Finestrg wrote:I see where you're going Fish -- getting this kid Randolph would be tremendous -- but if it's really the potential firesale out there like we're hearing, the guys I'd really want would be Randolph, Ellis, Morrow, CJ Watson, Brandon Wright and of course Steph Curry. Don't really have too much of an interest in anyone else on that team...

If we ever put together a blockbuster to get Randolph AND Ellis (to get both of those guys together in the same deal, I wouldn't care what young pieces we'd had to give up -- Hill, Doulgas, Gallinari, a future pick or two, whatever man -- even Lee & Nate though I doubt they'd agree to go there), now you can stand there with a straight face when you sit LeBron down next off-season to sell him on the Knicks' future. LeBron..Ellis...Anthony Randolph...Even if we'd have to renounce everyone else on the roster, that's a PHENOMENAL trifecta to go forward with right there...If we ever got to a position to put those 3 together, you piece together the rest of the roster with role players just like Chicago did with Jordan & Pippen and go to war...IMO, for Randolph & Ellis, you go all-in on a trade like this. Not so much for Randolph & Maggette (Corey's contract is awful, not to mention he'd add to the SF logjam we already have - in your trade scenario, would you really want to bring him here to play ahead of AR, Chandler or Gallo??). No thanks to Corey Maggette but it sounds like we might be able to do something with Golden State here.. If we can get Randolph & Ellis and still maintain enough of a salary slot to add one max FA, it's a no-brainer if ever there was one...

Now I'm dying to wake up one of these mornings and read in the paper that Walsh is having conversations with the Warriors....Pick up the phone Donnie. Where there's smoke, there's fire -- he's gotta jump on this before some other team out there engages the Warriors..

LET'S GO!!!!!!!

so you would sell out gallanari and hill,and any good piece we have to get a nut and turnover machine(ellis) and a mental midget and headcase( randolph)? LOL.. thank god you are not our GM.. no offense, but I don't see the sense in that at all.. why is he on the market so soon? I know GS and nelson can be a little cooky and odd, but why do you think this guy is already on the market? Golden state would glady take gallo and we would watch him go out there and aveage 22/7/4 easily shooting 46%..... while most of you would be cursing randolph as he loses his mind trying to play in NY... I am not sure I trust that kids mental makeup.. he looks troubled..

I would try to do a more sensible deal involving morrow and curry if they would move him.. morrow would give us the SG with size that we really need...

Rookie wrote:You guys didn't read the article. They want a proven star in his prime for their young talelent ala Bosh/Amare. We ain't got that.

fishmike wrote:

Rookie wrote:You guys didn't read the article. They want a proven star in his prime for their young talelent ala Bosh/Amare. We ain't got that.

and they arent getting that. Who is going to do that? What bigtime player would be on the block much less for what GS is offering?

Michael Redd perhaps? his contract isn't as heinous as Maggette or Ellis'... i can see Nellie signing off on that type of deal to dump a longterm salary using a sweetener asset like AR, but he'll have to remain healthy til the deadline & start putting up some numbers again like last season for that to happen... or maybe Vince Carter? T-Mac is another option but same situation w/Redd, he'll have to show he can stay healthy & produce again for Nellie to pull the trigger on getting him too... Caron Butler is another possibility if WAS is willing to take back Maggette's contract.

Washington needs to move Arenas and Jamison before they move Butler. Bosh makes sense I just don't see them doing it which is crazy because he is going to walk at years end. Colangelo has really done an awful job of capping out that team and destroying its future this offseason.

And we don't need Jennings and AR teaming up, Redd isn't bad if they got rid of Ellis.

I think in the right environment which New York will be very soon once Hughes/Harrington/Nate are all gone at seasons end this deal makes the knicks a handful. Lee/Jefferies/Chandler for Ellis/AR isn't bad either. Douglas-Ellis-FA-Gallo-Hill-AR 6th man.

MS wrote:I am not sure why they would want Boozer. He is a good player that is going to take the first good offer out there. Ellis/AR for Boozer makes sense for them if they are clearing cap adding the scoring guard and knicks pick would make them very dangerous.

Washington needs to move Arenas and Jamison before they move Butler. Bosh makes sense I just don't see them doing it which is crazy because he is going to walk at years end. Colangelo has really done an awful job of capping out that team and destroying its future this offseason.

And we don't need Jennings and AR teaming up, Redd isn't bad if they got rid of Ellis.

I think in the right environment which New York will be very soon once Hughes/Harrington/Nate are all gone at seasons end this deal makes the knicks a handful. Lee/Jefferies/Chandler for Ellis/AR isn't bad either. Douglas-Ellis-FA-Gallo-Hill-AR 6th man.

arenas and his contract is pretty much unmovable!! mount Everest , rock of gilbraltar.... his deal pretty much guarantees he will be a wizard the rest of his basketball career... who would take arenas with his knees, mouth and game along with that contract?

Lee/Jefferies/Chandler for Ellis/AR isn't bad either. Douglas-Ellis-FA-Gallo-Hill-AR 6th man.

he has had games of 11,9 several 7,5 and 4 turnover games.. the guy is a turnover machine.. he averages almost aveages four and a half per game!

orangeblobman wrote:I feel something in my bones. Expect a deal either today or tomorrow.

nah, that's just the feeling you get when procrastinating