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12/21/2009  5:00 PM
GSW - N8 for Curry $2,710,560 + Jamal Crawford trade exception $810,502 = $3,521,062

LA Lakers - N8 for Farmar $1,947,240 + Radmanovic trade exception $1,890,200 = $ 3,837,440

Orlando - N8 for Reddick $2,839,408 + Wilks trade exception $797,581 = 3,636,989

Nate to the Wizards for Randy Foye $3,575,761 works straight up

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12/21/2009  6:21 PM
3-way trade between Golden State, Chicago & New York (All salaries match up)

Golden State gets:

Ty Thomas PF
Jordan Hill PF

Chicago gets:

Al Harrington PF
Nate Robinson SG
Toney Douglas PG (although I'd try to keep him out..trade works with or without him)

New York gets:

Anthony Randolph PF
Taj Gibson PF
Jerome James C (expiring)
Speedy Claxton PG (expiring)

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12/21/2009  6:45 PM
Rookie wrote:
LA Lakers - N8 for Farmar $1,947,240 + Radmanovic trade exception $1,890,200 = $ 3,837,440


Nate to the Wizards for Randy Foye $3,575,761 works straight up

i like these trades best and they seem realistic.

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12/21/2009  7:00 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2009  7:18 PM
Trade Checker is fun for the whole family, if the other franchise's General Manager is presumed to be an idiot

rookie - Let's check the always dependable, Reality Checker

For the purpose of the Knicks using him in a trade, Nate's contract is only worth slightly more than $2 million, which means because they’re over the cap, they can basically take only a $2 million player (or players) back.

But I'll play along anyway...


GSW - N8 for Curry $2,710,560 + Jamal Crawford trade exception $810,502 = $3,521,062

Golden State gives up a highly publicized lottery pick for Nate Robinson? Okayfine. The entire Alameda County fanbase promptly calls for the resignation of first year GM Larry Riley.

LA Lakers - N8 for Farmar $1,947,240 + Radmanovic trade exception $1,890,200 = $ 3,837,440

Jordan Farmar refuses to report to New York City and promptly retires to Manhattan Beach as a volleyball instructor

Orlando - N8 for Reddick $2,839,408 + Wilks trade exception $797,581 = 3,636,989

During the very first timeout, after Nate's first Orlando shift, the always-emotional Stan Van Gundy loses his cool and strangles Nate on national television. Dwight Howard shrugs and thinks to himself, "hey bro, I tried to warn you... you on your own now, son..."

Nate to the Wizards for Randy Foye $3,575,761 works straight up

Randy Foye can't shoot a lick (career 42 per cent from the field) but was chosen on the all Rookie team three years ago. Hey, if Jonathan Bender can come back, so can Randy. Besides, a Villanova pedigree ain't a bad thing. Book it Dano. Nate is promptly buried on the Wizards bench behind Gilbert Arenas, Javaris Crittenton and (cough) Earl Boykins.

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12/21/2009  7:24 PM
Nate the great to Toronto for Amir Johnson--we need rebounding--he is young and expiring and can play up tempo + he is shooting 60%

Toronto needs to develop Derozan off the bench--he was never ready to jump in as a starter--Nate could start for Toronto with their size upfront

Good value both ways

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12/21/2009  7:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/21/2009  7:53 PM
I don't know exactly how the BYC calculates but I read elsewhere that a trade exception of 4M cancels it out. LA Lakers, Miami, Chicago, Clippers, NJ, Orlando, Houston all have 4M in exceptions. There's probably a few more. All I'm saying is trading Nate is difficult but not impossible. There are teams that have players that I think we would like, the question still remains....would they want the diminutive one. Lets see what his agent can do to free him and get us something we can use in return. In the mean time, nothing wrong with having a little fun exploring options....douchebag.
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12/22/2009  7:41 AM
Rookie wrote:I don't know exactly how the BYC calculates but I read elsewhere that a trade exception of 4M cancels it out. LA Lakers, Miami, Chicago, Clippers, NJ, Orlando, Houston all have 4M in exceptions. There's probably a few more. All I'm saying is trading Nate is difficult but not impossible. There are teams that have players that I think we would like, the question still remains....would they want the diminutive one. Lets see what his agent can do to free him and get us something we can use in return. In the mean time, nothing wrong with having a little fun exploring options....douchebag.

