Olbrannon wrote:From ESPN Lee's stats so far this season.

A block every third game? From your center?...c'mon...I doubt he averages a charge drawn a month.

Jared Jeffries got some blocks and charges. Lets bring him back instead of Lee.

If you dont see the value of Lee its not really worth discussing.

Jessica can come to my room.

cheers

Knixkik wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm hearing different sources reporting that Bosh wants to be the main guy on the team he's on, so that means he's not as open to playing second fiddle to Lebron in NY... i think dj mentioned this as well on a recent thread.

Then he's a damn fool. Enjoy your championship-less career, Chris. He'll change his tune when he's 34 and broken down.

i agree, he'd be a fool not to want to play second fiddle to Lebron or Wade.

I think Bosh would come if lebron recruited him to new york. I can see Amare going to miami and bosh coming here with lebron. He wouldn't be the best player on the team, but he would be the main post presence. I can't imagine him turning down that possibility. I would love to keep Lee, but i think if we get lebron we will sign and trade lee to toronto for bosh or phoenix for amare just because that is what lebron will want.

If we get Lebron we are better off using the remaining money to fill out the roster with good players, rather than blow it all on Bosh and have nothing but scrubs. What if McGrady is healthy and turns out to be a really good player? Like Grant Hill has done in Pho? Wouldnt you rather have Lee for $9mm (thats 6 years $70mm) and and TMac for $7mm than Bosh for $16mm? If not McGrady there are other options. Thats a good chunk of change left for a young guy. Briggs put a good list together in another thread.

arkrud wrote:Mike will never use defense as main factor to win games, so he will never put defensive players on this roster.
Lee is his type of C\PF and he is there to stay if Walsh/Mike will be around.
You like it or not they get read of JJ and get this space not for 2nd max FA but for Lee.
I know a lot of posters will be pissed, but face the reality...
Of course in very unlikely event of 2 max guys conspire to team-up in NY, we will kiss Lee goodby; but it like 1%. Who is banking on this? Not the old man.
If management/coaching will change this will be another story.

I just don't see how you can only concentrate on one facet of the game and expect to win a championship. You need both and JJ didn't have it and neither does Lee at his current position.

knicks1248 wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm hearing different sources reporting that Bosh wants to be the main guy on the team he's on, so that means he's not as open to playing second fiddle to Lebron in NY... i think dj mentioned this as well on a recent thread.

I can't believe he would say something like that, especially publicly. That's usually discuss in private during negotiations and if that's the case I don't want him. He's pretty much a soft ass big man who benefits from playing in era in which skilled rugged big man are almost extinct..

He's not better then Ewing, hakeem, or D RoB, and those were finesss big men who could also bang.

Lee has gotten better every single season since he's been in the league, why would he not be part of a big 3 or even part of a duo..I'm pretty sure he will be just as good as Bosh is next season

I don't get all these knocks on Bosh, did you see him rip homeboy into shreds or not?

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm hearing different sources reporting that Bosh wants to be the main guy on the team he's on, so that means he's not as open to playing second fiddle to Lebron in NY... i think dj mentioned this as well on a recent thread.

Then he's a damn fool. Enjoy your championship-less career, Chris. He'll change his tune when he's 34 and broken down.

i agree, he'd be a fool not to want to play second fiddle to Lebron or Wade.

I think Bosh would come if lebron recruited him to new york. I can see Amare going to miami and bosh coming here with lebron. He wouldn't be the best player on the team, but he would be the main post presence. I can't imagine him turning down that possibility. I would love to keep Lee, but i think if we get lebron we will sign and trade lee to toronto for bosh or phoenix for amare just because that is what lebron will want.

why would Lee or Toronto do that?

If we get Lebron we are better off using the remaining money to fill out the roster with good players, rather than blow it all on Bosh and have nothing but scrubs. What if McGrady is healthy and turns out to be a really good player? Like Grant Hill has done in Pho? Wouldnt you rather have Lee for $9mm (thats 6 years $70mm) and and TMac for $7mm than Bosh for $16mm? If not McGrady there are other options. Thats a good chunk of change left for a young guy. Briggs put a good list together in another thread.

Toronto would do it to get a replacement for Bosh and not lose him for nothing. Lee would do it because a sign and trade will get him more money and more years if toronto wants to give it to him. I agree we are just as well filling out the rest of the roster with good players if we get Lebron (lee, tmac, bell, camby) but lebron will likely want another big star, so we will have to get one. Then we will use curry's contract as bait to help fill out the roster.

knicks1248 wrote:

Rip who into shreds..somebody smaller, shorter, with less skills,,

David Lee. The same guy every guard flies right by for a layup. Every SF pulls up from 6 feet out and buries a J. Every PF or C that ... well... would dunk in his face is Lee actually bothered to move his cement shoes into position to get dunked on.

David Lee is the WORST defender in the entire history of the NBA going back through it's 64 year history. He's the worst defender in all of college basketball going back what 120 years.

The guy is TERRIBLE. Everything he gives you on offense he gives up two fold on defense. And as a pivot, who is the anchor of the defense, this is inexcuseable.

And for those who say "Oh, well that's because he's playing CENTER, he's a PF, put him at PF."

LMFAO he can't guard the snails that are the centers of the NBA but now he's going to guard that lightning quick PFs of the NBA? I DONT THINK SO.

fishmike wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

TMS wrote:

Panos wrote:

TMS wrote:i'm hearing different sources reporting that Bosh wants to be the main guy on the team he's on, so that means he's not as open to playing second fiddle to Lebron in NY... i think dj mentioned this as well on a recent thread.

Then he's a damn fool. Enjoy your championship-less career, Chris. He'll change his tune when he's 34 and broken down.

i agree, he'd be a fool not to want to play second fiddle to Lebron or Wade.

I think Bosh would come if lebron recruited him to new york. I can see Amare going to miami and bosh coming here with lebron. He wouldn't be the best player on the team, but he would be the main post presence. I can't imagine him turning down that possibility. I would love to keep Lee, but i think if we get lebron we will sign and trade lee to toronto for bosh or phoenix for amare just because that is what lebron will want.

why would Lee or Toronto do that?

If we get Lebron we are better off using the remaining money to fill out the roster with good players, rather than blow it all on Bosh and have nothing but scrubs. What if McGrady is healthy and turns out to be a really good player? Like Grant Hill has done in Pho? Wouldnt you rather have Lee for $9mm (thats 6 years $70mm) and and TMac for $7mm than Bosh for $16mm? If not McGrady there are other options. Thats a good chunk of change left for a young guy. Briggs put a good list together in another thread.

bottomline is this all hinges on the player Lebron wants to come to NY to play with... if he wants to come at all... if Lebron wants to play with Bosh then D Lee is a goner for sure... if he wants to come play with Lee & T-Mac or Camby, then that's very doable from our perspective, but that's also a big if & a lot less likely.