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arkrud
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2/22/2010  12:02 AM
TMS wrote:
Childs2Dudley wrote:

damn, Collison looks like he doin' some And1 stylin' on Fishlips on this break away.

You should be scared when dead people are coming close... So he run...

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TMS
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2/22/2010  12:05 AM
^ check out David West's eyes in the background... dude is mesmorized by Collison's fancy moves
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2/22/2010  12:16 AM
TMS wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:& before some idiot comes on & ridicules any fans who are crying over the almight Darko being traded, this is not about that... it's just the principle of trying to make sense out of the roster decisions this franchise makes... we trade for a guy to come in & be a defensive shotblocking presence this season & then he gets no playing time cuz the coach doesn't like his attitude, so we end up trading him to save a few bucks off the luxury tax which was pretty much akin to buying him out of his contract... just don't see the point in these types of moves... if u bring someone in on a trade or use a lottery pick to take someone, wouldn't it make some sense to actually play these guys? seems pretty logical to me.

why arent you singing the praises of mda??? step in line, son!!!
its all about the summer now: lbj+1

when Jessica Alba gets in the truck, i'll be right behind her son.

she needs some more ***... some o the others in that deal... $$$

GO TEAM VENTURE!!!!!
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2/22/2010  12:23 AM
TMS wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:& before some idiot comes on & ridicules any fans who are crying over the almight Darko being traded, this is not about that... it's just the principle of trying to make sense out of the roster decisions this franchise makes... we trade for a guy to come in & be a defensive shotblocking presence this season & then he gets no playing time cuz the coach doesn't like his attitude, so we end up trading him to save a few bucks off the luxury tax which was pretty much akin to buying him out of his contract... just don't see the point in these types of moves... if u bring someone in on a trade or use a lottery pick to take someone, wouldn't it make some sense to actually play these guys? seems pretty logical to me.

why arent you singing the praises of mda??? step in line, son!!!
its all about the summer now: lbj+1

when Jessica Alba gets in the truck, i'll be right behind her son.

You're going to do her son?

Well, she is pretty hot, whatever she poops out male or female it'll probably be pretty good looking, so well I won't judge you on that one I suppose. Yet still...man, what the....


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2/22/2010  12:28 AM
Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.
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2/22/2010  12:41 AM
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:
sidsanders wrote:
TMS wrote:& before some idiot comes on & ridicules any fans who are crying over the almight Darko being traded, this is not about that... it's just the principle of trying to make sense out of the roster decisions this franchise makes... we trade for a guy to come in & be a defensive shotblocking presence this season & then he gets no playing time cuz the coach doesn't like his attitude, so we end up trading him to save a few bucks off the luxury tax which was pretty much akin to buying him out of his contract... just don't see the point in these types of moves... if u bring someone in on a trade or use a lottery pick to take someone, wouldn't it make some sense to actually play these guys? seems pretty logical to me.

why arent you singing the praises of mda??? step in line, son!!!
its all about the summer now: lbj+1

when Jessica Alba gets in the truck, i'll be right behind her son.

she needs some more ***... some o the others in that deal... $$$

let me know who you'd like from my Alba team & i'll see what i can do

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2/22/2010  12:41 AM
TMS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Oh Lawds what ever will we do!

I know! We can re-sign Darko to the Max this summer and then sign FishLips to the max in 2011!

CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!

see, that's your typical cop out response to a legitimate question... we had Darko on the bench all year & yet MDA refused to use him over scrubs like Bender who could barely run up & down the court w/o toppling over... our biggest need was for shotblocking in our frontcourt to cover for Lee's pisspoor defense & we refuse to use our only shotblocking big off the bench... does that make sense to u?


Papabear Says

These guys don't care. I think D'Antoni cares more about players who kiss his butt. And people like Coamic who really don't have an answer about Darko so he just say so what.Thats why I question who is coming here this summer. We could have used Darko but he was not D'Antonios guy. We could sign Lebron James and if we don't make the playoffs some people on this blog would be ready to give him away for free.They have no value on our own players. Jefferies played his heart out every night. Yes he was over paid but he played defense.

