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Can Chandler and Gallo Learn some Positive things playing the game with T Mack being here? and What?
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Moonangie
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2/21/2010  6:11 PM
TMS wrote:i think bitty has a point, T-Mac has never been known to be a leader & yet u guys are pinning your hopes on him to be one w/the Knicks... not a good gamble... but then, taking bad risks seems to be the norm around here of late, so probably not surprising.

T-Mac is here for 1 purpose & 1 purpose only, he wants to show he can still play... he knows he wouldn't get as much of an opportunity to do that on any contending teams right now, & there is no bigger stage than on Broadway... this is his perfect opportunity to get himself on the ESPN highlights & show other GM's he can still ball... he can say all he wants that he came here to help these guys learn & develop but that's all just politically correct BS just like Donnie & MDA shell out on a nightly basis... just enjoy what u can get out of him these next 28 games cuz he's probably playing elsewhere next season (unless of course Dolan falls in love w/the guy down the stretch this year & demands he be re-signed to a longterm extension, which is distinctly possible)

It is not possible in any way, shape or form.

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2/21/2010  6:17 PM
Moonangie wrote:
TMS wrote:i think bitty has a point, T-Mac has never been known to be a leader & yet u guys are pinning your hopes on him to be one w/the Knicks... not a good gamble... but then, taking bad risks seems to be the norm around here of late, so probably not surprising.

T-Mac is here for 1 purpose & 1 purpose only, he wants to show he can still play... he knows he wouldn't get as much of an opportunity to do that on any contending teams right now, & there is no bigger stage than on Broadway... this is his perfect opportunity to get himself on the ESPN highlights & show other GM's he can still ball... he can say all he wants that he came here to help these guys learn & develop but that's all just politically correct BS just like Donnie & MDA shell out on a nightly basis... just enjoy what u can get out of him these next 28 games cuz he's probably playing elsewhere next season (unless of course Dolan falls in love w/the guy down the stretch this year & demands he be re-signed to a longterm extension, which is distinctly possible)

It is not possible in any way, shape or form.

how is it not possible for Dolan to fall in love w/a player & demand he be re-signed? do u remember the contract we gave to Allan Houston when there were no other serious bidders driving up his price? we negotiated against ourselves & handed him a $100 million dollar deal to stay in NY... if u don't think Dolan had something to do w/that ur kidding urself.

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2/21/2010  6:38 PM
I think D'Antoni had lost the locker room before the trade. Moving all of the guys that were moved and bringing in a guy who has been dying to play all year had to help him out a bit. I liked that McGrady and House both played like they cared. I haven't seen that from guys coached by D'Antoni in his tenure in NY. I also liked that McGrady at the half talked about how the team needed to get back more on defense. I think the edition of House may be more of a positive than I had expected. He came from a great team that was well coached, played both ends of the floor and there were expectations of hard play on both ends of the court. You could see that in his effort and play. I think McGrady is a talent and was dying to bust out this season in away similar to when Nate wasn't allowed to play and went for 41.
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2/21/2010  6:56 PM
I'm not saying T-Mac is basketball's version of Tom Brady. But I think he has lot to teach the younger guys in terms of playing the game. T-Mac is one of the best players I have ever seen at sizing up his defender from the triple threat position and keeping his man off balance. That's something I know Gallo and Chandler can pick up on.
I thinking playing with skilled players in practice and during games can develop elevate your game. I'm not sure if Trevor Ariza ever improves as much as he has if he wasn't getting waxed by Kobe day in and day out during practice.
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2/22/2010  12:53 AM
BigDaddyG wrote:I'm not saying T-Mac is basketball's version of Tom Brady. But I think he has lot to teach the younger guys in terms of playing the game. T-Mac is one of the best players I have ever seen at sizing up his defender from the triple threat position and keeping his man off balance. That's something I know Gallo and Chandler can pick up on.
I thinking playing with skilled players in practice and during games can develop elevate your game. I'm not sure if Trevor Ariza ever improves as much as he has if he wasn't getting waxed by Kobe day in and day out during practice.

