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One thing Gallinari must figure out by next year is how to take better shots
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2/1/2010  10:36 AM
djsunyc wrote:gallo as PF? no way no how. the guy doesn't have the power or the quickness to matchup against other pf's. the new era of pf's are athletic. he's not faking anyone out from up top.

Plus his legs are too stiff.

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2/1/2010  11:13 AM
djsunyc wrote:gallo as PF? no way no how. the guy doesn't have the power or the quickness to matchup against other pf's. the new era of pf's are athletic. he's not faking anyone out from up top.

HE Blew by chris bosh twice when he tried to guard him the other day.. I was reading a blog and they even refrenced those two instances...

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2/1/2010  11:14 AM
BasketballJones wrote:
djsunyc wrote:gallo as PF? no way no how. the guy doesn't have the power or the quickness to matchup against other pf's. the new era of pf's are athletic. he's not faking anyone out from up top.

Plus his legs are too stiff.


His shots are flattening out- a classic sign that his legs are not there.

I think he ends up as a PF. He is going to grow and mature- if anyone thinks that this is the body he will have in 4 years you are mistaken.

I don't think his quickness against PFs will be an issue- his strength- upper and lower body is the issue. Maturity will increase his overall strength, but he also has to do some weight work.

If he is usually holding his own in terms of defending SFs- do you think he is going to have a problem regarding "quickness" with PFs?

He has to develop a better game in the post, and learn to take some midrange shots, and not always settle for the 3. Using the backboard and developing a hook shot would be nice, too.

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2/1/2010  11:20 AM
BRIGGS wrote:He had that hot little 4 game streak or he would be shooting under 40% for the year. He's been pretty awful the last 5 games[shooting 33% with an average of 12 shots per game]. You can bank on 4-12 with 8 3 point shots. He's got such good touch and he's 6-11--why doesnt he shoot many more mid range and post shots? Why is he allowed to take so many 3 pointers? Very bad coaching of a young kid.


What are you talking about?

The kid has been outstanding this year (basically his rookie year). He has shown skills that give him a potential chance at stardom.

This is basically a dead leg period for most rookies --- it's even happening to our hapless veterans on this team.

When Gallo settles its partly out of fatigue and partly due to a lack of strength. Those issues will be corrected as he spends more time getting his body up to snuff.

The kid looks much bigger than he did at the start of the season -- his play has been a breath of fresh air. I have ZERO problem with how the coaching staff has played him this year. His evolution of becoming an outstanding all-around player is just a matter of tme and maturity (both physical and mental).

Anybody criticizing what Gallo has brought to the Knicks this year is a knuckle-head and an alarmist.

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2/1/2010  11:20 AM
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BasketballJones wrote:
djsunyc wrote:gallo as PF? no way no how. the guy doesn't have the power or the quickness to matchup against other pf's. the new era of pf's are athletic. he's not faking anyone out from up top.

Plus his legs are too stiff.


His shots are flattening out- a classic sign that his legs are not there.

I think he ends up as a PF. He is going to grow and mature- if anyone thinks that this is the body he will have in 4 years you are mistaken.

I don't think his quickness against PFs will be an issue- his strength- upper and lower body is the issue. Maturity will increase his overall strength, but he also has to do some weight work.

If he is usually holding his own in terms of defending SFs- do you think he is going to have a problem regarding "quickness" with PFs?

He has to develop a better game in the post, and learn to take some midrange shots, and not always settle for the 3. Using the backboard and developing a hook shot would be nice, too.


very good point.... but that gets overlooked.. somehow it is just easier to say he is soft, slow and stiff...
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2/1/2010  11:22 AM
once scouting on the kid comes down...you don't think defenses will know his tendencies and whatnot?

they won't play a PF on him defensively, there's no need to.

secondly, him gaining weight is probably not a good thing b/c of his back.

the guy needs to slim down to increase quickness and not put pressure on his back.

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2/1/2010  11:24 AM
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AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari is a PF and D'Andummy should realize that. Put Gallo in the high post and let him go to work against other PF's.

Not right now. Danilo Gallinari couldn't even post me up and I'm only 5'10" 165. LOL Gallo needs to build his upper body and watch a lot of Dirk Nowitzki tapes. At first I had hopes of Gallo developing into a Hedo Turkoglu/Detlef Schrempf type but he doesn't have that skill set or athleticism.

7 years ago, hedo didn't have the skill set.... And when you say watch a lot of dirk tapes, I hope you are referring to dirk of the last 3 years, becasue before that, the Dirk I knew, took a lot of fadeaway contested one leg shots.. not something you want to teach a young player... It took dirk many years to find his niche... had dirk been on the knicks with the rookie season he had.. I am sure many of you would have called him a bust and written him off.... again, it takes time... surely more than 70 games, before we start defining this kids career..

