FireIsiah wrote:If we get joe johnson as our big ticket FA, i am done with this team. I have waited to long for a good team and this is the one summer i am waiting for. i will give up hope if we get JJ.

He would be our 1st big ticket FA, still plenty of time to get our second. It will buy us time if we want to wait for paul or durant and we will be a competitive playoff team until then. Getting johnson and resigning lee isn't ideal, but we should consider it a very successful offseason especially with jeffries and curry still on the books. Plenty of opportunity with those expiring contracts, or after they expire.

Atlanta has a much better team than we do even if you take away Joe Johnson. They have Josh Smith, Horford, Bibby, and this year added Jamal Crawford who is playing great off the bench, and they still won't win the East, let alone the NBA Championship. Joe Johnson isn't the difference maker....he is just a nice part.

BRIGGS wrote:

Cosmic wrote:

Knixkik wrote:

sebstar wrote:

BRIGGS wrote:If we sign JJ--it still doesnt magically give us a C or a PG. We will still be very small and just adding another wing player--were going to have 14 wing players.

It probably makes us a playoff team which would make lil' Jimmy Dolan all moist.

And that would buy us some time to flip Jeffries and Curry's expirings into major player or letting their contracts expire and sign somebody. I dunno what to tell you.

This is exactly where i'm going with this. Still plenty of opportunity and flexibility those expiring contracts will provide us. Signing johnson and resigning lee makes us a good playoff team, and we will have another shot to get something to put us over the top.

Agreed. It may not be our dreams....but...it's not trash either.

I am so happy we got Mike and Donnie here to clean up the trash and put us in a position to build a new winner again.

The 90s glory days are coming back, fellas.

The 90's glory days--are you snorting helium?

LMBAO!

Markji wrote:Joe Johnson is a very good player but he is not a franchise player, and a franchise player is what you really need to win in the NBA. Preferably 2 franchise players.

Atlanta has a much better team than we do even if you take away Joe Johnson. They have Josh Smith, Horford, Bibby, and this year added Jamal Crawford who is playing great off the bench, and they still won't win the East, let alone the NBA Championship. Joe Johnson isn't the difference maker....he is just a nice part.

knickstorrents wrote:He's the type of guy you think you need... you end up signing him for 5 years... he plays here for 2 and we're still trying to figure out why things aren't working out... then year 3 we're all complaining about his contract and how he is untradeable.

We do not need a guy like him. Let's start with the basics and conserve salary for a PG and a defensive C.

SupremeCommander wrote:Joe Johnson is better than he's given credit. He can run an offense and is competent with a ball in his hands. I've been saying since the offseason that he is the most realistic target the Knicks have. With Lee being an All-Star and JJ being the same calibur of a player, I'm okay. There's still room for improvement thought. Curry and Jeffries combined with Chandler/Gallo wil yield and Amare calibur player, as evidenced by the recent deal. So, the Knicks, in one year's time, could have two borderline players and one perrenial All-Star

How this is a OHMYGODTHESKYISFALLING moment, I don't know. The Knicks sign Joe Johnson, it isn't the final piece--just a significant one

Exactly.

I think people have bought way too far into the media hype of LeBron James and act like if we don't land him that Walsh should have just kept Zach and Craw and re-signed Marbury.

Why....I don't know. But it's out there and it has suddenly become a common thought that if we don't get LeBron the Knicks screwed everything up.

Isiah ran the Knicks like a guy who never cleans up his yard after letting his dog out to poop twice a day. Donnie came in and has been shoveling the poop since he got here.

Somehow this is a bad thing to some fans. I don't understand it.

LeBron or NOT this is the path this franchise HAD TO TAKE.

Why people are upset with this I will never get. Are they young and started watching the Knicks the day we traded for Crawful? Are they retarded? I don't know but I don't get it.

Knicks are on the right track LeBron or no LeBron.

BRIGGS wrote:J Johnson turned down 15mm per---is our fallback 2010 plan to pay this guy 17 mm over 5? and then the last 3 years he cant be moved as his skill diminish

4 years $16 M per. Final offer. Take the marketing offers you'll get on the Knicks.

Knixkik wrote:

Markji wrote:Joe Johnson is a very good player but he is not a franchise player, and a franchise player is what you really need to win in the NBA. Preferably 2 franchise players.

Atlanta has a much better team than we do even if you take away Joe Johnson. They have Josh Smith, Horford, Bibby, and this year added Jamal Crawford who is playing great off the bench, and they still won't win the East, let alone the NBA Championship. Joe Johnson isn't the difference maker....he is just a nice part.

He's a nice part exactly, which is why we get him and work on another star such as durant or paul in the future. Johnson, lee, and gallo are all very nice players for a contender, you just need one more guy.

we can't set our sights on acquiring just 1 2nd tier Allstar player every year & expect to build for a championship... this team sacrificed 3 seasons already for the singular goal of landing an elite FA this summer... u can't expect Knicks fans to remain patient for another 3 years hoping we can land guys like Durant or CP3... the Knicks need to have a serious championship contender in place by the summer of 2011 & signing Joe Johnson to the max is not the answer... if waiting another 3-4 years to be good is the only other alternative to landing guys like Lebron, Bosh & Melo in the next 2 years, then this team should just tank & build through the draft like the Oklahoma City Thunder did & assemble a nice talented young team.