TMS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who the phuck cars if he alienated a few cap fodder players who think they are still in their prime. These guys know they are toast and have also lost heart. Harrington will latch on next year if not traded but Larry is cap space and nothing more. Nate is not some little victim here, he is the idiot servant on a team with no clear leadership.

i phuckin care... i don't like how he's managed this team this season... there has been entirely too much drama where there wasn't any needed... he phucked up Nate's trade value by benching him for 14 games IMO... he also alienated 2 players in Hughes & Darko & failed to play 2 others in Hill & Douglas who i thought could have helped to add some defense to this defensively challenged team... go ahead & kiss his ass til the cows come home, not all of us have to love the way he's handled this team this season... until we get 3 Allstar players in here so MDA can show off his coaching genius i say he's been a disappointment.

Come bro, all coaches need talent (allstars) to win big in this league. With the exception of that Pistons team, show me a team that won a Chip that didnt have one of the top 5 players in the league at the time or 2-3 allstars?

I can understand getting upset if he alienated Chandler, Lee or Gallo, but in the grand scheme of things, is it really a big deal that he didn't hit it off with Darko, who we knew from day one would have no future role on this team? Or Hughes who is cap fodder? Name a coach and we can all name several players that the coach had run is with. Cant keep all 12 guys happy. But, its important to keep the core/future players happy and help them develop. I think MDA has developed Gallo, Chandler and Lee.

Uptown wrote:

TMS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who the phuck cars if he alienated a few cap fodder players who think they are still in their prime. These guys know they are toast and have also lost heart. Harrington will latch on next year if not traded but Larry is cap space and nothing more. Nate is not some little victim here, he is the idiot servant on a team with no clear leadership.

i phuckin care... i don't like how he's managed this team this season... there has been entirely too much drama where there wasn't any needed... he phucked up Nate's trade value by benching him for 14 games IMO... he also alienated 2 players in Hughes & Darko & failed to play 2 others in Hill & Douglas who i thought could have helped to add some defense to this defensively challenged team... go ahead & kiss his ass til the cows come home, not all of us have to love the way he's handled this team this season... until we get 3 Allstar players in here so MDA can show off his coaching genius i say he's been a disappointment.

Come bro, all coaches need talent (allstars) to win big in this league. With the exception of that Pistons team, show me a team that won a Chip that didnt have one of the top 5 players in the league at the time or 2-3 allstars?

I can understand getting upset if he alienated Chandler, Lee or Gallo, but in the grand scheme of things, is it really a big deal that he didn't hit it off with Darko, who we knew from day one would have no future role on this team? Or Hughes who is cap fodder? Name a coach and we can all name several players that the coach had run is with. Cant keep all 12 guys happy. But, its important to keep the core/future players happy and help them develop. I think MDA has developed Gallo, Chandler and Lee.

JVG got the Knicks to a Finals with Spree, Houston, a broken down Patrick Ewing, a past his prime LJ & talented 6th man Marcus Camby... u don't always need top 5 players or a collection of Allstars to win in the NBA... look at the job Rick Adelman & Larry Brown are doing w/their respective teams this year... IMO those are 2 examples of well coached teams... the Knicks are NOT a well coached team & haven't been for a long time now.

it's not a huge deal that he didn't hit it off with Darko, but then why the hell did we bring him here for to begin with? just another waste of a move if u ask me... MDA's been complaining about a lack of defensive intensity all year & he's sitting 4 of our best defensive players on the bench... doesn't make any sense.

& we picked Gallo & Jordan Hill w/consecutive lottery picks & Gallo's had to take a backseat in the offense all year while Hill hasn't gotten any play at all... again, doesn't make any sense to me... if the focus all along was on 2010 then what is he doing playing guys like Fishlips, Duhon & Bender? none of those guys are what you would consider a core guy for 2010... Jordan Hill & TD could have been tho, if they'd gotten a fair chance to show what they could do this year.

TMS wrote:

Uptown wrote:

TMS wrote:

Nalod wrote:Who the phuck cars if he alienated a few cap fodder players who think they are still in their prime. These guys know they are toast and have also lost heart. Harrington will latch on next year if not traded but Larry is cap space and nothing more. Nate is not some little victim here, he is the idiot servant on a team with no clear leadership.

i phuckin care... i don't like how he's managed this team this season... there has been entirely too much drama where there wasn't any needed... he phucked up Nate's trade value by benching him for 14 games IMO... he also alienated 2 players in Hughes & Darko & failed to play 2 others in Hill & Douglas who i thought could have helped to add some defense to this defensively challenged team... go ahead & kiss his ass til the cows come home, not all of us have to love the way he's handled this team this season... until we get 3 Allstar players in here so MDA can show off his coaching genius i say he's been a disappointment.

Come bro, all coaches need talent (allstars) to win big in this league. With the exception of that Pistons team, show me a team that won a Chip that didnt have one of the top 5 players in the league at the time or 2-3 allstars?

