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orangeblobman
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1/18/2010  11:37 AM
Efficiency and +/- are different things.
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1/18/2010  12:01 PM
I can't believe we are still having these type of debates about Lee. He's a very good player, not a go-to guy, but an all-star who won't lead a team, but will fit in alongside a star and put up great numbers. He's playing too many minutes and getting up a lot of shots, but he's still extremely efficient. He's a 20-10 player in this league and not the type zach randolph is, he's much better. He's a good passer, can effectively control an offense from the top of the key, and just plays winning basketball. Obviously if he's forced to do too much he's weaknesses will get exposed, like what's happening now, but if he has a star that he can feed off of, he goes back to being a perfect secondary option, along with hopefully Gallo.
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1/18/2010  12:06 PM
I agree with Lee if he has a star around him he would be even better. If you put Bosh on this team right now would they be a ECF team no? Bosh isnt worth max money because he cant carry a team just like Joe Johnson isnt a max player
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1/18/2010  12:30 PM
King1 wrote:I agree with Lee if he has a star around him he would be even better. If you put Bosh on this team right now would they be a ECF team no? Bosh isnt worth max money because he cant carry a team just like Joe Johnson isnt a max player

If I am the Raptors I look to deal Bosh before the deadline and hand the keys to Bargnani.

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1/18/2010  12:38 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
King1 wrote:I agree with Lee if he has a star around him he would be even better. If you put Bosh on this team right now would they be a ECF team no? Bosh isnt worth max money because he cant carry a team just like Joe Johnson isnt a max player

If I am the Raptors I look to deal Bosh before the deadline and hand the keys to Bargnani.

he's already got the keys to DJ's apartment.

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1/18/2010  1:30 PM
Lee is a $10mil per season guy. Nothing more than that unless he opens up his game. He is all offense.
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1/18/2010  2:18 PM
Moonangie wrote:Lee is a $10mil per season guy. Nothing more than that unless he opens up his game. He is all offense.

Hopefully we can get him for that, but at this point any all-star is worth at least 12 million per year. And there are many all-offense players who get far more than that, close to the max. I still don't buy him being all offense anyways. Yes he's not a good defender by any stretch, but a guy who is one of the best defensive rebounders in the league as well as averaging over 1 steal a game is not all offense. He's not a good defender at all, but not as bad as some of you want to think.
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1/18/2010  4:19 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
King1 wrote:I agree with Lee if he has a star around him he would be even better. If you put Bosh on this team right now would they be a ECF team no? Bosh isnt worth max money because he cant carry a team just like Joe Johnson isnt a max player

If I am the Raptors I look to deal Bosh before the deadline and hand the keys to Bargnani.

It wouldn't be long before you got fired after that

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1/18/2010  4:49 PM
I'm still not overly impressed with bargnani and i think gallo will be better, but if i'm toronto i deal bosh for bynum because hedo, bargnani, and bynum is a great frontcourt that is much more balanced. Toronto could rebuild a little and end up with one of the best young teams in the league. I hope they don't move bosh tho, because it will make this summer much more interesting.
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1/18/2010  4:58 PM
knicks1248 wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
King1 wrote:I agree with Lee if he has a star around him he would be even better. If you put Bosh on this team right now would they be a ECF team no? Bosh isnt worth max money because he cant carry a team just like Joe Johnson isnt a max player

If I am the Raptors I look to deal Bosh before the deadline and hand the keys to Bargnani.

It wouldn't be long before you got fired after that

Not if he is Dirk 2.0 next season. I would be fired if I hung on to Bosh and he walk away leaving us empty handed. Nah'mean??

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