misterearl wrote:"Give them Hill, Curry and Mobley."

MS - According to Chris Broussard, of ESPN and formerly of the NYTimes as excellent Knicks writer, the Houston Rockets want All Star talent in return for McGrady. Whether that talent is established or projected to be an all star upon maturing, they do not want dreck.

which all stars do you propose the Knicks, or any other team, give up for TMac?

They can wish and ask all they want. The Kings aren't giving them Kevin Martin and unless they want Redds contract they are lucky to get a lottery pick to add to Brooks and Ariza.

Chandler/Douglas/Curry/Mobley if they want I would even throw throw Toney/Hill together to get it done. They replace Lowry's toughness at the end of the season on the cheap and get a young big....

Can someone name a better realistic package out there

"Daryl Morey, who became the Rockets general manager last May, is fairly guarded about the models he uses — understandable in a sport in which the science is still being developed. Basketball as a sport has not yet settled on more sophisticated ways for assessing a player, as baseball eventually did with statistics like on-base percentage and slugging percentage.

But the search is on for something more meaningful than points per game. Morey and others in his field are filling hard drives with information, categorizing player types, shot selection, substitution patterns, the result of every pass and the success rate of the transition 3-point attempt (which, statistically speaking, happens to be a good shot).

“We track everything imaginable,” Morey said. “Each pick-and-roll, what’s the result of it? Each guy on the floor, how efficient they are. A lot of it, we end up not using. But we track it so that we have it available in case the question comes up where it becomes relevant.”

.... please consider who the Rockets want from the Knicks in return for McGrady.

AnubisADL wrote:

MS wrote:The Rockets aren't getting an All-Star for McGrady. His contract isn't paid by insurance and he isn't an elite or allstar player regardless of what the Chinese fans say (Starting All-Star again this year)

They can wish and ask all they want. The Kings aren't giving them Kevin Martin and unless they want Redds contract they are lucky to get a lottery pick to add to Brooks and Ariza.

Chandler/Douglas/Curry/Mobley if they want I would even throw throw Toney/Hill together to get it done. They replace Lowry's toughness at the end of the season on the cheap and get a young big....

Can someone name a better realistic package out there

You forget they can just let him expire and drop 23 million off their cap. If Yao opts out thats another 17 million off their cap.

Just like for the Knicks cap space is worth more than short term success for the Rockets.

Yao is not opting out and leaving 17million on the table.

MS - Eddy made it very tough to move Eddy

misterearl wrote:Here is who Walsh is dealing with in Houston.

"Daryl Morey, who became the Rockets general manager last May, is fairly guarded about the models he uses — understandable in a sport in which the science is still being developed. Basketball as a sport has not yet settled on more sophisticated ways for assessing a player, as baseball eventually did with statistics like on-base percentage and slugging percentage.

But the search is on for something more meaningful than points per game. Morey and others in his field are filling hard drives with information, categorizing player types, shot selection, substitution patterns, the result of every pass and the success rate of the transition 3-point attempt (which, statistically speaking, happens to be a good shot).

“We track everything imaginable,” Morey said. “Each pick-and-roll, what’s the result of it? Each guy on the floor, how efficient they are. A lot of it, we end up not using. But we track it so that we have it available in case the question comes up where it becomes relevant.”

.... please consider who the Rockets want from the Knicks in return for McGrady.

Yeah. I was going to write that in a battle of wits with Daryl Morey..most NBA gms come out on the bottom.

Moonangie wrote:

sebstar wrote:If they want Chandler, they've got to take one of our contracts, tho.

We don't trade unless we are dumping a contract. We're not looking at TMac as a contributor on our team, just an expiring. What sense would it make to add him and lose talent without dumping one of our two albatross deals?

so are you agreeing with me?