and lets say we got 2 FA including lebron--what is the team--the two max guy took all of the loot--we have 6 player uner contract 1 of them cant play. If Lebron is a man of his word and wants to play for a winner--tell me how we are going to win? No big men no bench --it could take years--isnt happening.

I cannot believe we just gave up so much for literally NOTHING --we paid to get rid of the guy we just picked 8!!!!! Maybe DW would like that Nate + Jeffries trade to Sac back on the table

nixluva wrote:The thing is that we don't know who we're getting yet! Also it's still entirely possible to acquire players thru sign & trades. It's really just pure pessimism to look at this as anything but a big positive development for this franchise.

how is it entirely a positive when you don't know who we're getting yet? also, forget about sign & trade scenarios cuz we just gave up our picks in this deal to dump Fishlips' deal... the only assets we'll have to trade for the next 2 years is Gallo & Wilson & neither of them will land you Lebron, Wade or any of the other elite names in a trade.

DJMUSIC wrote:Yea Brother!
Hooray Donnie Walsh, we get some personality for a chance to finish out season with TMAC
the PG S.Rodriquez I hear has upside also. Anyone whom is a PG whom can displace Chris "Terrible" Duhon
makes me happy!

Hi Tmac--hope your knee holds up 20 games--because you and S Rod will have to be renounced

No doubt it's a risky strategy. I would have strongly preferred not to give up the picks. I just hope there are solid plans B, C & D ready to go, including perhaps not spending it all this summer. A lot is out of management's control and they just need to hope for other people to do things they want them to. That's unsettling. But at least you take your shot.

nychamp wrote:It seems to me that those who opposed Walsh's stated plan from the beginning should be disappointed as Walsh carries it out w/these moves. But if you were on board with the plan, I'm not sure how you can hate the moves. He is doing exactly what he said he would, except for that "remain competitive" part which was definitely goal #2, far behind "ditch as many bad contracts as possible to save up money for shopping spree". And who knows, if TMac can play at 75% and Rodriguez can be a competent point, it would be an improvement and the team might win a few games.

No doubt it's a risky strategy. I would have strongly preferred not to give up the picks. I just hope there are solid plans B, C & D ready to go, including perhaps not spending it all this summer. A lot is out of management's control and they just need to hope for other people to do things they want them to. That's unsettling. But at least you take your shot.

I don't think it's possible to have a plan B, let alone a C and D. That's unless we plan on being the worst team in the world and hope against hope we win the lotto, kinda like we're hoping against hope we win the LeBron sweepstakes. That's because we officially can't do anything else....Unless we want to resign David Lee, Tracy McGrady, Sergio Rodgriguez, and see if you can ever so possibly go for Marcus Camby, and just dive into the next two seasons headfirst and see how it goes.

C-Camby
PF-Lee
SF-Chandler
SG-McGrady
PG-Rodriguez

Gallinari
Douglas
??
??

That certainly warrants Donnie Walsh getting fired. There's not a shadow of doubt about it. Maybe that team can make some noise for a couple of years though.

TMS wrote:we will have 3 assets to deal this summer in a trade if we don't land a bigname FA... Gallo, Wilson & Fat Eddy's expiring deal, if u can even call that an asset... not exactly a ton of ammo to make trades with for top level talent... forget about sign & trade scenarios, it's a waste of time unless you're talking about starphuch options like Elton Brand or ones with huge baggage like Gilbert Arenas.

scary... i could see that happen if there is a shutout. wiz would do it for sure.

TMS wrote:

sidsanders wrote:

TMS wrote:we will have 3 assets to deal this summer in a trade if we don't land a bigname FA... Gallo, Wilson & Fat Eddy's expiring deal, if u can even call that an asset... not exactly a ton of ammo to make trades with for top level talent... forget about sign & trade scenarios, it's a waste of time unless you're talking about starphuch options like Elton Brand or ones with huge baggage like Gilbert Arenas.

scary... i could see that happen if there is a shutout. wiz would do it for sure.

Gilbert Arenas, Joe Johnson & David Lee baby! we goin' ALL IN!!!!

lock your shoes up dg/wc. agent zero might be lurking with a present for you.... that is part of the worst case scenario, which better not happen.

TMS wrote:bro if we trade for Gilbert Arenas after all this time waiting for a guy we can build our franchise around, i'm seriously thinking that maybe my last straw w/this franchise.

that would be an all out thomas move if they resort to agent zero... worst case, worst case... cant happen, must not happen.

technomaster wrote:I have no problems with Arenas, provided that he's not suspended for a huge chunk of next year or spends a great deal of jail time. I actually believe that the time off will do wonders for his knee and ensure it continues to get closer to 100%.

I'm pretty excited about T-Mac. I'm not discounting that he could be back to 90%+ of the player he once was. Let's see where he's at when he finally plays. He could be one of our FA signings...

no to both of those scenarios. this trade cant have been made thinking those are the consolation prizes... 2 older injury plagued guys, one of which is a nut.

tkf wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

tkf wrote:huh?

think about the future.. if lebron stays with cavs, we will be rebuilding the rockets team over the next few years..

loser mentality and negativity. gotta love it.

nah,just being real.. let me ask you. if we don't get our man this summer. will you still feel good about this trade? but hey, i guess we can always sign T-mac.... whoopee!!!

Listen brother
we all know whom FA (two) we want
even if we dont get em' we're getting some good players the next yr beginning this July 2010
and next yr too when Ed Curry $$$ 12 mil approx. comes off knick cap

Melo ? anyone

You cant tell me this will be bad trade dealing L Hughes, J.Jeffries (contract) and J.Hill

Hill is only guy I wish to have kept cause I was for drafting Hill and think he'll be a good
player. Don't know about great player (doubt it)

Come on man, all in all you get TMAC
a 40 or 50 yr TMAC on 1 leg is BETTER than anyone we got and Tmac is only about 30 ?

We have a past allstar (7 times) and some personality and juice.
This is all great and Knicks GOIN nowhere with 30 games left so
trade was super. July 1 is our time we'll be happier then and
I agree TMac will be back next season. He wants NY and NY wants
him.

Plus FA's over next 1 or so will want to come here easier now seeing TMac comments favorably
about NY Knicks. He coulda pressed Rockets Mgt. to go to a winner or playoff team. He didnt.
He wanted us and than means something to this Knick fan.
-regards
DJ