and speaking of limitations. every player not named kobe has limitations - he IMO is the only perfect player in the league right now - the guy is just unreal (32 points and a mess of other stats plus the game winner on his first game back from the ankle injury - and ps still broken finger - just unreal). even bron has a few aspects of his game to work on still (mid range game, free throws). to top all that off, the league as a whole has seen a de-emphasis on defense over the last ten years.

knicks fans should be happy lee is here right now.

Cosmic wrote:I don't want to let David Lee go.

But David Lee has to play defense otherwise we can't build with him. It's one thing to be an average or poor defender and something entirely different to be a NOTHING defender who just stands and watches. Doesn't box out because he wants to go for the rebound.

If you watch another Knick game - watch David Lee exclusively on defense. Don't watch the opponent or the ball or the opponent shooting the ball. Just watch Lee the whole time.

You do it long enough you will question keeping him.

did that during the Thunder game. I love the guy but am wondering if there's someone out there who can defend better for that kind of $.

i think to find a player who can do what he does offensively AND defend..that's a near max guy no?

who is there in the league like that? will we have to sacrifice offense for defense?

I think Lee will get around $10m per. If they could sign LBJ, then Lee, SROD and a defensoive C with the other slot, the team would be pretty decent and a contender in the East. Lee needs a C to cover up his defensive mistakes and lack of boxing out. Okafor would be good, so would Chandler, Camby and even Dalembert (1yr @12.2M)

And yes, it means a lot that he was the only one who watched the Legends Night Ceremony. It shows he's the only one who gives a rats ars about this organization, besides T-Mac, who was probably nursing his injuries.

DurzoBlint wrote:

oohah wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:During last nites game Clyde mentioned that David Lee came up to him after the Bucks game and apologized to Clyde and said something to the effect "Im sorry I couldnt do more for us to win on your special night Clyde." And we wanna lets this guy go when he has that much respect??

I am more interested in wins, not moral victories, words, and platitudes.

oohah

Yeah, seeing Al Horford look like a 2nd year shaq and Bogut like Kareem at his best. Lee has to seriously work on his defensive footwork AND he needs to learn how to challenge shots. He has the hops and has show he can do it but, he refused to try to block shots.

Papabear Says

Maybe Lee has an underarms problem. Maybe his deodurant isn't holding up so he is afraid to raise his arms.;

if we sign Lebron or Joe Johnson this summer & they re-sign Lee, then Wilson becomes almost redundant... i might consider trading him for someone like Hasheem Thabeet if the Grizz make him available.

Allanfan20 wrote:Oohah, it doesn't take a genius to realize Lee needs to work on his defense. However, he still deserves to remain a Knick for everything else he has done...

And yes, it means a lot that he was the only one who watched the Legends Night Ceremony. It shows he's the only one who gives a rats ars about this organization, besides T-Mac, who was probably nursing his injuries.

I can't buy into rewarding a player for what he has done. I'm interested in what he will do. If you want to throw a plaque on the wall that says, "David Lee, hard worker and great Knick" to reward what he has done, fine, but I really don't want to sign him, or anyone else, based on the past. We want the Knicks to win games in the future, right?