Cookdcokehop wrote:#1 scoring option should be able to drive to the basket and score consistently. Gallo isn't able to do that yet. David Lee, Chandler and Harringtn are all better than him in that department.

David Lee has shown he deserves to be the #1 scoring option right now... he's the most consistent offensive player on the team, rarely if ever has an off night... however he's not a go to guy down the stretch cuz his ability to create his own shot is somewhat limited... i think Wilson Chandler has the skill & ability to be a go to guy down the stretch but unfortunately we usually have Al Harrington taking those shots right now & Wilson is still not there mentally to step up in those big moments, he's too ready to take a back seat to other guys... that's something he needs to work on, his own confidence in himself to make plays... he's shown some improvement in that area this year taking the ball to the hole w/a lot more aggression & not just settling for 3's.

i think Gallo is more well suited to playing a secondary or tertiary role on offense... he's still got a ways to go to develop his ballhandle & strength, he can't yet post up most bigmen & back them down, he's not strong enough to do so... & he's not quick enough off the dribble to blow past quicker wing players... right now his main advantage is his ability to shoot over smaller defenders but he needs to have screens set for him or have the ball kicked out off penetration when he's open to be most effective... they should try isolating him more on the perimeter so he can use his drop fake step back & shoot move of his that he does so well.

TMS wrote:

Cookdcokehop wrote:#1 scoring option should be able to drive to the basket and score consistently. Gallo isn't able to do that yet. David Lee, Chandler and Harringtn are all better than him in that department.

David Lee has shown he deserves to be the #1 scoring option right now... he's the most consistent offensive player on the team, rarely if ever has an off night... however he's not a go to guy down the stretch cuz his ability to create his own shot is somewhat limited... i think Wilson Chandler has the skill & ability to be a go to guy down the stretch but unfortunately we usually have Al Harrington taking those shots right now & Wilson is still not there mentally to step up in those big moments, he's too ready to take a back seat to other guys... that's something he needs to work on, his own confidence in himself to make plays... he's shown some improvement in that area this year taking the ball to the hole w/a lot more aggression & not just settling for 3's.

i think Gallo is more well suited to playing a secondary or tertiary role on offense... he's still got a ways to go to develop his ballhandle & strength, he can't yet post up most bigmen & back them down, he's not strong enough to do so... & he's not quick enough off the dribble to blow past quicker wing players... right now his main advantage is his ability to shoot over smaller defenders but he needs to have screens set for him or have the ball kicked out off penetration when he's open to be most effective... they should try isolating him more on the perimeter so he can use his drop fake step back & shoot move of his that he does so well.

I wish we could just merge Gallo and Chandler into one player. We would have a beast lol.

TMS wrote:

Cookdcokehop wrote:#1 scoring option should be able to drive to the basket and score consistently. Gallo isn't able to do that yet. David Lee, Chandler and Harringtn are all better than him in that department.

David Lee has shown he deserves to be the #1 scoring option right now... he's the most consistent offensive player on the team, rarely if ever has an off night... however he's not a go to guy down the stretch cuz his ability to create his own shot is somewhat limited... i think Wilson Chandler has the skill & ability to be a go to guy down the stretch but unfortunately we usually have Al Harrington taking those shots right now & Wilson is still not there mentally to step up in those big moments, he's too ready to take a back seat to other guys... that's something he needs to work on, his own confidence in himself to make plays... he's shown some improvement in that area this year taking the ball to the hole w/a lot more aggression & not just settling for 3's.

i think Gallo is more well suited to playing a secondary or tertiary role on offense... he's still got a ways to go to develop his ballhandle & strength, he can't yet post up most bigmen & back them down, he's not strong enough to do so... & he's not quick enough off the dribble to blow past quicker wing players... right now his main advantage is his ability to shoot over smaller defenders but he needs to have screens set for him or have the ball kicked out off penetration when he's open to be most effective... they should try isolating him more on the perimeter so he can use his drop fake step back & shoot move of his that he does so well.

Lee seems to catch feelings about Bargnani's dunk but at least he takes it personal. Im loving David Lee showing his real personality instead of his fake too cool front.

I would be fine with the offense running through him now because he is showing he can ball offensively.

TMS wrote:LOL @ Lee's shenanigans... i'd have felt better about that if he went back at Bosh or Amare if he just got dunked on... going back at Bargs just seems lame to me for some reason.

Gallo will be that guy in the future, or at least be #1a, unless, of course, we get our big FA next year, but why rush him at this point? Teammates should be looking for him more and helping him out with some picks, but there is no reason to put "go to" status on him, especially with the emergence of Lee as a complete player on the offensive end this year.

