SupremeCommander wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

sebstar wrote:Is that quote real, Briggs?

Wow, what a sad, train-wreck this guy is. Its obvious this cat has some sort of mental imbalance. We have a nice, young wing player in Chandler that would look great in a Wolves uni. Lee, Hill, wtf is he talking about when he asks what could we propose?

Why is he talking so reckless, with that mess of a roster he's got? In the meantime his best commodity is over in Europe doing anything possible to avoid Minnesota while constantly shytting on Kahn in the process.

I want to slap the taste out this fool Jersey Shore style. He's getting out of line. Comes across like a petulant child.

lol mental imbalance.. probably not too far off. this guy has done an absolute whack job so far and he wants to start dissing the knicks roster? that mishmosh of **** in minny just got beat down tonight.

In fairness, sometimes teams make comments like that when a trade is imminent.

Not to mention, he told his fanbase he drafted Rubio with the intent of extracting maximum value for him, either in a Wolves uni, or by getting someone to pull an Isiah Thomas

He could have accomplished that without trashing our roster and acting indignant at the mere prospect of trading with us.

sebstar wrote:

SupremeCommander wrote:

nyk4ever wrote:

sebstar wrote:Is that quote real, Briggs?

Wow, what a sad, train-wreck this guy is. Its obvious this cat has some sort of mental imbalance. We have a nice, young wing player in Chandler that would look great in a Wolves uni. Lee, Hill, wtf is he talking about when he asks what could we propose?

Why is he talking so reckless, with that mess of a roster he's got? In the meantime his best commodity is over in Europe doing anything possible to avoid Minnesota while constantly shytting on Kahn in the process.

I want to slap the taste out this fool Jersey Shore style. He's getting out of line. Comes across like a petulant child.

lol mental imbalance.. probably not too far off. this guy has done an absolute whack job so far and he wants to start dissing the knicks roster? that mishmosh of **** in minny just got beat down tonight.

In fairness, sometimes teams make comments like that when a trade is imminent.

Not to mention, he told his fanbase he drafted Rubio with the intent of extracting maximum value for him, either in a Wolves uni, or by getting someone to pull an Isiah Thomas

He could have accomplished that without trashing our roster and acting indignant at the mere prospect of trading with us.

I'm not arguing, just presenting the other side

Part of the reason he is so indignant is because he getting ramrodded into a deal and likely will only get what the Knicks give. He's dumb enough where he may just hold onto him a la Fran Vazquez

I'm willing to bet he'll only play for NY, LA, or Chi, with outside shots at places like Miami, Dallas, Houston, or Toronto

Paladin55 wrote:

nixluva wrote:Yeah I hated his draft and didn't understand it at all. Apart from the fact that he messed up the rest of the draft, his team building made no sense, cuz with that many high picks he could've set his team up with better balance and a good talent level. This guy is just a mess IMO.

He could have had Curry, Hill, Caspi, Blair, etc. on his roster this year.

Big time screw up by a guy in complete denial.

It was so bad what I think happened is Rubio called the team immediately thereafter and screamed, "NOT A CHANCE IN HELL"

which is why they really drafted two PGs

I've always felt that he "insulted" Rubio by picking Flynn up at #5, and set the wheels in motion that would keep Ricky in Spain. What kind of contact did he have with Rubio or his agent about Rubio playing in Minny BEFORE the draft??

There were a number of guys he could have taken. He had picks 5, 6, 18, 28, 45, and 47 in the draft and all he ends up with on the court this year are Flynn and Ellington? Did he do a thorough evaluation of Jefferson's "recovery" prior to the draft? Did he think that the Jefferson/Love combo would be able to compete with the other other big men in the West? Was he satisfied with what he had at SG and SF? Ultimately, he ended up with an undersized PG and an undersized SG to go with a gimpy Jefferson and the undersized Love.

When UK did its mock draft prior to the actual draft, why do you think Briggs took Minnesota? And he wanted them before they traded for Washington's pick. He was in love with who they could pick up in the slots they originally had.