I can understand getting upset if he alienated Chandler, Lee or Gallo, but in the grand scheme of things, is it really a big deal that he didn't hit it off with Darko, who we knew from day one would have no future role on this team? Or Hughes who is cap fodder? Name a coach and we can all name several players that the coach had run is with. Cant keep all 12 guys happy. But, its important to keep the core/future players happy and help them develop. I think MDA has developed Gallo, Chandler and Lee.

JVG got the Knicks to a Finals with Spree, Houston, a broken down Patrick Ewing, a past his prime LJ & talented 6th man Marcus Camby... u don't always need top 5 players or a collection of Allstars to win in the NBA... look at the job Rick Adelman & Larry Brown are doing w/their respective teams this year... IMO those are 2 examples of well coached teams... the Knicks are NOT a well coached team & haven't been for a long time now.

it's not a huge deal that he didn't hit it off with Darko, but then why the hell did we bring him here for to begin with? just another waste of a move if u ask me... MDA's been complaining about a lack of defensive intensity all year & he's sitting 4 of our best defensive players on the bench... doesn't make any sense.

& we picked Gallo & Jordan Hill w/consecutive lottery picks & Gallo's had to take a backseat in the offense all year while Hill hasn't gotten any play at all... again, doesn't make any sense to me... if the focus all along was on 2010 then what is he doing playing guys like Fishlips, Duhon & Bender? none of those guys are what you would consider a core guy for 2010... Jordan Hill & TD could have been tho, if they'd gotten a fair chance to show what they could do this year.

As a fan, I agree that Hill and Douglas should have gotten a look much earlier. But from a coaches perspective, I understand the urge to win every single ball game regardless of how good us fans think our team is or isn't. Coaches go with the guys they trust, and even if I disagree, from a coaches stand point I understand. Coaches get fired for losses.

When I mentioned top 5, I meant winning a Chip. Charlotte is just a flat out better team than us with more talent. Are they getting better coaching than the Knicks? Probably so, but good players have a knack for making their coaches look good aswell. Bad players can have a similar effect in a negative way. Seriously, LB came here a year removed from the finals, 2 years removed from a Chip, and I swear he had no clue what he was doing when he was on our sidelines.

TMS wrote:when LB was here he had a private agenda... he didn't do a good job either, but right now in Charlotte he's got a team with 1 Allstar & another talented player who's been cast off from several other teams in the past for his attitude in Stephen Jackson & he's got that team playing much better than expected... if the Knicks had Stephen Jackson he'd be getting alienated by MDA & asking for a trade right about now, u can bet on it.

larry brown is doing the same thing in charlotte that he did in ny, except theres no ridiculous quotes in the media. brown is getting whatever player he wants, he tried doing it here but the fans went nuts and bitched about him wanting crappy players even though they are players that fit his system well. what's the difference between what he's doing and what miked is doing? larry excels coaching his type player and so does miked even though they are vastly different type of players.

brown has NEVER changed and now all the sudden you're saying he's doing a good job? come on.

TMS wrote:

djsunyc wrote:

Knickss208 wrote:Show me the coach that can win with this squad. Cant give Dantoni that much heat.

there is winning and there is going down by 20+ pts in almost every game.

if this team were playing with a little heart, i wouldn't be giving MDA any flack... they're playing like a buncha flea infested dogs with heart worm that got beat & haven't eaten for a week... this team has clearly given up & that happened a long time ago... don't tell me this trade talk is the reason why they're lying down, they gave up because of how things were run around here... guys getting minutes they don't deserve & other guys being jerked around with no explanation from the head coach... MDA did such a great job of pumping up Fishlips' trade value that we're talking about giving away 3 fuggin lottery picks just to dump his ass... & he's done such a great job of developing our youth that now our #8 lottery pick Jordan Hill is an afterthought salary dump throw in... nice

MDA has not done a good job of running this team this season, i'm sorry... all the apologists & ass kissers can try & explain it away by saying no coach can win with this talent, but it's the manner in which they lose games that's very telling... there are guys playing selfish basketball, there is no fight left in them whatsoever, they're just playing out the string & everyone's just looking to get theirs because they know the head coach doesn't have any of them in his future plans & he's made it abundantly clear that he's got his favorites.

