loweyecue wrote:To be fair though between Harrington and Hughes they probably chuck as many as T-Mac does. This could be the all time record for number of chucked shots in a single trade.

Cosmic wrote:TMac's EGO was always out of control but you can't chalk up his retarded statements to EGO.

He made those comments because he's an idiot and a jerk.

He also isn't a winner. I don't care what his stats were in his prime. If he was so good why did his teams STINK SO BAD with him dominating/carrying them?

Other stars who carry their teams have winning records.

TMac didn't.

There's a clear cut reason for this: He's a ballhogging arrogant fool who only strived to make himself look good and not his team. He never ever cared about teammates (Except Mike Miller who was probably his boyfriend). He didn't care about them.

"I did my job my teammates don't help me."

I mean, that says it all right there.

He's a loser. He's a stat whore who never won.

He could have been one of the best to ever play the game but his little peanut brain of his prevented that.

That is what separates TMac from Kobe and Jordan. Kobe and Jordan are winners. They are teammates. They are professionals.

TMac is like a little kid that bowled his first strike. He's a mental midget. He's been a loser all his life. And none of his individual stats changes that.

He's a failure, he's an idiot, and he's an asswipe.

I don't understand how some of you guys fall in love with guys like TMac and Arenas. They're total fools. All the talent in the world and the brain of a vegetable.

But these guys can dunk one day in game 82 of a 20-62 season and some of you will leap out of your chair and scream "OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!"

Give me a break.

Come on Cosmic... You know that most of the people are idiots including those who play and those who watch.
And if idiot fans see idiot player they naturally rejoys.

oohah

ramtour420 wrote:wait, wouldn't trading for Tmac hold back our youth from clicking together and developing a team concept(just like the Iverson signing was supposed to do?)

So what is signing two star players do? Isn't that the ultimate plan? So the youth is important to an extent. If the Knicks sign certain players Gallo/wilson/hill/Douglas could be bench guys.

Childs2Dudley wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:wait, wouldn't trading for Tmac hold back our youth from clicking together and developing a team concept(just like the Iverson signing was supposed to do?)

So what is signing two star players do? Isn't that the ultimate plan? So the youth is important to an extent. If the Knicks sign certain players Gallo/wilson/hill/Douglas could be bench guys.

the difference is we'd be happy to do it for 2 star players. tmac hasn't been a star player in years.

The ultimate plan was to trade Eddy and Jared away for expiring contracts. Eddy got in shape then had surgery...Jared is a bum. I think Donnie is looking at T-mac as a fall back plan. T-mac serves no purpose during the off-season...but for the remainder of the season he does. He would have to prove he can still play....then he can be considered a star player. Even at a fraction of his former self T-mac is still a very good player...a legit 2 guard in this league...its interesting and a win/win.

EnySpree wrote:

Childs2Dudley wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

ramtour420 wrote:wait, wouldn't trading for Tmac hold back our youth from clicking together and developing a team concept(just like the Iverson signing was supposed to do?)

So what is signing two star players do? Isn't that the ultimate plan? So the youth is important to an extent. If the Knicks sign certain players Gallo/wilson/hill/Douglas could be bench guys.

the difference is we'd be happy to do it for 2 star players. tmac hasn't been a star player in years.

The ultimate plan was to trade Eddy and Jared away for expiring contracts. Eddy got in shape then had surgery...Jared is a bum. I think Donnie is looking at T-mac as a fall back plan. T-mac serves no purpose during the off-season...but for the remainder of the season he does. He would have to prove he can still play....then he can be considered a star player. Even at a fraction of his former self T-mac is still a very good player...a legit 2 guard in this league...its interesting and a win/win.

I agree. I think the Knicks are looking at TMac to see if he could provide the same function as they wanted to sign Grant Hill to provide.

TMS wrote:T-Mac ain't nothin' but a distraction for Knicks fans for the rest of this season... he's not going to be the guy they hitch their wagon to this summer in free agency.

lets hops he isnt here long term... then walsh is heading down laymas routes...

arkrud wrote:

Come on Cosmic... You know that most of the people are idiots including those who play and those who watch.
And if idiot fans see idiot player they naturally rejoys.

I can be an idiot more often than not and I admit it willingly. TMac on the other hand thinks he's Copernicus or something and then goes and acts and plays like a FOOL.

JayNYC wrote:
JayNYC Here's a question to all the naysayers... Does your reaction, or feelings toward Tracy McGrady being a "long term" Knick change if he is able to stay healthy and regain an elite level of play??

No, because TMac's high level of play alienates his teammates far worse than Harrington could ever do and you lose because of it. It's exactly why his teams have always SUCKED. Cause he's an absolute MORON.

I only want to dump Jeffries contract and in that I'd welcome TMac to come here and chuck his way to another 20 losses in a Knick uni and then cut rights to him this summer. I don't want this clown to play here beyond that. He's a fool.

No, because TMac's high level of play alienates his teammates far worse than Harrington could ever do and you lose because of it. It's exactly why his teams have always SUCKED.

Houston is in the same position with TMac as we were in last year with Marbury. Houston will be lucky to get expirings for him.