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Uptown
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2/23/2010 10:21 PM
TMS wrote:Uptown wrote:TMS wrote:Pharzeone wrote:TMS wrote:sebstar wrote:Clearly. Of courese theres been double talk. All GM's do it to appease the fan-base. But Walsh has been consistant about clearing cap space for the summer of 2010. He said that from day 1 that was his number 1 priority and his actions are speaking very loud. |
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TMS
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2/23/2010 10:24 PM
right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do.
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sebstar
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2/23/2010 10:27 PM
TMS wrote:right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do. A number 8 pick has got value. Hill does not. My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets.
--Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
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Uptown
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2/23/2010 10:27 PM LAST EDITED: 2/23/2010 10:30 PM
TMS wrote:right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do. Walsh clearly missed the boat on the Sac-town deal last year. I think it was do or die at the deadline. The window was closing on his 2010 dreams and he was forced to give perhaps a little more than he wanted (2012 draft pick, and Hill) in order to keep the 2010 plan alive. I wasn't happy we included the pick, but Walsh felt compelled to do it. |
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
2/23/2010 10:34 PM
sebstar wrote:TMS wrote:right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do. dude, can u get off the trashing Jordan Hill kick for just a second & consider the fact that if Donnie had been proactive last year about dumping Fishlips' contract that we likely could have gotten it done without having to give up such a heavy price? whatever, call this all speculation on my part, but there were enough rumblings in trade rumors with Fishlips' name involved that there had to be some fire where there was smoke... not once did u ever hear about other teams demanding multiple draft picks to take on his salary... face it, Donnie paid through the nose at the deadline this year because he knew he missed the boat last year & this was his last chance to get something done... last year Donnie played it very conservative thinking we'd be a playoff contender this season with Fishlips & Nate on the roster & he got burned for it bigtime... all that's left to do is hope & pray that we get Lebron this summer. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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oohah
Posts: 26600 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 4/7/2005 Member: #887 |
2/23/2010 10:35 PM
sebstar wrote: That is why I wrote earlier, that Walsh should have just packaged Jeffries with the #8 pick and then he wouldn't have had to trade 1.5 more first rounders to get rid of him. But Walsh blew that pick so bad that it was almost like the Rockets had to take on Hill in order to get the 1.5 picks. oohah Good luck Mike D'Antoni, 'cause you ain't never seen nothing like this before!
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
2/23/2010 10:37 PM
Uptown wrote:TMS wrote:right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do. i agree, he felt compelled to do it... i wish he had been more proactive last season to avoid some of the panic moves he made this year... maybe we could have ended up with some useful assets out of the Nate Robinson trade instead of rental players that are all likely to be renounced to save on the cap, or at the very least not have had to give up so much to dump Jeffries' contract. i don't often kill trades before i know the outcome but this one i just can't push it under the rug & convince myself everything's going to work out just fine... hoping for the best tho. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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sebstar
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2/23/2010 10:42 PM
I cant imagine that Walsh passed up on a Nate/Jeffries for an expiring deal. Considering how much they hate Robinson, and how much of an albatross the Jeffries contract was, I would have to think they would have jumped at such an offer.
I'm thinking Sac asked for more and Walsh balked, figuring he might be able to bring up Jeffries value. Finally, he had to face facts this past deadline. Just me thinking out loud. My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets.
--Royce Da 5'9 + DJ Premier = Hip Hop Utopia
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
2/23/2010 10:48 PM
sebstar wrote:I cant imagine that Walsh passed up on a Nate/Jeffries for an expiring deal. Considering how much they hate Robinson, and how much of an albatross the Jeffries contract was, I would have to think they would have jumped at such an offer. i agee, & i also agree that Donnie may have soured on the deal when asked for more assets... still, i can't imagine any GM being crazy enough to ask for our #8 lottery pick, swap rights & another pick tho at the time... we weren't in panic mode then... everyone knew they had Donnie by the balls at the deadline this year cuz this was his last chance to dump salary before the summer rolled around. After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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Uptown
Posts: 31359 Alba Posts: 3 Joined: 4/1/2008 Member: #1883 |
2/23/2010 10:51 PM
TMS wrote:Uptown wrote:TMS wrote:right, i don't doubt his integrity about the 2010 clearing cap plan... it's just some of his other inconsistencies that i doubt... we use a pick on a player who he seemingly is high on & a few months later we end up dumping him with other assets to clear cap... if we were trying to dump Fishlips contract last year don't u think a #8 lottery pick would have been more than enough to get it done w/o having to deal away future picks in the process? i do. I have to admitt, I am a bit intigued by Walker and Giddens. I watched both in college and think each them has good potential. Perhaps not both, but hopefully we can sign one of them next season and they can serve as our rookie, so-to-speak for next year. Hey, as Isiah said, when you dont have draft picks you have to "beat the bushes." |
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TMS
Posts: 60684 Alba Posts: 617 Joined: 5/11/2004 Member: #674 USA |
2/23/2010 10:57 PM
we barely have the cap space to sign 2 max guys as it is... to keep those guys they'd have to agree to minimum level deals... i think we can probably pick up talent on their level in the 2nd round personally... high flying dunk machines aren't that hard to find.
After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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