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sebstar
Posts: 25698 Alba Posts: 4 Joined: 6/2/2002 Member: #249 USA |
1/20/2010 4:53 PM
King1 wrote:Lee always tells me winning in New York would be the best thing ever. Wait, who are you? You are David Lee's mama, cousin, brother, ext....Explains a lot. My saliva and spit can split thread into fiber and bits/ So trust me I'm as live as it gets.
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cooch2584
Posts: 21587 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2006 Member: #1187 |
1/20/2010 10:34 PM
Has anyone here ever thought that the reason Dlee doesnt take charges, try to block shots and play Ewing defense is because he knows that hes the only guy we have for the middle for now!! The guy is playing like 40+ mins a game and once Jhill learns how to play center dave will go to his natural position. GIVE THE GUY A BREAK ABOUT HIS DEFENSE AND THINK OUT THERE!!
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auchan42
Posts: 20022 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 8/7/2008 Member: #2169 |
1/21/2010 4:48 AM
I think a lot of times David Lee doesn't contest because wants to rebound the ball if it misses. I'll see him under the hoop boxing out 2 guys and just staying there while a player drives to the hoop. I'd be curious to see how often he contests when there's no one else there to compete for the rebound.
If he had confidence in someone else boxing out he may be willing to block more. He has the hops and I feel he has the intelligence to time properly, I just think he feels boxing out and securing the rebound is more important. |
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Cosmic
Posts: 26570 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 3/17/2006 Member: #1115 USA |
1/21/2010 7:46 AM
That right there is part of the problem with David Lee. He will ignore his man to get in position for a rebound. There are times where that has bit us in the ass because he has left his man anticipating the board but the ball bounced out deep and then he gets torched by the offensive rebounder.
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cooch2584
Posts: 21587 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2006 Member: #1187 |
1/21/2010 8:01 AM
And if dave does does as you say who gets the rebound??Gallo? Will? Understand that dave has a hi bball iq and weather hes told by mda to just rebound,or told by mda not to try and block shots, fact is he is our only rebounder!! Explain to me who helps dave under the boards?? I dont understand how you guys dont see this.
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
1/21/2010 8:10 AM
cooch2584 wrote:And if dave does does as you say who gets the rebound??Gallo? Will? Understand that dave has a hi bball iq and weather hes told by mda to just rebound,or told by mda not to try and block shots, fact is he is our only rebounder!! Explain to me who helps dave under the boards?? I dont understand how you guys dont see this. I can see that Lee defensive outlook get better already when galo start playing some defense and helping a bit to block and rebound. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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Cosmic
Posts: 26570 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 3/17/2006 Member: #1115 USA |
1/21/2010 8:25 AM
cooch2584 wrote:And if dave does does as you say who gets the rebound??Gallo? Will? Understand that dave has a hi bball iq and weather hes told by mda to just rebound,or told by mda not to try and block shots, fact is he is our only rebounder!! Explain to me who helps dave under the boards?? I dont understand how you guys dont see this. There are plenty of times when Lee has been on the bench during big time runs or comebacks. Somebody is rebounding. David Lee isn't the end all. He is not a franchise player. He is not a super star. He isn't a player that leaves the game and you find yourself worried about who might fill in for him. Like way back when Ewing had to take a seat due to foul trouble. I never feel that way with Lee. I think his overall stats are an illusion. In fact there are plenty of times where he sits out and we look so much better as a team. Part of that is due to the Duhon-Lee ballhogging mess. Part of that is due to ANY PLAYER playing better defense than Lee. http://popcornmachine.net/ A must-use tool for NBA stat junkies!
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GoNyGoNyGo
Posts: 23559 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 5/29/2003 Member: #411 USA |
1/21/2010 8:41 AM
martin wrote: I see this potentially. Hill |
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Cosmic
Posts: 26570 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 3/17/2006 Member: #1115 USA |
1/21/2010 8:47 AM
GoNyGoNyGo wrote:martin wrote: Yet you're still talking about a player whose mistakes need to be covered. Other players will need to leave their assignments to cover for Lee's defensive weakness. You don't win by doing this. You get torched by doing this. When Bron or Hill have to leave their man to make up for Lee's defensive mistake then their own men are left wide open to create. You simply don't win games like this. You need players who can stand on their own two feet. David Lee is a DISASTER on one side of the ball. So now you're back to the age old "Well, if we just outscore them, we win, so who cares about defense." garbage. http://popcornmachine.net/ A must-use tool for NBA stat junkies!
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Cosmic
Posts: 26570 Alba Posts: 27 Joined: 3/17/2006 Member: #1115 USA |
1/21/2010 8:47 AM
Oh and not for nothing but penciling in Jordan Hill as our starting center, on a team we hope has championship aspirations, is a joke at this point in time.
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cooch2584
Posts: 21587 Alba Posts: 0 Joined: 10/28/2006 Member: #1187 |
1/21/2010 9:22 AM
Im not going to get into a pissing contest with you all.Imo Lee is a star( not a superstar yet) def an all star. Once he gets the guards that can be our first line defenders, works on his 3pt shot and gets some help under the boards then he will go to the next level. Mdas offense is not about having a bona fide center,its about versitl( sp?) players that can play more than 1 position. Its still early and I see a shot at the playoffs and if that happens its just gravy.They are still fun to watch, more than our team in the past 8 yrs.
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arkrud
Posts: 32217 Alba Posts: 7 Joined: 8/31/2005 Member: #995 USA |
1/21/2010 11:20 AM
Cosmic wrote:GoNyGoNyGo wrote:martin wrote: I understand you passion about old-style NBA defense... But get real - this is thing from the past. "There are more things in heaven and earth, Horatio, Than are dreamt of in your philosophy." Hamlet
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