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why is gallo more of an untouchable than chandler?
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2/12/2010  12:19 PM
Marv wrote:yay! briggs got a brook lopez reference in!

i wasn't going to say anything but i was thinking the same thing. i still don't get the gushing over brook lopez, his scoring reminds me of the force-feeding that eddy that received a couple years back.

steph curry i will most certainly agree with though.. he was the one guy i really wanted in the draft and he's ballin now. oh well.

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2/12/2010  12:24 PM
Neither of them should be untouchable. Look around the league - Danilo Gallinari and Wilson Chandler are not THAT good.
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2/12/2010  12:34 PM
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2/12/2010  12:34 PM
Juice wrote:I've really never understood this. Most Knicks fans will crap on Chandler way before Gallo when as of right now Chandler is well ahead in development over Gallo. The only thing Gallo does better than Chandler is hit the 3. Light yrs behind Chandler in creating his own offense and finishing at the rim, he's also behind him defensively.

lol WASSup juice....

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2/12/2010  12:39 PM
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s3231 wrote:Not to mention, Gallo has the best +/- on the team, spreads the floor for our offense, and has been holding opposing SF's to an efg % of under 50%.

Wilson has skills and certainly shows promise but I wouldn't mind if we sold high on him and got a piece that could be a bigger part of the future or present. He still gets outproduced by opposing players and while I wouldn't mind holding on to Wilson for longer, I'd move him if I could get a good return on him.

Gallo, in my opinion, is someone who would be a hell of a lot tougher to trade because of how much he is showing us in his 1st full year of playing time.

wilson's first year of PT, he averaged 14.4 pts, 5.4 rebs, 2 asts, and 1 blk and has shown to be able to play 35 mins a game.

I just think it is a matter of upside. I think NY's brass thinks that gallo's all around skillset along with his size will make him a better player down the road.... not that it is a given, but chandler right now is developing skills that gallo has already shown early on... chandler is the better athlete right now.. and I think that may be the only thing he holds over gallo..

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2/12/2010  12:49 PM
Nalod wrote:
Wilsons skill set is more common that the stiff one's.

Gallo can bring somthing few players can do but he has to fulfil the promise.

Kukoc never did and Jordan/Pip hated the guy's hype.

ANd yeah, the guy is white. Isn't that what some of y'all want to hear? The undertones of hating on Dlee and Gallo is pretty obvious by a few.

My take is Wilson is a keeper but if a guy like T-Mac is healthy and we can trade Wilson for a point then we are better for that.

Problem is you can draft these guys, like Minny did with Ellington to play the wing. 6-11 shooters like Gallo are rarer.

Nalod hit it right on the head. We can't replace Gallo as easily as we can replace Chandler. I certainly like Chandler a heckuva lot, and want to keep him. But if letting him go results in Rubio being our PG for the next 6 years, it's a no brainer. Rubio is potentially a once in a generation type player (though limited in scoring potential) and Chandler has a skill set that we can easily replace.

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2/12/2010  12:55 PM
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Juice wrote:I've really never understood this. Most Knicks fans will crap on Chandler way before Gallo when as of right now Chandler is well ahead in development over Gallo. The only thing Gallo does better than Chandler is hit the 3. Light yrs behind Chandler in creating his own offense and finishing at the rim, he's also behind him defensively.

lol WASSup juice....


lol Hollup Hollup!

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2/12/2010  1:00 PM
I don't think we are in a position to trade either player.
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2/12/2010  1:09 PM
Who really cares. We aren't getting anyone in free agency and the team doesn't really care. We are losing Lee because Walsh didn't extend him at 8/9 million which would have made him more than tradeable. Now we have Nate cursing out our couch when he should've been traded at the deadline.

Once Donnie does something up not then we can bring up who is more tradeable. Right now we aren't utlizing either as effectively as we can. Both guys are in space half the time when they should be aggressive. It's amazing how good they can be one night and then just fade into the background another.

ESPN has the Celtics discussing a big baby for dj trade that's something the knicks need to get involved with. And Brook Lopez was the selection over Gallo.

