TMS wrote:

nixluva wrote:Hey you guys that are down on this have a blast sulking in the corner with each other, but don't expect the rest of us to not be happy about the very real chance to make a major improvements to this team. No matter what happens we are out of cap hell and we have Major options to improve the team from here. Not in the draft, but then we had to give up something for the chance to get the leagues best players, coming from where we were.

we were already out of cap hell... there was no need to go all in on a panic ass move like this & give up all our future assets for the 2 years... for everyone's sake, Lebron & Wade better end up in a Knicks' uniform this summer, that's all i gotta say.

So Jordan Hill and two picks likely in the 20s are our future?

TMS wrote:

sebstar wrote:

nixluva wrote:The only thing to really complain about is the worst case scenario, where we end up with no one! Other than that, this is what we all have dreamed about. Having enough cap space to get LEBRON AND ANOTHER TOP PLAYER! Are you kidding me? Two top tier guys here in NY? Why wouldn't we have a big shot to complete those deals? What's so special about this is that even minus Lebron, you can put together a really great tandem.

Would Walsh be dumb enough to trade away a treasure trove of assets just to re-sign David Lee and sign Joe Johnson?

bro no offense, but in this thread you're calling the assets we gave up a treasure trove of assets, & in others you're calling Jordan Hill out as trash & the picks we get as probable late round picks since we're likely going to get Lebron & Wade this summer.

Hold up, you got me twisted up with somebody else. I've shytted on Jordan Hill, of course. But I've never shytted on the draft picks. Potentially giving up two lottery picks, combined with losing our last two is making me pause.

I'm just hoping Walsh knows what he's doing. This is high risk, high reward. We all know this.

iSergio wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:To give up so many picks and put so little protection on most of them---why because we are the worst run organization in sports. We spend because we have--but from a win loss/salary scenario--we will never be matched in sports history. I see such huge huge flaw in this decision--and unless Lebron James comes to NY --we will pay for it for another 6-10 years. Since Jim Dolan bought the team--he has run it into the gutter and taken the fans along for the ride. I really hope that Lebron DOES not come here--it's too cheap. Sometimes we have to wish to lose to get the coaces or GM out---this time it's the spoon fed owner--enough of this fat little guy.

You need help.

Same kid who keeps changing his aliases--you go girl.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

TMS wrote:we were already out of cap hell... there was no need to go all in on a panic ass move like this & give up all our future assets for the 2 years... for everyone's sake, Lebron & Wade better end up in a Knicks' uniform this summer, that's all i gotta say.

Or Joe Johnson? Or Chris Bosh? Or Dirk? It isn't just about LeBron & Wade, right?

And if they all fall through, it's all good, because we won't overpay for talent, are patient enough as a franchise & fanbase to rebuild via the 2011 FA class, right?

riiiiiiight.

BRIGGS wrote:

sebstar wrote:

nixluva wrote:The only thing to really complain about is the worst case scenario, where we end up with no one! Other than that, this is what we all have dreamed about. Having enough cap space to get LEBRON AND ANOTHER TOP PLAYER! Are you kidding me? Two top tier guys here in NY? Why wouldn't we have a big shot to complete those deals? What's so special about this is that even minus Lebron, you can put together a really great tandem.

Would Walsh be dumb enough to trade away a treasure trove of assets just to re-sign David Lee and sign Joe Johnson?

Wait dont be negative

If this blows up in his face, they will write this shyt on his tombstone. It cant happen and I'm thinkin' nothing but positive thoughts, unless this fool has gone senile.

DrAlphaeus wrote:

TMS wrote:we were already out of cap hell... there was no need to go all in on a panic ass move like this & give up all our future assets for the 2 years... for everyone's sake, Lebron & Wade better end up in a Knicks' uniform this summer, that's all i gotta say.

Or Joe Johnson? Or Chris Bosh? Or Dirk? It isn't just about LeBron & Wade, right?

And if they all fall through, it's all good, because we won't overpay for talent, are patient enough as a franchise & fanbase to rebuild via the 2011 FA class, right?

Wrong. Just look at the responses regarding the trades. A lot of giddiness over an uncompleted process. I've read responses that would curl milk. Now to complete this, we must get a top FA. The way things are shaping up, the pickins' will be slim. I see one max player and maybe what amounts to one or two second tier players, similar to a Gallo or a Chandler. It might get us into the playoffs, but not very far. I hope we can mine some gold in the second round of the drafts.

tell me what successful franchise has maneuvered like this? It's insane--it's not good business--it's a panic move.

BRIGGS wrote:

iSergio wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:To give up so many picks and put so little protection on most of them---why because we are the worst run organization in sports. We spend because we have--but from a win loss/salary scenario--we will never be matched in sports history. I see such huge huge flaw in this decision--and unless Lebron James comes to NY --we will pay for it for another 6-10 years. Since Jim Dolan bought the team--he has run it into the gutter and taken the fans along for the ride. I really hope that Lebron DOES not come here--it's too cheap. Sometimes we have to wish to lose to get the coaces or GM out---this time it's the spoon fed owner--enough of this fat little guy.

You need help.

Same kid who keeps changing his aliases--you go girl.

No idea what you're talking about - I've never participated on this board before.

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:For those who think this trade is good--and having us pegged into a top 5 team next year

tell me what successful franchise has maneuvered like this? It's insane--it's not good business--it's a panic move.

briggs calm the f down and hope for the best dude. christ. for once, just see what happens.

Dont tell me what to do please--I dont tell you what to do. Put me on ignore.

BRIGGS wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:For those who think this trade is good--and having us pegged into a top 5 team next year

tell me what successful franchise has maneuvered like this? It's insane--it's not good business--it's a panic move.

briggs calm the f down and hope for the best dude. christ. for once, just see what happens.

Dont tell me what to do please--I dont tell you what to do. Put me on ignore.

why would i put you on ignore? i like reading your posts. im telling you for once to have a little faith.

iSergio wrote:I'm just glad Donnie Walsh doesn't operate with this dooms day paranoia like some of you. If you're scared of failure, stay home. Come strong or don't come at all. There is a chance of failure in almost every scenario. But you have to look at the variables and weigh the possibilities. With room to sign 2 MAX FA's, the chances of getting shut out and ending up in the lottery are almost impossible. Did you guys forget where we play? Did you forget what arena we play in? Did you forget the media? This is not Milwaukee or that dump in Jersey. This is New York. FA's are going to line up to sign here. Trust me.

as attractive as we fans think the team should be to players, they havent turned that into a championship winning combo in almost 40 years. are the stars lining up to alter knick destiny? maybe, we shall see.