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2/22/2010  1:13 AM
TMac reminds me of Gerald Green. Totally ripped off his game.
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2/22/2010  4:28 AM
im not sure if some of u watched the game, the highlights, or just reading stats of the game. I watched the game but I dont want to judge Tmac on one game, but I did see leadership and for once i saw ball movement unless AL HARRINGTON touched it. I think Chandler had the potential to be a Tmac/Caron Butler/Marion mold. I mean thats his HIGHEST peak if he ever achieves his peak. As for now, I think he is far from this tmac we have on the knicks team.
Tmac even with his lat knees and back is still providing a sense of leadership on and off the court. Hes not greedy and demands double teams. He can handle the ball, shoot, pass, spread the floor.
with that said, i hope he can hold up....
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2/22/2010  6:25 AM
Well, i hope they can learn two things: 1) the mentality you have to bring t be a star in this league; and 2) how to create opportunities for teammates. T-Mac is a great passer and he is a guy that makes the players around him better. I hope Gallo and Chandler can learn how he does that and emulate it to a certain extent. Chandler has T-Mac-like athleticism and should be able to create more offense for others than he does right now. Both need to develop a more aggressive attitude on the court. T-Mac has a laid back personality, but on the court, the dude brings it.
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2/22/2010  6:39 AM
TheGame wrote:Well, i hope they can learn two things: 1) the mentality you have to bring t be a star in this league; and 2) how to create opportunities for teammates. T-Mac is a great passer and he is a guy that makes the players around him better. I hope Gallo and Chandler can learn how he does that and emulate it to a certain extent. Chandler has T-Mac-like athleticism and should be able to create more offense for others than he does right now. Both need to develop a more aggressive attitude on the court. T-Mac has a laid back personality, but on the court, the dude brings it.

Wilson is a lot more athletic than T-Mac in his current state... T-Mac does not have the explosion he used to have but he knows how to get to the hole & draw contact, plus he gets the benefit of the calls from the refs, something our guys have yet to earn... the one thing that really impressed me about T-Mac's game last nite was the attention he drew whenever he was on the floor, both from the other team & from the refs... i agree that Wilson can learn how to create offense for his teammates from watching T-Mac play... his aggressiveness on the court has improved dramatically this season over last year IMO... the only things Wilson & Gallo lack is consistency & the "give me the ball" attitude... once they develop those things (if they do that is), they can be a stars in this league, but not every player has it in them to get to that next level like T-Mac has in his career.

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2/22/2010  8:13 AM
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2/22/2010  8:36 AM
The "K" is silent
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2/22/2010  8:42 AM
BasketballJones wrote:
Papabear wrote:
BasketballJones wrote:T-mac can teach them how to properly rub their sore broken knees.

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2/22/2010  10:20 AM
My question is this if the Gallo and Chandler are apart of the Knick's future plans how will guy like T-Mac who is prone to jacking up 20 plus shots going to help in that development? This guy's career average shot attempts is close to 20 a game. He was jacking up 20 plus shots with Yao so that doesn't leave me much hope that Gallo or Chandler will have lots of opportunity. For a guy with his quickness and athleticism he only averaged 4 assists throughout his career again another telling stat for T-Mac.

Because at this point the Knicks are all but out of the playoff race so where is the benefit to having this guy put up a ton off shots while the guys like Gallo and Chandler stand around watching him.

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2/22/2010  10:28 AM
SupremeCommander wrote:The "K" is silent

The NY Knicks -- "We put the K in McGrady"

lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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2/22/2010  12:06 PM
SupremeCommander wrote:The "K" is silent

That's what you think.

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2/22/2010  1:56 PM
Being optimistic, let's hope that all of the time off has allowed his back to heal or at least get stronger.

T-Mac is just one of those players that can make the exceptional look easy. I think the Knicks as a whole will benefit from have a clear focal point for the offense. He's a very complete player offensively with both the ability to score and create for others, and at least earlier in his career, was a pretty competent defender.