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2/12/2010  1:09 PM
Juice wrote:
tkf wrote:
Juice wrote:I've really never understood this. Most Knicks fans will crap on Chandler way before Gallo when as of right now Chandler is well ahead in development over Gallo. The only thing Gallo does better than Chandler is hit the 3. Light yrs behind Chandler in creating his own offense and finishing at the rim, he's also behind him defensively.

lol WASSup juice....


lol Hollup Hollup!


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2/12/2010  1:14 PM
Gallo is more untouchable for three reasons: (1) Walsh drafted him and he has to justify the pick; (2) Gallo is still just learning the NBA game and we really don't know if we have the next Peja/Dirk or the next Danny Ferry yet; and (3) Gallo would compliment a Lebron more than Chandler. I agree that Chandler is playing lights out right now and if he can develop a 3pt shot over the summer, he will be a 20pt scorer. But I would move Chandler before I moved Gallo.
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2/12/2010  1:28 PM
MS wrote:Who really cares. We aren't getting anyone in free agency and the team doesn't really care. We are losing Lee because Walsh didn't extend him at 8/9 million which would have made him more than tradeable. Now we have Nate cursing out our couch when he should've been traded at the deadline.

Once Donnie does something up not then we can bring up who is more tradeable. Right now we aren't utlizing either as effectively as we can. Both guys are in space half the time when they should be aggressive. It's amazing how good they can be one night and then just fade into the background another.

ESPN has the Celtics discussing a big baby for dj trade that's something the knicks need to get involved with. And Brook Lopez was the selection over Gallo.

LOL, you really think we won't get anyone in FA?

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2/12/2010  1:44 PM
AnubisADL wrote:- Gallo's 7 ft tall
- Gallo blocks shots
- Gallo rebounds
- Gallo has unlimited range
- Gallo is a PF

- Gallo is intelligent, Chandler is dumb as bricks.
- Gallo is a dynamic player, Chandler gets lazy and chucks bricks.
- Gallo is a team player, Chandler tries to get his (and, sure, some of this is due to Harrington chucking, Nate Chucking, Duhon to Lee to Duhon To Lee, so I understand Chandler trying to 'get his' but he chucks like Harrington when it gets to that, and that's dumb.
- Gallo has the tools to be a star player - Chandler is already peaked in terms of skill (but will get more savvy as he gains experience)


There is ONE thing Chandler has over Gallo - and that's health. Gallo could be in a wheelchair in a year for all we know.

But, in the scope of comparing two young players - if you had to make a decision? You keep Gallo because the reward could be SO much higher in the end. Gallo has the ability to be a MUCH better player than Chandler in the end.

Chandler is already a poor man's Tayshaun Prince. Gallo could be Dirk.

So what would YOU choose? Prince or Dirk!?

Yeah....Dirk.

So there is why Gallo is considered more untouchable than Chandler.

Now, just to throw this out there, if both players we have right now - were to never change - were both at their ceilings - well then sure, Chandler is the one you keep.

As with anything there is uncertainty here.

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2/12/2010  1:47 PM
djsunyc wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:- Gallo's 7 ft tall
- Gallo blocks shots
- Gallo rebounds
- Gallo has unlimited range
- Gallo is a PF

if gallo's a PF, then are they not going to re-sign david?

David Lee gets torched as a Center by slow lumbering centers. You think David Lee at PF would be better? LMFAO the guy would give up 50/30 every game.

If we keep David Lee he must play Center for us.

He cannot guard anyone but he SURE as hell can't guard any PF in the game.

Also, that pretty little wide open mid range jump shot he has every game? If he's PF? KISS THAT GOODBYE because PF's will come out to guard him. He gets that shot because centers don't feel comfortable guarding the perimeter.

Lee at PF = disaster.

So, yes, quite possible we see

C-Lee
PF-Gallo
(now we dream)
SF-LeBron
SG-Joe Johnson?
PG-???????

Or, maybe DJ, just maybe we see

C-Bosh
PF-Gallo
SF-LeBron
SG-.....
PG-......

We just don't know....but to pencil Lee in as a PF is suicide. It's already bad enough as a Center.

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2/12/2010  1:48 PM
Anji wrote:LOL, Lbj and Agent Zero would be sooooooo off the wall............ but I would definitely endorse it.

Off the wall as in two clowns chucking shots and playing keep away while fighting for who is the franchise player in the media?