Gallo seems to be moving better without the ball the last two games. He has to continue taking it to the basket when he is being played too tight, though, and work on better positioning his feet when he is shooting. Unless he has an injury to his arm or shoulder that we are not being told about, he is has had too many ugly jumpers this year for a shooter of his ability, and this, IMO, comes from a lack of positional discipline on his shot mechanics. Makes me think that he rushes his J too much at times.

His time will come- I just don't think he is ready at this point.

just wish Lee hadn't gotten T'd up over it, that cost the team... plus he looked pretty goofy in the process.

playa2 wrote:

Paladin55 wrote:Lee should be our # 1 option at this point- he has shown he can do it this year, and he is also showing an ability to pass the ball and get points for teammates.

Gallo will be that guy in the future, or at least be #1a, unless, of course, we get our big FA next year, but why rush him at this point? Teammates should be looking for him more and helping him out with some picks, but there is no reason to put "go to" status on him, especially with the emergence of Lee as a complete player on the offensive end this year.

Gallo seems to be moving better without the ball the last two games. He has to continue taking it to the basket when he is being played too tight, though, and work on better positioning his feet when he is shooting. Unless he has an injury to his arm or shoulder that we are not being told about, he is has had too many ugly jumpers this year for a shooter of his ability, and this, IMO, comes from a lack of positional discipline on his shot mechanics. Makes me think that he rushes his J too much at times.

His time will come- I just don't think he is ready at this point.

When you have multiple guys on a team playing on 1 yr contracts or who's not in the knicks future plans and you as a coach and managemnet expect them to play to the coaches favorites and help those guys excel while they are trying to better themselves for a new contract ~ that's unrealistic.

This is a BUSINESS to the players not just the owners , the players will do what's best for themselves.

And doing what's best for themselves is exactly helping those guys excel. You look like a much more attractive player if you benefit those around you and not just yourself.

playa2 wrote:Not when you aren't given the same chances as others who play poorly.

...and why are some not given these chances?

It all comes down to whether or not you trust MDA to evaluate the guys we now have under contract and put the best mix of players he has out on the floor.

Gallinari is our best scorer when we get down 25 points--the problem is he is shooting under 40% when the game counts.

hard to quantify a statement like that... when exactly does the game "count"? in the first 3 quarters? when the score differential is less than double digits? late in the game in crunchtime situations?

tkf wrote:

TMS wrote:i don't think tkf was referring to Gallo's 1st 5 shot attempts stat... he was referring to the following:

Gallinari is our best scorer when we get down 25 points--the problem is he is shooting under 40% when the game counts.

hard to quantify a statement like that... when exactly does the game "count"? in the first 3 quarters? when the score differential is less than double digits? late in the game in crunchtime situations?

exactly.. briggs doesn't get it.. yet he comes in here trying to throw around money bets as if that means something. a chump, insecure move.. really briggs, I don't want your money bro.. have plenty of my own... you never know who you are talking to on the internet bro... if you want to put up something real, put up your ability to post on this site.... if you are wrong, don't post here again.. if you are right, I won't.... trying to flash a little bit of money is childish.. make a real mans bet!!! But again, TMS pretty much exposed how flawed your logic is.. you pulled that statement out of your ass!!!! Did the game not count when gallo scored 7 straight points in the 4th quarter? LOL... It is amazing how people will make a foolish comment and try to validate it with silly ass money bets... LOL....

I have a better bet briggs.. my 4G's to your 0 bucks.. that we take allof your cumulative post for the year, and if 40% of them make any sense, and are not redundant knee jerk post, then you win 4g's.. I will give you my bookies number, he is holding at least that much for me, and I swear I will have him fed ex it to you.. If not, then you don't post here again... Bet? LOL!!!!!!!!!!!! (rolling eyes, shaking my head)

If you have money to donate to Haiti briggs.. then do so.... It would be a good thing to do... I already had my company donate to Haiti already, and didn't need a silly bet to do so..

You're right--you don't know who you are talking to on the internet. My thought process was at the start of the game--when the game counts--not when we are 19 down. I think I made that very clear when I challenged you on it above--first 5 shots of the game that he takes less than 40%--it could not be more clear. I will gladly donate money if I was wrong--if you are chief money man--Ill make it 50k to you 25k if I am wrong. Ill pay it tomorrow verifiable--but if you are wrong send your 25k to Martin or Andrew tomorrow as well--first 5 shots of the game cumulative to start of year under 40%---50k to Haiti if Im wrong. Now lets see if you have a big mouth--and believe me I will pay the bet if Im wrong----so ante up or be quiet.