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If Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Amare don't sign w/the Knicks this summer, what would you rather us do?


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TMS
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What would you do if we missed out on the top FA's this offseason?
sign 2nd tier stars like Joe Johnson & Carlos Boozer & aim for the playoffs
re-sign D Lee & wait for the 2011 FA class even if HOU gets our lottery pick
use the cap space to absorb bad contracts, accumulate picks & rebuild through the draft
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TMS
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2/20/2010  6:10 PM
Juice wrote:
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Uptown wrote:
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TMS wrote:i wouldn't be so quick to assume he won't sign Joe Johnson to at least very close to the max... whatever MDA wants he gets & u know he'll be pining for Joe Johnson if we miss out on Lebron & Wade... not so sure about Boozer cuz he's more suited to a half court style game, so he probably won't have as big a boner to sign him... DW would probably re-sign Lee than spend the bucks on Boozer.


I'd sign someone like Rudy Gay who wont command a max deal, package Chandler and maybe Curry and make a play for Rubio who would still be on a rookie contract which should still leave us a nice chunk of change for 2011.

what do we have left to make a play for Rubio with if you're trying to use Wilson to dump Curry's contract?

Typo...my bad. Thought I deleted Currys name while typing. Edited my post.

man, the more i think about it, the more it becomes evident that we still need to dump Curry's contract if we want to put together a serious contender this summer... even Lebron & 1 other max FA is not going to be enough with just Gallo & Wilson & a collection of minimum salary guys... Curry would have to come back & be productive again in that scenario & that's not something we can lay our hats on... if we can figure out a way to dump his contract, we can then offer Lebron the prospect of coming to play with 2 star calibre talents if what T-Mac was saying yesterday was true about him being willing to sign here for less if Lebron & another star were to come here this summer.

Our GM stated Curry won't be able to be traded until he can prove he can stay on the floor. Do you think Curry gets back on the floor this with an significant playing time? If not, then he won't get traded in the summer unless we give up something else of major value.

absolutely, he won't be tradeable at all unless he gets back on the court & produces... even then we'll still have to throw in an asset to dump his contract... i don't think there's any way Curry returns to his borderline Allstar year form... we really should have traded him at that point instead of looking to pair him up with Zach freakin' Randolph... sheeesh, what a clusterphuch of moves one right after another.

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2/20/2010  6:12 PM
If Lebron, Bosh, or Wade don't sign with the Knicks, then i would rather us tar and feather Walsh and send him out of town for setting our franchise back 3 years.
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2/20/2010  6:18 PM
Cosmic wrote:
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TMS wrote:i wouldn't be so quick to assume he won't sign Joe Johnson to at least very close to the max... whatever MDA wants he gets & u know he'll be pining for Joe Johnson if we miss out on Lebron & Wade... not so sure about Boozer cuz he's more suited to a half court style game, so he probably won't have as big a boner to sign him... DW would probably re-sign Lee than spend the bucks on Boozer.

i love how you act like it's a bad idea to give a coach players that he wants. that was the EXACT problem we had with isiah/larry - isiah wouldn't let go of his players and get larry his own players. look at larry in charlotte with players HE is picking. he's winning.

if you hire a coach, especially if you are rebuilding, the only way that makes sense is to go out and get the players the coach wants.

i dunno WTF you're attacking me for, i'm just stating facts... MDA gets what he wants... it's been proven since he took this job... we drafted Gallo cuz that's who he wanted... we passed on signing AI cuz MDA probably didn't wanna deal w/his baggage... we signed Chris Duhon cuz MDA wanted him... he gets what he wants.


Shouldn't we give the coach the players he needs to succeed?

Especially if we're in the position to do so as we are?

I mean, you hire a new coach to coach an existing team loaded with long term players - that's different - the coach has to make do until the team can get him "his" players over time.

But with a clean slate - and an established coach - the GM's job is to get that coach HIS players so he can win.

Otherwise it doesn't work. If Walsh goes and gets slow plodding half court defense priority players - then Mike will fail and the Knicks will fail.

What good is that?

