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CrushAlot
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1/31/2010 2:11 AM

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The vets shouldn't be playing that much because they are all expiring and hopefully not a part of the teams future. The only guy that should be getting minutes over Hill and Douglas is Jeffries in the hopes that some foolish team will take on his obscene contract. GMs know what Harrington, Lee, Nate, Duhon, and Hughes can do on the court and how they can help their salary cap for next year. The rotation since December has been based on placating D'Antoni's ego. If he coached like Adelman he could have this team in the playoffs. However, as a system coach his rigidity has failed him and the fans this year.

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1/31/2010 8:00 AM

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Cosmic wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
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Doesn't confuse me. With this roster I think he's their best option. I don't think Nate or TD are better options at PG.
Duhon at least attempts to play the position. With Nate and TD playing a lot of pg I see little to no hope of playing team ball.
Well, yeah, unfortunately Duhon is our best option at PG. Doesn't mean he has to play more than 25 minutes though does it? This system allows for a point forward. Gallo is a point forward. So is Lee.
So why don't we just play the triangle on offense = no need of true pg
No damn clue.
I got no idea.

It's not that easy to introduce an offense mid-season. Who on the team is familiar with it and when has the coach ever coached it. Also do we really have the players to succeed with it? What team that succeeds with the triangle are you comparing us to?

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1/31/2010 8:09 AM

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Cosmic wrote:
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Doesn't confuse me. With this roster I think he's their best option. I don't think Nate or TD are better options at PG.
Duhon at least attempts to play the position. With Nate and TD playing a lot of pg I see little to no hope of playing team ball.
Well, yeah, unfortunately Duhon is our best option at PG. Doesn't mean he has to play more than 25 minutes though does it? This system allows for a point forward. Gallo is a point forward. So is Lee.

I think Gallo might have the ability to be a point forward but he hasn't played that role this year. He's essentially a rookie and I don't think you can expect him to be able to take over that role at this point in the year having never done it with this team. Lee has really improved this part of his game but I don't think you're going to get away with Lee running the offense for 20+ minutes a game with guys like Harrington and Nate who can get totally out of control with their shot selection.

I don't like Duhon being our primary PG but I think people are thinking any change is for the better and I don't believe it. There may be some way to limit his minutes but I think it's hard with this roster. Hopefully MDA will find a way to get more out of him or find a way for the team to not need him to play as much.

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1/31/2010 2:24 PM

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If duhon wakes the fck up from his booze nap, we could beat anybody..bottom line.

This guy is like 2 for 100 from down town... It's that simple and, if boykins had to be signed, what exactly does that say about mike james.

I'll tell you what he says..it's telling me the same ol story like al, and hughs, left for dead on the bench cause they think there better then are, selfish, and can't play consistant ball, make stupid costly mistakes, and don't know how to win..

Hughs really kills me, cause he has better sense then Al. But lacks major confidence in the worse way.

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1/31/2010 2:29 PM

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Ride the youngins... try to trade Jeffries to Washington where there might be some interest, as he was a part of the last good team they had. Try to get picks for Nate and Harrington... possibly Duhon too for a team needing PG depth

AND PLAY THE YOUNGINS

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1/31/2010 2:52 PM

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Basically, the only way we make the playoffs is with a trade. If Walsh can find some solid players on expiring contracts who can infuse some life into this group, we might be able to go on a run. But as the team currently stands, I doubt we can play .500 ball, which is what we would need to do to slide into the playoffs.

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2/3/2010 5:43 PM

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we need to go 23W-12L the rest of the way to get to .500 to even have a sniff of a shot to make the playoffs.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.

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2/3/2010 5:50 PM

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playa2 wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
OldFan wrote:
Doesn't confuse me. With this roster I think he's their best option. I don't think Nate or TD are better options at PG.
Duhon at least attempts to play the position. With Nate and TD playing a lot of pg I see little to no hope of playing team ball.
Well, yeah, unfortunately Duhon is our best option at PG. Doesn't mean he has to play more than 25 minutes though does it? This system allows for a point forward. Gallo is a point forward. So is Lee.
So why don't we just play the triangle on offense = no need of true pg

cause we dont have Jordan/Pippen/Shaq/Kobe/Gasol

Why dont we just play harder and score more and defend better????? It must be the coach?

What you see is what you get, but that has a way of changing in the NBA doesnt it?

What the Knicks need is a hot streak, and possibly some help. Maybe the help comes from within (Hill? Douglas? Does Hughes have another stretch in him like he had in Dec?). Maybe there is a trade and we get help from the outside.

Right now 5% is fine. If we play well for 2 weeks and win 6 of the next 7 does that change?

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2/3/2010 7:18 PM

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fishmike wrote:
playa2 wrote:
Cosmic wrote:
OldFan wrote:
Doesn't confuse me. With this roster I think he's their best option. I don't think Nate or TD are better options at PG.
Duhon at least attempts to play the position. With Nate and TD playing a lot of pg I see little to no hope of playing team ball.
Well, yeah, unfortunately Duhon is our best option at PG. Doesn't mean he has to play more than 25 minutes though does it? This system allows for a point forward. Gallo is a point forward. So is Lee.
So why don't we just play the triangle on offense = no need of true pg

cause we dont have Jordan/Pippen/Shaq/Kobe/Gasol
Why dont we just play harder and score more and defend better????? It must be the coach?
What you see is what you get, but that has a way of changing in the NBA doesnt it?
What the Knicks need is a hot streak, and possibly some help. Maybe the help comes from within (Hill? Douglas? Does Hughes have another stretch in him like he had in Dec?). Maybe there is a trade and we get help from the outside.
Right now 5% is fine. If we play well for 2 weeks and win 6 of the next 7 does that change?

Fishmike I got to believe you would present better rotations than danphoney.

Well with dolan still at the helm there will always be some sort of internal politics on why some play and some don't.

To be a fly on the wall. Oh I forgot how ex-knick say too many politics when it comes to playing time playing for the knicks- CHANNING FRYE

JAMES DOLAN on Isiah : He's a good friend of mine and of the organization and I will continue to solicit his views. He will always have strong ties to me and the team.

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2/4/2010 8:35 AM

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What are the knocks on the rotations? What are the politics? And why are you talking about Channing Frye who hasnt been a Knick for 2+ years? The rotation is 7-8 guys. MDA doesnt play 10. So where is the beef? With Hughes? Who was shooting about 20% over the last 10 games before he got benched? With Nate? Shooting at his own basket? With Hill and Douglas? What exactly have they done again to merit a block of playing time?

The only guy you can question is Duhon, and we dont have any other PGs on this roster.

Knicks win its OK. Knicks lose it must be the rotations and the coaching. Its old