Robinson is a "base-year compensation" player, meaning despite his $4 million contract, the Knicks can only accept back a player whose contract is $2.6 million. If both teams are over the cap, a deal is not possible because the salaries must match. A third team would have to be involved

Let's go Knicks. That's amare
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12/22/2009  9:18 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2009  9:18 AM
BRIGGS wrote:Nate the great to Toronto for Amir Johnson--we need rebounding--he is young and expiring and can play up tempo + he is shooting 60%

Toronto needs to develop Derozan off the bench--he was never ready to jump in as a starter--Nate could start for Toronto with their size upfront

Good value both ways

toronto needs amir as he is their primary backup big man - especially with reggie evans hurt all year. secondly, demar is progressing quite nicely with the starters. putting him on the bench will hurt his development.

it is a fair deal tho but the circumstances are not right for it.

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12/22/2009  9:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2009  10:49 AM
Reality Checker For Douchebags

"In the mean time, nothing wrong with having a little fun exploring options....douchebag."

rookie - you funny.

I love to have fun. I enjoy finding humor in just about everything and (get this) also laugh in the face of the mathematics as you obviously do. For that reason my intent was to consider the always humorous human element that is Nate Robinson. How would Nate's ebullient personality translate to the depth chart of another team and what effect would his entertaining serendipity have on their shot attempts?

Can you deny that having Nate and Stan Van Gundy on the same sideline would be downright hilarious?

Since you "don't know exactly how the BYC calculates" and enjoy rumors, how about this blockbuster trade idea "option" for a little holiday season douchebag fun?

Nate Robinson, Darko Millicic, Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries - for Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar and Pau Gasol

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12/22/2009  9:41 AM
"One Western Conference executive said the market for Robinson is virtually non-existent, and that even teams with a need for bench scoring are concerned about Robinson's downside -- i.e., he shoots too much, dribbles too much, and hasn't learned to take the game seriously. “The value of Nate Robinson is that his contract expires,” the executive said. “It’s not that teams are saying we need to pick him up.” Not surprising; once a situations gets contentious like Robinson’s, trading partners sense weakness." CBSSports.com
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12/22/2009  10:16 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/22/2009  10:16 AM
markvmc wrote:"One Western Conference executive said the market for Robinson is virtually non-existent, and that even teams with a need for bench scoring are concerned about Robinson's downside -- i.e., he shoots too much, dribbles too much, and hasn't learned to take the game seriously. “The value of Nate Robinson is that his contract expires,” the executive said. “It’s not that teams are saying we need to pick him up.” Not surprising; once a situations gets contentious like Robinson’s, trading partners sense weakness." CBSSports.com

Man I don't know if I buy that...Nate's a good little scorer and could definitely help a playoff-bound team. Nate's too young and talented to think buyout. Donnie's got to put together some kind of deal for an asset, however small. We got a 2nd round pick for Renaldo Balkman for Christ's sake. We couldn't at least fetch the same for Nate Robinson? If Walsh winds up doing nothing except buying Nate out, it's a big failure on our part as far as I'm concerned...

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12/22/2009  10:55 AM
Nate has no value because unlike a Balkman who has a defined role, what do you do with Robinson?

He's too small to be a 2G and plays at best lackluster defense. He refuses to work the ball so he has no value as a point guard. What team would really want that?

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12/22/2009  11:00 AM
NJPlayer79 wrote:Nate has no value because unlike a Balkman who has a defined role, what do you do with Robinson?

He's too small to be a 2G and plays at best lackluster defense. He refuses to work the ball so he has no value as a point guard. What team would really want that?

are we talking about duhon?

the stop underrating David Lee movement 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!
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12/22/2009  11:05 AM
McK1 wrote:
NJPlayer79 wrote:Nate has no value because unlike a Balkman who has a defined role, what do you do with Robinson?

He's too small to be a 2G and plays at best lackluster defense. He refuses to work the ball so he has no value as a point guard. What team would really want that?

are we talking about duhon?
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When asked if this was the hardest game to not play in, Robinson simply said: "its all the same." 1. FIRE MIKE 2. HIRE MULLIN 3. PAY AVERY 4. FREE NATE!!!