TMS
Well said part2
Did anyone see MDA post game ?
He acted like NY Was in the game and lost by 8 or 9 points

His team is So-so about the energy and loss as he shown in
his post game comments. If coach dont care team aint ready
and PG Duhon sux then why would players BUST it ? in games

Think about it forumer's

nyk4ever wrote:

TMS wrote:when LB was here he had a private agenda... he didn't do a good job either, but right now in Charlotte he's got a team with 1 Allstar & another talented player who's been cast off from several other teams in the past for his attitude in Stephen Jackson & he's got that team playing much better than expected... if the Knicks had Stephen Jackson he'd be getting alienated by MDA & asking for a trade right about now, u can bet on it.

larry brown is doing the same thing in charlotte that he did in ny, except theres no ridiculous quotes in the media. brown is getting whatever player he wants, he tried doing it here but the fans went nuts and bitched about him wanting crappy players even though they are players that fit his system well. what's the difference between what he's doing and what miked is doing? larry excels coaching his type player and so does miked even though they are vastly different type of players.

brown has NEVER changed and now all the sudden you're saying he's doing a good job? come on.

if LB was doing the same thing as he was doing in NY, he'd have alienated Stephen Jackson a week after they traded for him... he'd also be fighting with Felton Spencer in the papers & Gerald Wallace would be finding himself in & out of the rotation all season.

LB has done a good job in Charlotte & i challenge u to find a single Bobcats fan to say otherwise.

sebstar wrote:

DJMUSIC wrote:

sebstar wrote:LOL, I was waiting for you after that Bulls ass woopin. You're a lil' late, fam. I was getting concerned, thought something might have happened to you. Was getting ready to call the F.B.I , 'cause I know you never let a loss go by without starting a thread and poppin' loud.

Yea,
oh its you again..
Its cool you accept all this crap play and mediocrity
Quoting JVG, "May be acceptable elsewhere but its never acceptable in NYC"

Going on brother with yo-comments, if you are happy and rah rah about all in Knickerbocker land peace to
you little brother.

TEAM Effort STINKs
not squat you can do or say to stop me from running my mouth about it here on forum.
Could care less whether its liked Or not.

This is our team it stinks, coach aint preparing his team for so-so teams
What else do you want ? If you like it sebstar go & enjoy these last thirtysomething games *LOL

What the hell you gettin' all pissy with me for, fam? You got other cats in this thread basically calling you a GED reject and laughing in your face, and you're trying to spark it with me?

Anyway, I already told you that I am just as frustrated with this squad as you are. Its just you have a habit of making doomsday threads after EVERY loss.

LISTEN up brother
I dont try to comment OR REMARK on every little single thing anothe poster says in forum.
About folks laughing at me I havent seen that. Folks agree to agree OR disagree.

YOUR issue is you look for me and want to come at me for ANYTHING I say negative about Shit Knicks
You dont like it What I'm saying. Cool its your right to however you dont even need to be sitting
like a bird on pearch for evey single post of mines, unless that's your thing brother.

I dont pick fly pepper out of **** for any other posters I dont agree OR disagree with
You say you wait for me
what's up with that ?

I dont get you my man...we're all knick fans.
You dont like my posts then dont bother.

nyk4ever wrote:

TMS wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

TMS wrote:when LB was here he had a private agenda... he didn't do a good job either, but right now in Charlotte he's got a team with 1 Allstar & another talented player who's been cast off from several other teams in the past for his attitude in Stephen Jackson & he's got that team playing much better than expected... if the Knicks had Stephen Jackson he'd be getting alienated by MDA & asking for a trade right about now, u can bet on it.

larry brown is doing the same thing in charlotte that he did in ny, except theres no ridiculous quotes in the media. brown is getting whatever player he wants, he tried doing it here but the fans went nuts and bitched about him wanting crappy players even though they are players that fit his system well. what's the difference between what he's doing and what miked is doing? larry excels coaching his type player and so does miked even though they are vastly different type of players.

brown has NEVER changed and now all the sudden you're saying he's doing a good job? come on.

if LB was doing the same thing as he was doing in NY, he'd have alienated Stephen Jackson a week after they traded for him... he'd also be fighting with Felton Spencer in the papers & Gerald Wallace would be finding himself in & out of the rotation all season.

LB has done a good job in Charlotte & i challenge u to find a single Bobcats fan to say otherwise.

dude i know lb is doing a great job in charlotte, ive been saying it all year, except no one wants to listen apparently. im pretty sure me and bip were the only people that wanted lb to stay here.

im saying he was trying to do the same thing here and he was being bitched at by the fans. i guarentee you he's doing the same things in charlotte that he did here in ny but theres no media down there to blow the things up like they did here. lb wasn't given a chance by the fans of this team.

i don't agree w/u on the job LB did as coach of the Knicks... he asked Isiah to trade for Steve Francis, then after we got him he figures out it won't work & Francis is out of the rotation & asking to be traded again... he fought w/Marbury through the media instead of keeping things in house & created unnecessary drama much in the same way MDA is doing now, only MDA's doing it in a passive aggressive fashion by shrugging off his personal battles by saying he's just trying to win ballgames... LB's rotations made no sense all year long & he was delaying the development of David Lee in much the same fashion that MDA is doing w/Jordan Hill.

& you & Bip were not the only ones who wanted LB to stay, i wanted to dump Marbury the whole time & keep LB but it was obvious LB & Isiah had different agendas here & Isiah was going to ride or die w/Dinglebury.