Cosmic wrote:

franco12 wrote:Bump

Why did David Lee play all 48 last night?

I didn't watch the second half (or really much of the first half) against toronto, but were the Knicks every really in it? Down big at the start of the third, yea, it looks like a nice run was made, but they made no real ground up in the fourth quarter.

OK, maybe they made a decent 2nd half run.

But when we were getting smoked in the first quarter, why not sit Lee?

Chandler and Jeffries got in some serious early foul trouble. Chandler had 4 by halftime and 5th in the 3rd. Jeffries also got 4 and 5 in the third if I recall.

We really had no choice, except you know, maybe our lotto pick rookie rotting on the bench who may have come in for a few minutes. But Mike doesn't like to do that he wants to play the players that "give us the best chance to win".

Yeahhhhh.... so Lee played the full game.

Also, we have 3 Big's sitting on the bench - doing nothing. Hill, Curry, Darko. Yes, they haven't played in over a month ...or 2 for Darko. Why not? This is still my biggest and only real beef against MDA. I like Mike overall as a coach, but he plays too short of a rotation.

MDA plays a short rotation but does play anyone player more then other NBA coaches. Lee is the only guy playing more then 35 minutes. I think in the NBA a start should be able to handle 35 minutes a game. Look at the minutes other coaches are playing guys and you'll see that MDA is not wearing down his key guys anymore then any other coach.

playa2 wrote:

Cosmic wrote:They are pro players. If they're not in shape to play full games then they need to retire. Mike should have inserted Hughes or Douglas... Hill or Darko... at some point when it was clear we were going down in flames. Why he didn't I don't know. It cost us the game. I don't think it was fatigue as much as us doing the same tired BS all game long while the Rockets adjusted and took us down.

Danphoney has a free pass to do what ever he wants to do. They sold most of you with the 2010 lingo so he could spew his ego rhetoric on the team when it comes to who plays and the inconsistent rotation patterns we have seen so far.

Coach dantoni never was a head coach in a big media Market like NYC,this ain't Phoenix (Happy Valley).

His team was not PREPARED FOR THE HYPE ON ITALIAN NIGHT , HIS TEAM BEST PLAYERS LOOKED CONFUSED.

This team excels when the opposing teams build up a lead and become relaxed on defense and the rec ball style(3 pters) draws teams into to playing up and down game because of the lead and the knicks play more loose on the offensive end.

Next people will start saying guys are playing nervous because of the trade deadline.

I've come to the conclusion that Dantoni's style of play is more psychological than anything else based on knowing the players concept of the game league wide in the NBA.

I agree. Coachong is psychological thing in the core.
Caoch who cannot exsell in this area will never win a lick.

playa2 wrote:Oh well I guess it happened again tonight

Must have happened last night too when they went down by 28.

playa2 wrote:

Cosmic wrote:They are pro players. If they're not in shape to play full games then they need to retire. Mike should have inserted Hughes or Douglas... Hill or Darko... at some point when it was clear we were going down in flames. Why he didn't I don't know. It cost us the game. I don't think it was fatigue as much as us doing the same tired BS all game long while the Rockets adjusted and took us down.

Danphoney has a free pass to do what ever he wants to do. They sold most of you with the 2010 lingo so he could spew his ego rhetoric on the team when it comes to who plays and the inconsistent rotation patterns we have seen so far.

Coach dantoni never was a head coach in a big media Market like NYC,this ain't Phoenix (Happy Valley).

His team was not PREPARED FOR THE HYPE ON ITALIAN NIGHT , HIS TEAM BEST PLAYERS LOOKED CONFUSED.

This team excels when the opposing teams build up a lead and become relaxed on defense and the rec ball style(3 pters) draws teams into to playing up and down game because of the lead and the knicks play more loose on the offensive end.

Next people will start saying guys are playing nervous because of the trade deadline.

I've come to the conclusion that Dantoni's style of play is more psychological than anything else based on knowing the players concept of the game league wide in the NBA.

It's all about tearing down Isiah's mess. That meant that this season would be a wash.

What did you expect?

We begin to build our future winning team this coming summer.

I can't understand why some don't see this. This is where we are heading. Look beyond the "please keep buying tickets" rhetoric that they must put out there.

http://www.nba.com/knicks/news/nykdetpre100117.html

Hill Could Crack Rotation vs. Pistons
by Mike Slane, nyknicks.com

Jordan Hill might have earned himself more playing time.

Following Hill’s strong performance down the stretch Saturday night in Detroit, Knicks head coach Mike D’Antoni indicated that the seldom-used rookie’s minutes could increase if he continues to play the way he did in his 13th appearance in 40 games this season.

“(I liked) his energy, he’s athletic and he played well,” D’Antoni said after the 94-90 loss. “If he continues like that, he’ll get some more time.”

When the Knicks return home for a Martin Luther King Day matinee matchup in the second game of a home-and-home series against the Pistons, there is a possibility that Hill could be part of the rotation. New York has lost four of its last five following a three-game winning streak to start 2010, and D’Antoni is searching for answers.

D’Antoni inserted veteran guard Larry Hughes back into the rotation early with the hope of “trying to catch lightning in a bottle.” But the Knicks were unable get anything going against the Pistons before Hill checked in late in the third quarter. After trailing by as many as 21 points, D’Antoni called Hill’s number and the Knicks fought their way back to make it a two-point game with 9.9 seconds left to play.

“I don’t think that the main guys that were playing came out with a desire to win, and that’s too bad,” D’Antoni said. “We picked it up obviously in the second half, mostly in the fourth quarter, and we got good minutes from Jordan (Hill), which was good. So we’ll go from there and see if we could get it done.”

Hill finished the night with six points on 3-for-5 shooting from the field and pulled down three rebounds in 13 minutes. But what stood out the most was his energy on defense as he used his 6-foot-10 frame to block one shot and alter several others. The Knicks outscored Detroit by 17 with him on the floor.

Hill was selected eighth overall in last June’s draft but has been unable to crack D’Antoni’s tight rotation. D’Antoni has repeatedly said that Hill needs to outplay the veterans ahead of him to earn a spot. Defensive specialist Jared Jeffries, sixth man Al Harrington, All-Star candidate David Lee and Jonathan Bender are the big men currently playing consistent minutes, although Bender did not play in the second game of a back-to-back in Detroit.

As we approach the midway point of the season, the Knicks (16-24) are still very much in the playoff picture despite their recent slump. They are only three games back of the eighth-place Chicago Bulls and four games behind the seventh-place Charlotte Bobcats with their next five games at home.