At least on offense, he could fill the gaps and help get the ball to the right folks when they're open. I think Gallo in particular could benefit from knowing that his teammate will reward him with a great pass if he gets to the right spot. Duhon has a bit of tunnel vision to David Lee - and Al Harrington doesn't pass to anyone.

I think Chandler could learn from T-Mac along the lines of the way Ariza evolved into more than just an energy guy with Kobe, much in the way Richard Jefferson evolved into a more complete player by playing with Kidd and Carter. (yes, sure he's devolved...)

Our other acquisition - Sergio will help make our 3pt shooters more proficient and space the floor better with his ability to get to the basket. He will have to evolve a little bit as a scorer in order for his drives to be more effective. T Mac should be a calming presence on the team as a competent ball handler at the 2/3 positions.

Overall, I'm pretty excited about T-Mac. If we're able to add Bosh, while keeping T-Mac and Lee, we should be primed for a pretty solid team. We're still short of a defensive player that could shoot the 3.

Granted, Lebron would rock the Knicks' world... but I'd hedge my bed. We'd have a pretty odd team full of 6'8-6'10" wings, no shot blocker, and no PG with shooting ability (unless that's House... or Tony Douglas). We'd also need to acquire a bruising big man who could hurt people...

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2/22/2010  5:04 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/22/2010  5:05 PM
bitty41 wrote:My question is this if the Gallo and Chandler are apart of the Knick's future plans how will guy like T-Mac who is prone to jacking up 20 plus shots going to help in that development? This guy's career average shot attempts is close to 20 a game. He was jacking up 20 plus shots with Yao so that doesn't leave me much hope that Gallo or Chandler will have lots of opportunity. For a guy with his quickness and athleticism he only averaged 4 assists throughout his career again another telling stat for T-Mac.

Because at this point the Knicks are all but out of the playoff race so where is the benefit to having this guy put up a ton off shots while the guys like Gallo and Chandler stand around watching him.

bitty, apparently u didn't get the memo... now that we're out of the playoff race, the develop the youth plan is no longer in effect... it is now the sell the most tickets i can plan by featuring a former star player trying to make his comeback in NYC plan... see, that plan was not applicable in the beginning of the season when we were talking about signing AI to a minimum contract without giving up assets because then it would have interfered with the development of our youth, & at the beginning of the season you always want to develop your youth before your team falls out of a playoff race by sitting them on the bench & playing scrub veterans... see how all that makes sense? damn, & i thought you knew basketball... i'm disappointed bitty.

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2/22/2010  5:20 PM
TMS wrote:
bitty41 wrote:My question is this if the Gallo and Chandler are apart of the Knick's future plans how will guy like T-Mac who is prone to jacking up 20 plus shots going to help in that development? This guy's career average shot attempts is close to 20 a game. He was jacking up 20 plus shots with Yao so that doesn't leave me much hope that Gallo or Chandler will have lots of opportunity. For a guy with his quickness and athleticism he only averaged 4 assists throughout his career again another telling stat for T-Mac.

Because at this point the Knicks are all but out of the playoff race so where is the benefit to having this guy put up a ton off shots while the guys like Gallo and Chandler stand around watching him.

bitty, apparently u didn't get the memo... now that we're out of the playoff race, the develop the youth plan is no longer in effect... it is now the sell the most tickets i can plan by featuring a former star player trying to make his comeback in NYC plan... see, that plan was not applicable in the beginning of the season when we were talking about signing AI to a minimum contract without giving up assets because then it would have interfered with the development of our youth, & at the beginning of the season you always want to develop your youth before your team falls out of a playoff race by sitting them on the bench & playing scrub veterans... see how all that makes sense? damn, & i thought you knew basketball... i'm disappointed bitty.

Yea I guess we're both fools and the AI argument is still good lolz moments.

Can Chandler and Gallo Learn some Positive things playing the game with T Mack being here? and What?

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