GodSaveTheKnicks wrote:seriously. questionable shot selection sure. but i dunno if he's a loudmouth piece of trash.

you watch that washington series where he went toe to toe with lebron? he's like monta ellis with disgusting range and giant crunchtime balls.

that being said no way would i want to pay him and deal with those multiple knee injuries and the fact that he was playing with Jamison and Butler and his team still sucked is a bit disturbing. dunno if that really says anything about Butler and Jamison as well or that the team in general is a mess.

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...then even after he gets caught with the guns what does he do? Yep, spouts off like no one can touch him cause he's so great.

Yeah, he's a loud mouth fool.

I wouldn't even want him for FREE.

Why? He's an idiot and a loser. Giving Arenas the keys to your team is a disaster. He'll get his 30 on 30 shots and your team will win 25 games.

This is what we want? Really? After all we've gone through to drop Layden and Isiah and their mistakes. Now we want Gilbert Arenas?

I don't f'ing think so.

he got drafted 31st in 2001 after a lot of guys he's way better than. i don't think you become as good as he is without a high level of intensity.

i don't know if it's fair to take this gun incident and say he's a complete waste of oxygen.

TMS wrote:

klintorious wrote:Cosmic,

You wouldn't take Gil on the cheap?

Gil will be looking for redemption at a prorated salary......Anyone remember this guy?

no offense, but that's an insult to Spree to compare Arenas to him... Arenas is a goofball, arrogant, & lacks any type of intensity... he's a tremendously talented basketball player with a pee for a brain... Spree played with passion, intensity, aggression & worked hard on both ends of the floor... he was a model teammate & played smart basketball on the floor as well... his sin was 1 moment of anger that he severely regretted... Arenas is a life long knucklehead... his sins are a pattern of irresponsible & moronic behavior that he's demonstrated throughout his career & he won't change his ways... that's his personality... to invest a longterm big money deal on him would be foolishness of the highest degree.

I disagree. Latrell Sprewell was no angel when he was with Golden State. Spree had terrible shot selection and did not play hard all the time. I remember Chris Mullin and Spree having a little argument about this. He also chased Jerome Kersey with a 2x4. Spree was more of a headcase than Gilbert Arenas has ever been. But I just don't get all the negativity with Arenas. He's a very smart basketball player imo. He's not that athletic or that talented to be honest, yet he's a master at getting to the line and he's very clutch. And he's an extremely hardworker. A gym rat. There have been countless stories on the guy's work ethic and how he shoots hundreds of shots in an empty gym.

iSergio wrote:

TMS wrote:

klintorious wrote:Cosmic,

You wouldn't take Gil on the cheap?

Gil will be looking for redemption at a prorated salary......Anyone remember this guy?

no offense, but that's an insult to Spree to compare Arenas to him... Arenas is a goofball, arrogant, & lacks any type of intensity... he's a tremendously talented basketball player with a pee for a brain... Spree played with passion, intensity, aggression & worked hard on both ends of the floor... he was a model teammate & played smart basketball on the floor as well... his sin was 1 moment of anger that he severely regretted... Arenas is a life long knucklehead... his sins are a pattern of irresponsible & moronic behavior that he's demonstrated throughout his career & he won't change his ways... that's his personality... to invest a longterm big money deal on him would be foolishness of the highest degree.

I disagree. Latrell Sprewell was no angel when he was with Golden State. Spree had terrible shot selection and did not play hard all the time. I remember Chris Mullin and Spree having a little argument about this. He also chased Jerome Kersey with a 2x4. Spree was more of a headcase than Gilbert Arenas has ever been. But I just don't get all the negativity with Arenas. He's a very smart basketball player imo. He's not that athletic or that talented to be honest, yet he's a master at getting to the line and he's very clutch. And he's an extremely hardworker. A gym rat. There have been countless stories on the guy's work ethic and how he shoots hundreds of shots in an empty gym.

i don't doubt Arenas works hard in the gym on his shooting... when was the last time u saw him work hard on the defensive side of the ball in a game tho? Spree brought it on both ends, which is why Knick fans liked him so much, & his intensity was infectious... that's a big part of the reason why Knick fans liked him over someone like Allan Houston (i actually liked Allan more than Spree but both of them were favorites of mine).

