched & admired for many years growing up & doesn't want to step on his toes... he needs to stop taking a back seat & start playing his game.
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2/24/2010  4:49 PM
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playa2 wrote:I have been watching gallo for awhile now and thought he would improve as the season went on. To my surprise he seems disinterested unless he gets a dunk or a layup. Danphoney said Gallup is the best shooter he has ever seen, so when we need a sure shot bucket why doesn't he call a play for him ?

I was very impressed of the video's I saw of him, but maybe he's living the life while in NY as a 21 yr old ? Hitting the rookie wall happens to mostly all rookies, but what ever they specialize in we should still see a glimpse of it.

Pro supporters will say wait till next yr, injuries are taking a toll , or he's just hit the wall. He participated in the 3 pt shoot out and rookie soph game so how hurt was he...he guaranteed he would win the 3 pt shootout

Skeptics will say he was overrated from the start, some say he's soft as blue cheese once he got to experience all the teams& players in the association and is afraid to mix it up down low even at at 6"10.

So the jury is out on him, lets hope he can pick it up a little these last 20 some odd games. We can't afford another lottery pick failure can we ????

Playa... I was just thinking the same thing about Jennings. He started amazing but he's gotten worse in just about every catagory. He's averaging like 10ppg in Feb and his averages have plummeted month by month. More hype than substance? Maybe that 160 pound frame isnt suited for the NBA? Even against the Knicks he floated and looked board until the end of the game. Who would you say has regressed more?

Why do you compare a lights out shooter to a pass 1st pg ?

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2/24/2010  4:50 PM
Except Jennings isn't a pass first PG.
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2/24/2010  4:54 PM
Why are we comparing the two? According to the thought from the "he is young and he hasn't play 82 games yet" guys. Shouldn't Jennings have more of a legit excuse for his regression. He is younger than Gallo and has played in half as many NBA games.
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2/24/2010  4:55 PM
just wondering if the same knocks go for all players. They are nothing alike but their situations are.

Jennings is regarded around here as one of Walsh's bigest mistakes, but he just as not been good and is getting worse in recent months. Is this a "he will get better next year" scenario or is he just not that good?

Personally I think our players are unfairly scrutinized while guys like Jennings, Randolph, Curry, BJ Mullens and whoever else get a free pass for whatever reason they suck. It gets old.

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2/24/2010  5:02 PM
fishmike wrote:just wondering if the same knocks go for all players. They are nothing alike but their situations are.

Jennings is regarded around here as one of Walsh's bigest mistakes, but he just as not been good and is getting worse in recent months. Is this a "he will get better next year" scenario or is he just not that good?

Personally I think our players are unfairly scrutinized while guys like Jennings, Randolph, Curry, BJ Mullens and whoever else get a free pass for whatever reason they suck. It gets old.

So standing around shooting 3's is more difficult than being a floor genral for an NBA team.

Gallinari played pro ball for all these years while those guys you listed played in highschool and college. I thought pro ball was a step up from college. The players you listed weren't as hyped as Gallo either.

Lets stick to discussing lottery picks and leave Mullens out of this.

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2/24/2010  5:26 PM
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fishmike wrote:just wondering if the same knocks go for all players. They are nothing alike but their situations are.

Jennings is regarded around here as one of Walsh's bigest mistakes, but he just as not been good and is getting worse in recent months. Is this a "he will get better next year" scenario or is he just not that good?

Personally I think our players are unfairly scrutinized while guys like Jennings, Randolph, Curry, BJ Mullens and whoever else get a free pass for whatever reason they suck. It gets old.

So standing around shooting 3's is more difficult than being a floor genral for an NBA team.

Gallinari played pro ball for all these years while those guys you listed played in highschool and college. I thought pro ball was a step up from college. The players you listed weren't as hyped as Gallo either.

Lets stick to discussing lottery picks and leave Mullens out of this.

why? I believe several people here pumped Mullens bigtime. Curry's team sucks. Randolph and his Kate Moss like frame are wearing a boot. Why it that OK but I have to filter through 40 threads a day about Gallo is a bust, has still legs and will always have a bad back?

The point is simple. Our own players are killed and everyone else's are great. But the same guys people around here have fawned over arent doing crap.

except Lopez.. his #s are awesome.

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