Finestrg wrote:

s3231 wrote:If I'm a free agent, playing with Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, and Amare in Brooklyn is as appealing as any other option. Not to mention, the Nets have such a bad record that even if they trade for Amare they have essentially locked themselves into a top 3 pick in a strong draft.

People have this belief that the Knicks will automatically be at the top of every free agent's wish list. If you look at this situation objectively though, you will see that we (as a fanbase) have a lot to be concerned about if the Nets get Amare.

Yeah, I gotta agree with S3231 on this. If they ever got Amar'e on top of the other things they'll have to offer, that's suddenly a very attractive destination for a guy like LeBron. Even without Amar'e, they are huge competition for us in the LeBron sweepstakes. Getting Amar'e would only up the ante and give LeBron even more incentive to sign there. If they got Amar'e and then added James they instantly go from worst to first in the eastern conference, Celtics style. Easily.

5 - Brook Lopez
4 - Amar'e Stoudemire
3 - LeBron James
2 - Chris Douglas-Roberts
1 - Devin Harris
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Josh Boone (A capable backup center)
Terrance Williams (Not having a great year but he's a big strong 2 - he'll eventually find himself)
Keyon Dooling (A very good backup PG, one of the league's best)
Kris Humphries (Limited skill but a great hustler, good role player)

Fellas that's a 65 win team (probably even better) with a great chance for a title. Probably many titles...No question about it. And to think, if I did the math correctly and the cap does move up to $57-58 million, they might have another $4-5 million to add additional firepower to what you see above. The Nets very easily could put this together. For those that are dismissing the Nets in this LeBron thing, think again. Especially if this Amar'e trade ever went down. If Jersey got Amar'e, I'd say they automatically leapfrog over us as destination #1 for LBJ if he decided to skip out on Cleveland. Who knows - they might be ahead of us already.

thats a very scary team right there

Moreover, with the Nets moving to Brooklyn, he would not have to play in Jersey too long.

WindsorPl wrote:

EnySpree wrote:

Finestrg wrote:

s3231 wrote:If I'm a free agent, playing with Devin Harris, Brook Lopez, and Amare in Brooklyn is as appealing as any other option. Not to mention, the Nets have such a bad record that even if they trade for Amare they have essentially locked themselves into a top 3 pick in a strong draft.

People have this belief that the Knicks will automatically be at the top of every free agent's wish list. If you look at this situation objectively though, you will see that we (as a fanbase) have a lot to be concerned about if the Nets get Amare.

Yeah, I gotta agree with S3231 on this. If they ever got Amar'e on top of the other things they'll have to offer, that's suddenly a very attractive destination for a guy like LeBron. Even without Amar'e, they are huge competition for us in the LeBron sweepstakes. Getting Amar'e would only up the ante and give LeBron even more incentive to sign there. If they got Amar'e and then added James they instantly go from worst to first in the eastern conference, Celtics style. Easily.

5 - Brook Lopez
4 - Amar'e Stoudemire
3 - LeBron James
2 - Chris Douglas-Roberts
1 - Devin Harris
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2010 lottery pick
Josh Boone (A capable backup center)
Terrance Williams (Not having a great year but he's a big strong 2 - he'll eventually find himself)
Keyon Dooling (A very good backup PG, one of the league's best)
Kris Humphries (Limited skill but a great hustler, good role player)

Fellas that's a 65 win team (probably even better) with a great chance for a title. Probably many titles...No question about it. And to think, if I did the math correctly and the cap does move up to $57-58 million, they might have another $4-5 million to add additional firepower to what you see above. The Nets very easily could put this together. For those that are dismissing the Nets in this LeBron thing, think again. Especially if this Amar'e trade ever went down. If Jersey got Amar'e, I'd say they automatically leapfrog over us as destination #1 for LBJ if he decided to skip out on Cleveland. Who knows - they might be ahead of us already.

thats a very scary team right there

Yup, provided Devin stays healthy.

And I forgot about the lottery pick for a sec.

http://www.azcentral.com/arizonarepublic/sports/articles/2010/01/27/20100127suns-stoudemire.html

Story from Phoenix paper on Amare. Just doesn't really seem like a guy I'd be happy to see the Knicks max out.

Granted, his attitude or rep is not a secret in the league so I don't know what his trade value is, or what his salary demands will be. HE is leaving a one year 17mil on the table.

I would imagine Amare's and his agent will prenegotiate a deal as a condition to a trade. Or at least that's what Id do if I was looking to bring him in.

If MDA don't want him, I don't want him.

I would think the nets would be a good fit for him.

djsunyc wrote:maybe the steam was caused by the heat...

Beginning Of The End?: Yesterday was filled with a lot of chatter about Phoenix's Amar'e Stoudemire with multiple league sources suggesting that a deal with Phoenix and Miami was getting very close and that Stoudemire would ultimately end up in South Beach as a part of a deal in which Miami would send the expiring contract of Jermaine O'Neal to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire and possibly Leandro Barbosa.

As of last night there was no deal imminent with anyone, according to well-placed and informed sources, however in the fourth quarter versus the Mavericks, Stoudemire was benched for the entire fourth quarter.

HoopsWorld Article Jan 29th

damn o'neal for stoudamire AND barbosa? I'll gladly send them harrington/hughes/nate for stoudamire and barbosa

atleast with that deal the suns get 3 players that will help them out this year, unlike jo'neal

martin wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

djsunyc wrote:maybe the steam was caused by the heat...

Beginning Of The End?: Yesterday was filled with a lot of chatter about Phoenix's Amar'e Stoudemire with multiple league sources suggesting that a deal with Phoenix and Miami was getting very close and that Stoudemire would ultimately end up in South Beach as a part of a deal in which Miami would send the expiring contract of Jermaine O'Neal to Phoenix in exchange for Stoudemire and possibly Leandro Barbosa.

As of last night there was no deal imminent with anyone, according to well-placed and informed sources, however in the fourth quarter versus the Mavericks, Stoudemire was benched for the entire fourth quarter.

HoopsWorld Article Jan 29th

damn o'neal for stoudamire AND barbosa? I'll gladly send them harrington/hughes/nate for stoudamire and barbosa

atleast with that deal the suns get 3 players that will help them out this year, unlike jo'neal

jo'neal can't be the only piece going to PHO. no way. I mean, why bother if you are PHO?

you're probably right, if thats the case, what does miami have that would really sweeten the deal? daquan cook or dorrell wright? personally i think harrington/nate/hughes gives the suns 3 rotation guys that would make an impact on their playoff run. moreso than anyone the heat might send them.

djsunyc wrote:i would think beasley's included...

you think so? im not saying you're wrong but.. why would the heat send them a guy like beasely when they could just sign amar'e outright in the summer?