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2/22/2010  12:44 AM
Papabear wrote:
TMS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Oh Lawds what ever will we do!

I know! We can re-sign Darko to the Max this summer and then sign FishLips to the max in 2011!

CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!

see, that's your typical cop out response to a legitimate question... we had Darko on the bench all year & yet MDA refused to use him over scrubs like Bender who could barely run up & down the court w/o toppling over... our biggest need was for shotblocking in our frontcourt to cover for Lee's pisspoor defense & we refuse to use our only shotblocking big off the bench... does that make sense to u?


Papabear Says

These guys don't care. I think D'Antoni cares more about players who kiss his butt. And people like Coamic who really don't have an answer about Darko so he just say so what.Thats why I question who is coming here this summer. We could have used Darko but he was not D'Antonios guy. We could sign Lebron James and if we don't make the playoffs some people on this blog would be ready to give him away for free.They have no value on our own players. Jefferies played his heart out every night. Yes he was over paid but he played defense.


True, but he cost us 2 picks. I will always remember him for that.
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2/22/2010  12:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2010  12:50 AM
WindsorPl wrote:Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.

FWD to 0:47... Darko can hit the 15 footer... he can also pass the ball for a bigman (FWD to a nice alley oop pass at 1:07)... i think MDA just plain didn't like this dude man... maybe his attitude in practice sucked or something, or maybe he threatened to phuch him in his mouth or something... who knows... all i know is he had skills that could have been of use to us.

just some more examples of him shooting from outside... he had a decent touch for a guy his size

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2/22/2010  12:47 AM
WindsorPl wrote:Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.

Papabear Says

We will never win a championship without a real center. Mike D will never win a championship for us.

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2/22/2010  12:50 AM
WindsorPl wrote:
Papabear wrote:
TMS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Oh Lawds what ever will we do!

I know! We can re-sign Darko to the Max this summer and then sign FishLips to the max in 2011!


True, but he cost us 2 picks. I will always remember him for that.

Papabear Says
True but that's not Jefferies Fault it's the management fault.

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2/22/2010  12:54 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2010  12:56 AM
Papabear wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.

Papabear Says

We will never win a championship without a real center. Mike D will never win a championship for us.

There's more to it than that...I can't help remembering some of the calls out of time outs...like the whole thing with Nate with seconds on the clock and Nate dropping the f-bomb on him.

And then there's last night....if your a 'coaching genius' you gotta be able to pull off some of those close games.

You can be a 'system guy' all you want and cry about not having 'your type of guys' but you are not going to blow everybody away every game. And from what little I have seen and I admit it is a limited sample. I've seen absolutely nothing that makes me want him as my coach with 5 seconds and we need a basket to win.

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2/22/2010  1:02 AM
TMS wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.

FWD to 0:47... Darko can hit the 15 footer... he can also pass the ball for a bigman (FWD to a nice alley oop pass at 1:07)... i think MDA just plain didn't like this dude man... maybe his attitude in practice sucked or something, or maybe he threatened to phuch him in his mouth or something... who knows... all i know is he had skills that could have been of use to us.

just some more examples of him shooting from outside... he had a decent touch for a guy his size

The irony is Walsh and D'Antoni traded for him because, they said he can face up the basket and knocked down a J.

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2/22/2010  1:07 AM
WindsorPl wrote:
TMS wrote:
WindsorPl wrote:Darko could have helped the Knicks at least on the defensive end. It is a moot point, but it does point out something disturbing. D'Antoni never liked a center that clogged the paint, if you can't step out and shoot the 15 footer, you are not playing.

FWD to 0:47... Darko can hit the 15 footer... he can also pass the ball for a bigman (FWD to a nice alley oop pass at 1:07)... i think MDA just plain didn't like this dude man... maybe his attitude in practice sucked or something, or maybe he threatened to phuch him in his mouth or something... who knows... all i know is he had skills that could have been of use to us.

just some more examples of him shooting from outside... he had a decent touch for a guy his size

The irony is Walsh and D'Antoni traded for him because, they said he can face up the basket and knocked down a J.

yeah i know, i remember them saying that about Darko when they made the trade... just doesn't make sense why he didn't get any time on the floor unless he had some kinda run in w/MDA off the court or was slacking off badly in practice.