And why do you have to believe that he is creating a "market for his asset?" Maybe he is just a fool who really believed that Rubio and Flynn could play in the same backcourt- which is what he said after the draft- and is now trying to cover his ass. He can say whatever he wants to the public- but who really knows the reasons for what he did?

To me this was an underrated draft, and Minny had the best set of picks to really take advantage and pick up some nice players.

Kahn did not do a good job for his team, IMO, no matter how you look at the situation.

Allanfan20 wrote:Phar, this isnt even in the same league as Vujanic. He was picked somewhere in the second round! Rubio is the first round pick of a team that is rebuilding and is in great need of these young players to come in and perform. If Walsh did this, we would start calling for his head and he would never hear the end of it.

And since when do the Minny fans know anything about Wilson Chandler? Chances are that most of them see him twice a year!

Kahn doesnt have any upper hand. He messed up bad and is either delusional or talking delusional to preserve his job, just as Isiah and Scott Layden always did.

MINNY HAS had some real good picks, and not really a bunch of hard choices.. Ok, first of all, they mucked up the brandon roy draft.. BADLY, could have had roy, so I will just leave that one alone..

last year, they had mayo and traded him for love? why? I like love, but honestly, does he project to be anything better than brad miller in his prime? their games and athletic ability are very, very similar... Mayo had a buzz, has a following, can sell tickets, and had a NBA ready game... explosive scorer and can play both guard positions.. Could have at least made some of the minny fans forget about not getting Brandon Roy... That trade was a mess.. and honestly, I am suprised love was picked that high..

then this past draft.. It seems like they reached a bit for flynn... they could have easily played it safe and at worst had Jordan hill and steph curry... a little risker, they could have had Hill and jennings.. And i mean where they picked, these guys would have been legit picks...

they could have had a core of mayo, Hill, and curry or jennings, along with big Al...

right now, they have flynn, love, who looks fat and slow and rubio hiding over seas... not good work if you ask me..

Pharzeone wrote:

Allanfan20 wrote:Phar, this isnt even in the same league as Vujanic. He was picked somewhere in the second round! Rubio is the first round pick of a team that is rebuilding and is in great need of these young players to come in and perform. If Walsh did this, we would start calling for his head and he would never hear the end of it.

And since when do the Minny fans know anything about Wilson Chandler? Chances are that most of them see him twice a year!

Kahn doesnt have any upper hand. He messed up bad and is either delusional or talking delusional to preserve his job, just as Isiah and Scott Layden always did.

Minny and NY have different type of fan bases. The guy just got there after years of crap produce by McHale. The guy values Rubio pretty high and this is just the risk of drafting players from overseas they have options. Rubio isn't going anywhere so why is it a problem for them? It's not like anyone was expecting those guys to compete for a title this season. I mean you guys are acting like they are over the cap and their owner is foaming at the mouth to win right now. I think he is very comfortable with the situation to tell the truth. Why settle on Chandler when he can go into draft night and have all other possibilities.

True, but how about compete period? at some point, using the excuse that we are young and rebuilding gets old after so many years.. I mean minny was a team which not that long ago had marbury, garnett and googs. A team that was not far from the WCF with garnett and spree..

When rebuilding the key is to improve? they are not improving at all, and their lottery pick is playing overseas.. that is not good work.. Look at the thunder, clear plan. get picks, draft well, improve, compete and one day contend.. well it seems like they are on track... heck you can say the same with the grizzlies.. at some point, the young talent has to produce. if not, what are they really worth?

Why settle on Chandler when he can go into draft night and have all other possibilities.

what would having chandler have to do with their draft? getting chandler, or a guy like chandler, a young player who is steadily improving is a step in the right direction. He fills a need, a two way player who is young, good and improving... but it is all a process and it has to start somewhere.. You just can't get drafting lottery picks, trading picks, trading players, have players never come over, and develop a winning team... They may never be over the cap, but I also doubt they will ever be any good continuing on their current pace..