Walsh isnt trading anybody so we wont be doing a deal.

cooch2584 wrote:not hill and td plus curry for tmac and any amount of money. Why dont we just throw in dlee too lol.

I like both Douglas and Hill a lot, but with Hill's $3mm and Curry's $11 thats another max guy you can add.

Resign Lee, get Lebron for the max. Bring in Joe Johnson to be your PG (gee... think he can do what Duhon does?)

pg Johnson (6'7)
sg Lebron (6'8)
sf Gallo (6'10)
pf JJ (6'10)
c Lee (6'9)
bench: Chandler

draft a bunch of guys to fill out that roster. If you have a shot at that you have to take it

A. IF we trade Hill--we clear 2.7mm in cap space while getting back a cough/cough* premium* type player who would create enough buzz that no one would remember who Jordan Hill was. T Mac comes in here and plays within the system healthy and propels us to multiple playoff rounds which entices Lebron James to sign with the Knicks:)

B. T Mac is not healthy does not fit in well and Jordan Hill quickly blows up--we realize that the 2.7mm in extra cap space in turn was not needed.

Like Mr Miaga said--choose

BRIGGS wrote:There is two ways to look at this

A. IF we trade Hill--we clear 2.7mm in cap space while getting back a cough/cough* premium* type player who would create enough buzz that no one would remember who Jordan Hill was. T Mac comes in here and plays within the system healthy and propels us to multiple playoff rounds which entices Lebron James to sign with the Knicks:)

B. T Mac is not healthy does not fit in well and Jordan Hill quickly blows up--we realize that the 2.7mm in extra cap space in turn was not needed.

Like Mr Miaga said--choose

I have yet to see a package Houston would actually accept for TMac.

I'd offer Harrington, Mobley and JHill if the knicks REALLY want TMac.

There is no way on this planet or any other planet that the Rockets will accept Jeffries or ECurry for Tmac. Hey, if the Tmac deal doesn't work out, at least we get out from under the $3M commitment to JHill for next season.

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fishmike wrote:

cooch2584 wrote:not hill and td plus curry for tmac and any amount of money. Why dont we just throw in dlee too lol.

Curry, Mobely, Hill and Douglas for TMac. The money works. If we can get Budginer back then great.

I like both Douglas and Hill a lot, but with Hill's $3mm and Curry's $11 thats another max guy you can add.

Resign Lee, get Lebron for the max. Bring in Joe Johnson to be your PG (gee... think he can do what Duhon does?)

pg Johnson (6'7)
sg Lebron (6'8)
sf Gallo (6'10)
pf JJ (6'10)
c Lee (6'9)
bench: Chandler

draft a bunch of guys to fill out that roster. If you have a shot at that you have to take it

houston has max cap room if they don't take back salary for mcgrady. why on earth would they compromise max cap room for.... Jordan Hill and Toney Douglas? that's quite a cost for two unproven rookies. i know jordan hill hasn't gotten much of a chance, but if d'antoni is saying hill is being beaten in practice right now by marcus landry, that is not a good sign.

I don't agree that Houston has max cap space if they don't take salary for Tracy. They'll have around $10M IF they don't want Scola back. They can get max room if they let Hayes, Lowrey, Anderson all go. And my understanding is that those guys are kinda really good role players, but I don't really follow Rockets bball.

they'll have enough to make a max offer to someone if they don't sign Scola, Hayes, Lowry and Anderson. with Yao coming back they have less of a need for Scola/Hayes. Lowry and Anderson aren't starters for them... they'll have Yao, Ariza, Brooks, Carl Landry, Battier, Buddinger, and about $15M in cap room. why on earth would they compromise $15M in cap room for Scola or Jared Jeffries??

the Rockets GM is smart. they'll get someone good in the $10-15M range in free agency.

edit: oh and Andersen and Lowry are both under reasonable contracts for next year and they still have between $10M and $15M in cap room. they will sign someone. there is no way they take jeffries.

orangeblobman wrote:But yo, checks it. What I don't understand about trading for T-Mac is that, why would the Rockets take Jeffries or Curry back when they can just let T-Mac walk at the end of the season if they don't trade him?? You can't get much for him at this point anyway. He's in worse spot than Stephon was last year. At least Stephon was healthy. T-Mac, you don't know if he'll be able to play not 5 games for you, man!

The thinking would be that they would take back one of our young assets, like a Hill or a Tony Douglas or perhaps even a Wilson Chandler and in exchange take back one of our contracts.

But the more I think about it, the more I hesitate about something like that. We have no clue what Hill's potential is, and we can easily get another big time player in a trade or a signing next mid-season, or offseason.

As far as I'm concerned with our young nucleus and cap room, we're in the drivers seat. To hell with these other GM's

orangeblobman wrote:But yo, checks it. What I don't understand about trading for T-Mac is that, why would the Rockets take Jeffries or Curry back when they can just let T-Mac walk at the end of the season if they don't trade him?? You can't get much for him at this point anyway. He's in worse spot than Stephon was last year. At least Stephon was healthy. T-Mac, you don't know if he'll be able to play not 5 games for you, man!

It is simple. If Yao exercises his player option they wont have cap space anyway. Jefferies and Curry are expiring next year anyway and they have more assets for the future to make trades or whatever.

AnubisADL wrote:

orangeblobman wrote:But yo, checks it. What I don't understand about trading for T-Mac is that, why would the Rockets take Jeffries or Curry back when they can just let T-Mac walk at the end of the season if they don't trade him?? You can't get much for him at this point anyway. He's in worse spot than Stephon was last year. At least Stephon was healthy. T-Mac, you don't know if he'll be able to play not 5 games for you, man!

It is simple. If Yao exercises his player option they wont have cap space anyway. Jefferies and Curry are expiring next year anyway and they have more assets for the future to make trades or whatever.

look at it again, they have around $15M in cap room even if Yao exercises his option, which of course he will. houston has cap room. we will not be able to dump curry or jeffries on them. they have no reason to accept such burdens on their cap. why wouldn't they just buy mcgrady out unless they are getting a young guy they are really excited about?

fishmike wrote:this is simple. If no JJ/Curry then no trade. I dont need McGrady here. We are playing pretty good.

i bet sacramento does the kevin martin trade for mcgrady around the deadline.

this idea that houston will be compelled to send mcgrady here is nutty. there are a lot of teams that will want the salary relief mcgrady's deal provides - someone will be willing to offer a really good piece and houston will take it.

I don't really care about either of the rooks. Douglas is a very easy find every year and Hill could very well be effective. I'm offering the Mobley, Hill, Douglas, Curry. If they don't want to take it you simply hang up the phone.

Houston has two pieces in place Ariza/Brooks. They should do what's best for the franchise and package Scola for a younger player and add Hill/Douglas to their core and see what Yao give thems next year. I don't see any big time free agents going there for 12 million.