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2/22/2010  7:20 AM
I caught part of the Rocket game last night, and the announcers were all excited about Jefferies - and that fact that the Rockets hadn't had a big man with his size in a while.

I still think he could've been traded without the sacrifice of 3 draft picks, and I suspect the only reason we had to include them was Walsh wanted to dump salary and get better this year as well - its been his MO throughout his time here.

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2/22/2010  8:51 AM
I got so angry when Clyde said, "We miss Jeffries right now..." during the Thunder game. Jared Jeffries was total garbage.
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2/22/2010  9:05 AM
iSergio wrote:I got so angry when Clyde said, "We miss Jeffries right now..." during the Thunder game. Jared Jeffries was total garbage.

He was a solid and versatile defender, no matter how frustrating he was to watch on offense, and you know that Frazier, who just might have a better grasp of the game than some of us, was talking about his defensive presence.

The guy had one of the better =/- numbers on the team, if I remember correctly.

We had to get rid of his contract, and it is upsetting to me that we had to give up Hill and a #1 to get him, but people are always looking at what he could not do as a player and don't give him enough credit for the other things he did on the court.

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2/22/2010  10:17 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2010  10:17 AM
I can't stand listening to Frasier. I would take back Darko, Fishlips, and even Phuckbury right now if Clyde would agree to retire from broadcasting (/s). Great Knick, but his droll presentation is shyte.
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2/22/2010  10:19 AM
Moonangie wrote:I can't stand listening to Frasier. I would take back Darko, Fishlips, and even Phuckbury right now if Clyde would agree to retire from broadcasting (/s). Great Knick, but his droll presentation is shyte.

I can't wait to hear Clyde say "Chris Barrsh" next year. LOL

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2/22/2010  10:38 AM
Papabear wrote:
TMS wrote:
Cosmic wrote:Oh Lawds what ever will we do!

I know! We can re-sign Darko to the Max this summer and then sign FishLips to the max in 2011!

CHAMPIONSHIP HERE WE COME!!!!!!!!!!!!

see, that's your typical cop out response to a legitimate question... we had Darko on the bench all year & yet MDA refused to use him over scrubs like Bender who could barely run up & down the court w/o toppling over... our biggest need was for shotblocking in our frontcourt to cover for Lee's pisspoor defense & we refuse to use our only shotblocking big off the bench... does that make sense to u?


Papabear Says

These guys don't care. I think D'Antoni cares more about players who kiss his butt. And people like Coamic who really don't have an answer about Darko so he just say so what.Thats why I question who is coming here this summer. We could have used Darko but he was not D'Antonios guy. We could sign Lebron James and if we don't make the playoffs some people on this blog would be ready to give him away for free.They have no value on our own players. Jefferies played his heart out every night. Yes he was over paid but he played defense.

LOL @ calling me out and not even reading my response to TMS about what I always felt about Darko.

Here, I'll make it easy, it was a few posts back.


I said it all year that we should play Darko.

So...you're wrong about my POV on this topic.

I wanted to start him at Center and keep him there good or bad game.

I also wanted to start Hughes and keep him at SG regardless of a bad game.

But, well, Mike wouldn't do it.

I felt we needed to go with

Darko
Lee
Harrington
Hughes
Duhon

And let them gut it out win or loss. You work the other players in as backups over time. Not fumble around a starting lineup.

But well...that's all moot now.


So, care to try again Papabear? You called me out in a thread a week or so ago, wrongly speaking for me, and I replied in that thread in detail to explain to you my point of view, and how it differed from how you perceive my POV and you ignored me.

Gotta read the whole thread, kiddo, before foolishly calling someone out. But, that's what you do, isn't it.

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