Walsh's job is to now get Mike "his" players. And he will. Why? Walsh and Mike have said time and again they are on the same page. The two got together before taking on the Knicks and agreed to work together.

There will be moments when there will be disagreements, or maybe Walsh doesn't think a move Mike wants would work financially in the big picture. But for the most part? Walsh will get Mike his players.

we should give the coach the players he needs to succeed, absolutely... that's not the same as catering to the whims of the coach on every single roster decision you make tho... as a GM you are paid to do a job, & that is to bring in the best talent u can with the assets you have at your disposal, & it's the coach's job to coach that talent & get them to play like a team... i dunno how any Knick fan can honestly stand here & tell me that both those guys have done a good job of this over the past 2 seasons... yes, Donnie's #1 goal was to clear cap room... he accomplished that plan at a very heavy cost & has now backed this franchise into a corner where they either land Lebron & another big name this summer or they fail miserably... before this T-Mac deal was made this was not the case... we had cap space to sign a max guy & another impact player, we had our picks, we had a young developing bigman prospect to groom for the future... we had fall back options in case we didn't land Lebron... we now have none other than this plan: scramble to sign anyone we possibly can in order to make the playoffs next season & not look like fools for giving up all the picks we just did to Houston if we miss out on the guys we want... to me, that's a moronic fallback plan.

look i'm rooting like hell that this plan works out & all of us are happy come July 1st... but i have huge reservations on whether or not that's gonna be the case & i'm voicing it... i wish i could have your confidence that everything will work out just great but i don't.

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2/20/2010  6:19 PM
TheGame wrote:If Lebron, Bosh, or Wade don't sign with the Knicks, then i would rather us tar and feather Walsh and send him out of town for setting our franchise back 3 years.

agree with this plan.

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2/20/2010  6:33 PM
Sell cap space for picks and young pieces. Build the team patiently. If after the 3 trades; Marbury, Curry, Tmac and the mortgaging of the future, management and the fans are not convinced quick fix gambles do not work, they will deserve to be the laughing stock of the NBA for the next 10 years.
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2/20/2010  6:55 PM
WindsorPl wrote:Sell cap space for picks and young pieces. Build the team patiently. If after the 3 trades; Marbury, Curry, Tmac and the mortgaging of the future, management and the fans are not convinced quick fix gambles do not work, they will deserve to be the laughing stock of the NBA for the next 10 years.

wouldn't that be the route Isiah took already? taking on bad contracts to accumulate picks? we did that in the Kurt Thomas for Q Rich trade & ended up with Nate Robinson, who we just traded away for scraps... we also did that in the Nazr Mohammed for Malik trade & ended up with 2 picks from the Spurs (don't recall who we ended up drafting with those picks)... wouldn't going back to that plan be in essence be finding ourselves right back where we started? capped out for years with bad contracts & relying on a Knicks' management that has yet to develop a star player using their draft picks other than David Lee, who's a borderline star?

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2/20/2010  7:08 PM
TMS wrote:
crzymdups wrote:
TMS wrote:i wouldn't be so quick to assume he won't sign Joe Johnson to at least very close to the max... whatever MDA wants he gets & u know he'll be pining for Joe Johnson if we miss out on Lebron & Wade... not so sure about Boozer cuz he's more suited to a half court style game, so he probably won't have as big a boner to sign him... DW would probably re-sign Lee than spend the bucks on Boozer.

i love how you act like it's a bad idea to give a coach players that he wants. that was the EXACT problem we had with isiah/larry - isiah wouldn't let go of his players and get larry his own players. look at larry in charlotte with players HE is picking. he's winning.

if you hire a coach, especially if you are rebuilding, the only way that makes sense is to go out and get the players the coach wants.

i dunno WTF you're attacking me for, i'm just stating facts... MDA gets what he wants... it's been proven since he took this job... we drafted Gallo cuz that's who he wanted... we passed on signing AI cuz MDA probably didn't wanna deal w/his baggage... we signed Chris Duhon cuz MDA wanted him... he gets what he wants.

He wanted Nate gone...he's gone.

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If Lebron/Wade/Bosh/Amare don't sign w/the Knicks this summer, what would you rather us do?

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