Hey McK1,
What's your fascination with Mullin? What's he ever accomplished?

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12/22/2009  11:09 AM
McK1 - I would rather have Duhon out there than Nate and I would venture to guess if you asked his teammates who they would rather play with they would say Duhon as well...Duhon isn't a starting PG caliber player but he's done as well as can be expected for me.
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12/22/2009  11:52 AM
NJPlayer79 wrote:Nate has no value because unlike a Balkman who has a defined role, what do you do with Robinson?

He's too small to be a 2G and plays at best lackluster defense. He refuses to work the ball so he has no value as a point guard. What team would really want that?

Nate can be the perfect 6th man guard. Energy, scoring, some passing. The prob with him is defense and attitude. Both are fixable but Nate has just got to get it through his head.

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12/22/2009  12:49 PM
Curry, Nate, Mobley, and $3 mil for TMac and a 2nd rounder.
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12/22/2009  1:23 PM
markvmc wrote:"One Western Conference executive said the market for Robinson is virtually non-existent, and that even teams with a need for bench scoring are concerned about Robinson's downside -- i.e., he shoots too much, dribbles too much, and hasn't learned to take the game seriously. “The value of Nate Robinson is that his contract expires,” the executive said. “It’s not that teams are saying we need to pick him up.” Not surprising; once a situations gets contentious like Robinson’s, trading partners sense weakness." CBSSports.com

exactly why we shouldn't have portrayed a problem & just let him play & put up numbers up til the trading deadline... we all know he can play & can be a very exciting player to watch... he's not a limited talent scrub with a cap killing contract like Fishlips.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/22/2009  1:24 PM
Finestrg wrote:
markvmc wrote:"One Western Conference executive said the market for Robinson is virtually non-existent, and that even teams with a need for bench scoring are concerned about Robinson's downside -- i.e., he shoots too much, dribbles too much, and hasn't learned to take the game seriously. “The value of Nate Robinson is that his contract expires,” the executive said. “It’s not that teams are saying we need to pick him up.” Not surprising; once a situations gets contentious like Robinson’s, trading partners sense weakness." CBSSports.com

Man I don't know if I buy that...Nate's a good little scorer and could definitely help a playoff-bound team. Nate's too young and talented to think buyout. Donnie's got to put together some kind of deal for an asset, however small. We got a 2nd round pick for Renaldo Balkman for Christ's sake. We couldn't at least fetch the same for Nate Robinson? If Walsh winds up doing nothing except buying Nate out, it's a big failure on our part as far as I'm concerned...

Agreed 100% bro... letting Nate go for nothing in return is a huge failure on Donnie's part

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12/22/2009  2:11 PM
misterearl wrote:Reality Checker For Douchebags

"In the mean time, nothing wrong with having a little fun exploring options....douchebag."

rookie - you funny.

I love to have fun. I enjoy finding humor in just about everything and (get this) also laugh in the face of the mathematics as you obviously do. For that reason my intent was to consider the always humorous human element that is Nate Robinson. How would Nate's ebullient personality translate to the depth chart of another team and what effect would his entertaining serendipity have on their shot attempts?

Can you deny that having Nate and Stan Van Gundy on the same sideline would be downright hilarious?

Since you "don't know exactly how the BYC calculates" and enjoy rumors, how about this blockbuster trade idea "option" for a little holiday season douchebag fun?

Nate Robinson, Darko Millicic, Larry Hughes and Jared Jeffries - for Kobe Bryant, Andrew Bynum, Jordan Farmar and Pau Gasol

If Nate is so worthless....why did we re-sign him for 4M. Should we chalk it up to a charitable contribution by the folks at cablevision who must have been in the giving spirit and just wanted to take a joy ride through the tabloids dragging all involved through needles drama as the team tries to build steam and team spirit with a side order of defensive toughness to ride a winning streak and good feelings into the pine that Nate's gluteus maximus will surely ride for the remainder with his jolly old side kick big snacks?

The count down begins - post your N8 the GG8 trade ideas/rumors

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