Yeah it'd be off the wall alright.

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2/12/2010  1:49 PM
MS wrote:Who really cares. We aren't getting anyone in free agency and the team doesn't really care.

This line of thinking is ridiculous. Come'on man.

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2/12/2010  1:57 PM
Cosmic wrote:
Anji wrote:LOL, Lbj and Agent Zero would be sooooooo off the wall............ but I would definitely endorse it.

Off the wall as in two clowns chucking shots and playing keep away while fighting for who is the franchise player in the media?

Yeah it'd be off the wall alright.

GILBERT ARENASS IS TRASH.

He's Jamal Crawford + Free Throws + A real SHITTY attitude.

i HAVE been saying that about that clown for some years now..

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2/12/2010  2:05 PM
Is this a reggie evans question?
lol @ being BANNED by Martin since 11/07/10 (for asking if Mr. Earl had a point). Really, Martin? C'mon. This is the internet. I've seen much worse on this site. By Earl himself. Drop the hypocrisy.
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2/12/2010  2:06 PM
tkf wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
Anji wrote:LOL, Lbj and Agent Zero would be sooooooo off the wall............ but I would definitely endorse it.

Off the wall as in two clowns chucking shots and playing keep away while fighting for who is the franchise player in the media?

Yeah it'd be off the wall alright.

GILBERT ARENASS IS TRASH.

He's Jamal Crawford + Free Throws + A real SHITTY attitude.

i HAVE been saying that about that clown for some years now..

Thank God I'm not the only one that sees through him. And what I am seeing through I don't even know. Dude yells HIBACHI and 50,000 kids go ape shyt over him and worship him like a God himself. Give me a break. Dude was never good. A chucker that the League instituted the "touch him and he goes to the line" bit - which bumped his scoring from 20 to 30 a game.

If Jamal Crawford had the league backing he would have the same identical stats as Arenass in his career and be doing it with CLASS. And not to tarnish Crawford that guy has been awesome this season. That's a different story though.

But, no, HIBACHI, and OMG his twitter is SO FUNNY, and OMG his blogs are HILARIOUS.

Know what? No they aren't. They are low brow low intelligence TRASH.

And now with the guns, "Oh come'on GIL just gettin his groove on don't hate on the man."

GIVE ME AN F'ING BREAK. There's nothing funny about guns and you know what, the people who JOKE AROUND WITH GUNS are far more dangerous than those that have them for a purpose be it defense or whatever.

He is a piece of TRASH and if he became a Knick I will stop posting and stop watching games.

But no way Donnie touches that anyway. Donnie was brought in to put an END to players like that. Thank GOD.

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2/12/2010  2:07 PM
Cosmic wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:- Gallo's 7 ft tall
- Gallo blocks shots
- Gallo rebounds
- Gallo has unlimited range
- Gallo is a PF

- Gallo is intelligent, Chandler is dumb as bricks.
- Gallo is a dynamic player, Chandler gets lazy and chucks bricks.
- Gallo is a team player, Chandler tries to get his (and, sure, some of this is due to Harrington chucking, Nate Chucking, Duhon to Lee to Duhon To Lee, so I understand Chandler trying to 'get his' but he chucks like Harrington when it gets to that, and that's dumb.
- Gallo has the tools to be a star player - Chandler is already peaked in terms of skill (but will get more savvy as he gains experience)


There is ONE thing Chandler has over Gallo - and that's health. Gallo could be in a wheelchair in a year for all we know.

But, in the scope of comparing two young players - if you had to make a decision? You keep Gallo because the reward could be SO much higher in the end. Gallo has the ability to be a MUCH better player than Chandler in the end.

Chandler is already a poor man's Tayshaun Prince. Gallo could be Dirk.

So what would YOU choose? Prince or Dirk!?

Yeah....Dirk.

So there is why Gallo is considered more untouchable than Chandler.

Now, just to throw this out there, if both players we have right now - were to never change - were both at their ceilings - well then sure, Chandler is the one you keep.

As with anything there is uncertainty here.

gallo's potential to be dirk is no different than thinking frye was going to be duncan/kg. why cap chandler's potential but not gallo's?

why is gallo more of an untouchable than chandler?

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