& i disagree w/u on Spree being more of a headcase... Spree's got anger management issues, it's clear, but all i know is he was well liked in NY by the fans & his teammates... he did nothing to alienate himself to the NY fanbase until the Knicks fined him for not reporting his broken hand one offseason & accusing him of breaking it in a fight when he said he broke it slipping on his yacht... after that he got traded to Minny in a 4 team deal for KVH & he came back to openly curse James Dolan for how they treated him at MSG in his first game back... he can't keep his emotions in check off the floor, but he was always serious on the court & gave it his all... i'll take Spree in his prime over Gilbert Arenas any day of the week & twice on Sundays.

Arenas is viewed as a selfish & irresponsible moron in the DC area & just about everyone around here is fed up with his antics... the Wizards were stupid to sign him to that ridiculous contract, he was never worth that type of money to begin with even w/o the moronic antics.

I still think some of you are selling Gilbert Arenas way too short. Yes, he made a stupid mistake. He knows it. He even asked David Stern to suspend him for the season. He's not perfect. But he's a hell of a basketball player. Dude scored 60 points on Kobe Bryant at his house for God sake! He went bucket for bucket against LeBron James in the Playoffs. He's super clutch and competative. He's not a great one the ball defender but he's always averaging 2+ steals. Some of these negative comments make him out to be Stephon Marbury and he's not. He's bounced back from failures and disappointments all his life. Like I've said, I wouldn't trade for him with his current contract but if we can get that type of player for cheap, you have to be crazy not to want him. Arenas if healthy is a 25/5/5/2 player. Come on now! These type of players are not easy to acquire!

iSergio wrote:Latrell Sprewell was a different player and person with New York than he was with Golden State. He matured.

I still think some of you are selling Gilbert Arenas way too short. Yes, he made a stupid mistake. He knows it. He even asked David Stern to suspend him for the season. He's not perfect. But he's a hell of a basketball player. Dude scored 60 points on Kobe Bryant at his house for God sake! He went bucket for bucket against LeBron James in the Playoffs. He's super clutch and competative. He's not a great one the ball defender but he's always averaging 2+ steals. Some of these negative comments make him out to be Stephon Marbury and he's not. He's bounced back from failures and disappointments all his life. Like I've said, I wouldn't trade for him with his current contract but if we can get that type of player for cheap, you have to be crazy not to want him. Arenas if healthy is a 25/5/5/2 player. Come on now! These type of players are not easy to acquire!

what's "cheap" to you? to me, $10 mil per is not cheap... that's a lotta money to pay a guy who just got suspended for a multiple offense for the same crime & is now facing possible jail time... Stephon Marbury was a helluva basketball player too, but we made a huge mistake taking on his contract in that trade... so what if Arenas dropped 60 on Kobe?... Jamal dropped 50 on Wade & he's super clutch too, would u wanna sign him up to a longterm extension? there are bigger things to consider here than just Arenas' talent & ability... how would he fit a team predicated on team play? how would adding a guy w/head issues like him make sense for a coach like MDA who's so damn allergic to anyone who isn't a robot? how would James Dolan feel about adding Arenas? how would Donnie Walsh feel about scrapping his 2010 plan for a player like Arenas? it's not happening, no sense in fantasizing about it.

iSergio wrote:The evil comment wasn't directed at you TMS - it was more directed at Cosmic, who seems to hate Gilbert Arenas for whatever reason. LOL

He sucks. He's over rated. He's a chucker who only has a decent PPG average because of bumped up FTs thanks to the NBA's desire to make him a star.

He's not funny. He's not witty. His blog sucks. The whole "Hibachi" thing was retarded. He threatened a teammate with guns. Three times even. He shat in a teammates shoe.

He is a piece of trash.

"whatever reason"

Yeah, I think those are enough reasons to hate him.

Anyone who likes this clown or says "Aw man, GIL is just fooling around. Stop hating" needs their head checked. Preferably with a baseball bat.

BasketballJones wrote:Sprewell matured?

Was he ever as bad as was made out to be? I think that is part of it.

And we all know Carlisemo isn't a saint either and likely fueled that incident.

What I'm still laughing at is when Spree ran his yacht aground in Lake Michigan (I think it was Michigan) and the cops came to check it out and then left him there overnight because it was low tide and there was nothing to be done. (The great lakes have tides? I guess they do).

That thing was eventually confiscated I think...cause he went broke. How the hell do you go broke making 10M a year playing basketball. LOL