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2/1/2010  11:25 AM
hedo is a playmaker...i think he's a different player than gallinari.
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2/1/2010  11:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2010  11:28 AM
djsunyc wrote:once scouting on the kid comes down...you don't think defenses will know his tendencies and whatnot?

they won't play a PF on him defensively, there's no need to.

secondly, him gaining weight is probably not a good thing b/c of his back.

the guy needs to slim down to increase quickness and not put pressure on his back.


They may go small on him just like they did with dirk., and as inexperienced as gallo sis now, it really is not working all that well, because he is easily shooting over smaller players... it stifled dirk for a good while.. until he adjusted, and got his team to the finals...

Gallo will have to adjust, good players do that. I am sure he will once that problem surfaces..

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2/1/2010  11:43 AM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2010  11:45 AM
iSergio wrote:
AnubisADL wrote:Gallinari is a PF and D'Andummy should realize that. Put Gallo in the high post and let him go to work against other PF's.

Not right now. Danilo Gallinari couldn't even post me up and I'm only 5'10" 165. LOL Gallo needs to build his upper body and watch a lot of Dirk Nowitzki tapes. At first I had hopes of Gallo developing into a Hedo Turkoglu/Detlef Schrempf type but he doesn't have that skill set or athleticism.

He doesnt need to back anyone down. If he turns and faces he is quick enough to get to the rim because he will take 1 dribble and 2 steps. When he drives from the 3 he has to take way to many dribbles to get to the rim.

I knew he would have a hard time getting off his shot because he he doesn't jump on his 3's.

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2/1/2010  11:43 AM
Forgot to add that there were a number of instances yesterday where he was cutting across the lane down low, and as far as I can recall, he only got the ball once on these cuts.

Now his teammates just may feel his game in the post is not so developed, so they are fearful of giving it to him down low, but he was attempting to do something besides shoot 3s on these plays, and in at least one instance, he was waving his hands for the ball to no avail.

He does need some work, but all in all he has made great strides this year, and you it is obvious to me that the body you see now is not the one you will be seeing in a few years.

Folks make judgments about young players as if the game they play now is the game you will see 4 years from now. Any old posts about D.Lee available where guys were ranting about his offensive limitations as a young player? Lee is a good example of why you have to give young players time to develop and adapt, and in some cases, to physically mature.

Gallo is a smart kid. He has made some changes in his game this year on O, and really come around on the defensive end. He just needs time to grow physically and learn through experience.

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2/1/2010  11:52 AM
NYKBocker wrote:Gallo needs a PG that will actually set him up or at least look his way once in awhile. Gallo's development or lack thereof is all on Dudu. He is rushing his shots or taking too many 3s because Dudu never looks his way.


You must be watching the games.......... Cause you are spot on!!


By the time Gallo touches the ball he rushes to shoot!!

Real PG = better results

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2/1/2010  11:54 AM
The only thing Gallo needs to figure is how to shoot a mid-range jumper. It is either a 3 or a shot 2 feet from the basket.
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2/1/2010  11:56 AM
It's not how much he weighs but how his weight is distributed. He needs a stronger, more explosive base and more core strength for the post. Contrary to all the armchair scouts Gallo isn't slow or stiff. He has a stiff looking gate running the floor but he moves very well when he needs to. He's shown quick hands, decent rebounding, smart defense and some toughness. Pretty happy with his progress.

I want to see him continue to develop the midrange game and drive a bit more.

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2/1/2010  12:19 PM    LAST EDITED: 2/1/2010  6:42 PM
djsunyc wrote:once scouting on the kid comes down...you don't think defenses will know his tendencies and whatnot?

they won't play a PF on him defensively, there's no need to.

secondly, him gaining weight is probably not a good thing b/c of his back.

the guy needs to slim down to increase quickness and not put pressure on his back.

What an astute observation by DJ, put a quick sf on him and he gets defensed easy ala Caron Butler the other night when he harassed gallo on the perimiter by slapping at the ball in his hands.

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2/1/2010  4:59 PM
nixluva wrote:It's not how much he weighs but how his weight is distributed. He needs a stronger, more explosive base and more core strength for the post. Contrary to all the armchair scouts Gallo isn't slow or stiff. He has a stiff looking gate running the floor but he moves very well when he needs to. He's shown quick hands, decent rebounding, smart defense and some toughness. Pretty happy with his progress.

I want to see him continue to develop the midrange game and drive a bit more.

isn't it a little hypocritical to be dissing on the armchair scouts when you're doing the exact same thing everyone else is by analyzing his game?

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2/1/2010  5:02 PM
djsunyc wrote:hedo is a playmaker...i think he's a different player than gallinari.

i think Hedo's more fluid off the dribble but i've seen Gallo make some nice passes to Lee & Chandler off his dribble drive also.

right now Gallo looks better to me when he's driving to the hole than when he's dribbling at the top of the key for 5 seconds & stepping back for the 3.

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One thing Gallinari must figure out by next year is how to take better shots

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