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DrAlphaeus
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12/6/2009  3:53 PM
Big up yourself misterearl. Thanks for the field report.
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12/6/2009  5:22 PM
I was watching Duhon today and you're right, he looks sluggish bringing it up. But that's not his strength, so at least he knows this. He runs the pick and roll exceptionally well and he is at least serviceable, playing the way he is now, until we get a replacement.
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12/6/2009  6:46 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/6/2009  7:00 PM
Larry Hughes Update

orangeblob - Duhon (2-12 from the field) must be disciplined by the coaching staff to defer a third of his 12 shot attempts to Gallinari, who only attempted 6 shots. Duhon shoots 32 per cent from the field. Gallo 45. You do the math.

The Knicks have three players who can be depended on for double figures - Harrington, Gallo and Lee are all shooting 45 per cent or more from the field. If either Chandler and Hughes can alternate the nights they make a solid contribution to the offense that makes four. If they both show up... I'm in heaven.

It is also worth noting that Hughes was more observant at the start. As he played in Atlanta, he did not force his offense and slowly worked himself into the fabric of the game.

It is imperative that Chris Duhon think more like a distributor. It is not his role to score. 10 assists. No excuses.

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12/6/2009  7:03 PM
Duhon still hasn't fully learned that even tho the defense is leaving him open, he doesn't have to shoot it. Nash knowz this and will force the defense to have to respond to him, but probing and penetrating until they're forced to react and that's when he flips a short pass to an open teammate. Sometimes Duhon does this, but not enough. In the Hawks game I saw Duhon maintain his dribble and keep moving towards the paint and move along the baseline and the second that the defense came over and doubled him he whipped a pass to Lee in the paint for an easy layup. That kind of play is there all day.
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12/7/2009  9:10 AM
Earl: Bip's philosophy is to give out 2 or 3 compliments a year. This way when Bip finally does give out a compliment the person on the receiving end knows that the Bip means it.

Great thread!! Nice to see someone actually analyzing what is going on instead of whining about who we could have had or crying about the record. We know it's bad. We know we could have had Jennings. But there is still some basketball discuss.

Darko-I think it's pretty obvious that his playing time goes deeper then "D'Antoni just doesn't like big men". The man said it himself, he doesn't want to be here anymore

Hughes-I think he's been the most consistent Knick since he started getting playing time. Dare I say that I vote him team MVP. If anyone deserves such a thing.

Nate-Great observation regarding Nate. I personally don't think D'Antoni has given up on Nate. I do think that a clear message has been sent. Is he finally getting it or is his time here done?

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12/7/2009  2:47 PM
Anyone who talks in the third person is a friend of The Answer Man

bipp - I appreciate the rare and sincere dap. (Dr Alphaeus, EnySpree and Nalod, thank you as well) The Answer Man never gives out compliments. As much as I admire their effort and investment, you will never read The Answer Man sucking up to Martin or Andrew at any time. The Answer Man likes it like that.


In October, I had high hopes for Darko to mature and grow into an opportunity with a coach whose system might encourage his growth. There are never stories about Darko being early to practice or staying late to work on his game. It is one thing to be passive. Quite another to display the anti-social behavior of former Dallas Cowboys star, Duane Thomas. Besides, Darko ain't no Duane Thomas.


Other than Atlanta, Chris Duhon is butchering the team shooting percentage. Larry Hughes has stepped in and taken Nate's minutes and added a player who can be trusted to do more than one thing with the ball in his hands. I expect D'Antoni to continue to tinker with a subtle variation on the Atlanta shiftline that had Hughes at lead guard, Douglas at the other backcourt spot. Gallinari, Harrington and Lee in the frontcourt. What that shift lacks in height, they make up for in experience and ability to take it to the hole.


Tonight, against Portland, will be an excellent opportunity to see how that combination plays together.

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12/7/2009  3:04 PM
I've been saying this for weeks, despite our deslikes for duhon, when he plays well we almost never lose. I can't say that about any other player we have. I relize why MDA is stuck on him praying for consistancy.
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12/7/2009  3:17 PM
knicks1248 wrote:I've been saying this for weeks, despite our deslikes for duhon, when he plays well we almost never lose. I can't say that about any other player we have. I relize why MDA is stuck on him praying for consistancy.

Duhon's improved play has been huge during this recent streak, but also other guys are stepping up their games as well... Al isn't forcing up as many shots, he's actually trying to pass the ball every once in a while (he still forces up shots but not as many)... Gallo's steadily improving as a player on both sides of the ball, Hughes & TD are providing stellar defense on the perimeter, Lee has been consistent on the offensive side of the ball all year, & Wilson Chandler is playing w/more force & aggression & it's paying dividends as well.

After 7 years & 40K+ posts, banned by martin for calling Nalod a 'moron'. Awesome.
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12/7/2009  4:07 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/7/2009  4:23 PM
Eight Is Enough

Perhaps the October/ November auditions were just an exercise to determine who D'Antoni could trust in crunch time. Nate may be characterized as a disciplinary "benching" by the press, but some of us know better. There are only so many quality minutes to go around and the shortest distance between two points is drawn with guys who are familiar with one other.

1. Harrington - slowly evolving into a more well-rounded 'heart and soul' type of player and everyone knows you gotta have one of those. Just don't let it go to your head Al. Take the intensity, leave the cannoli.

2. Lee - Mister Double Double is shooting well from the field and providing flow to the O. You gotta have him around.

3. Gallinari - stands to benefit the most, picking up the shot attempts that Nate stole off his plate. The Knicks marketing department can put all the taped Nate-being-silly skits in the trash. That, in itself, is a sign of progress. "We want Gallo!" Now, get him the damn ball.

4. Hughes - gotta like what he does off the dribble when he keeps his head up. Motivation is key.

5. Chandler - could be slowly falling out of love with the three point shot and finally driving to the rack more. He jumps center and on some nights... may wind up playing center.

6. Duhon - would love to see him snap his passes more like Drew Brees and less like Charlie Ward. If guys are not ready with their hands up it's their fault. Hit the open man.

7. Jeffries - I simply cannot resist the temptation to cut and paste Marcus Camby in this slot. Has anybody seen Eddy?

8. Douglas - new kid on the block likes to go. Even his mistakes make you smile because you know he is paying attention to the fundamentals. Did somebody say 'work ethic'?

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12/7/2009  4:19 PM
misterearl wrote:Anyone who talks in the third person is a friend of The Answer Man

bipp - I appreciate the rare and sincere dap. (Dr Alphaeus, EnySpree and Nalod, thank you as well) The Answer Man never gives out compliments. As much as I admire their effort and investment, you will never read The Answer Man sucking up to Martin or Andrew at any time. The Answer Man likes it like that.


In October, I had high hopes for Darko to mature and grow into an opportunity with a coach whose system might encourage his growth. There are never stories about Darko being early to practice or staying late to work on his game. It is one thing to be passive. Quite another to display the anti-social behavior of former Dallas Cowboys star, Duane Thomas. Besides, Darko ain't no Duane Thomas.


Other than Atlanta, Chris Duhon is butchering the team shooting percentage. Larry Hughes has stepped in and taken Nate's minutes and added a player who can be trusted to do more than one thing with the ball in his hands. I expect D'Antoni to continue to tinker with a subtle variation on the Atlanta shiftline that had Hughes at lead guard, Douglas at the other backcourt spot. Gallinari, Harrington and Lee in the frontcourt. What that shift lacks in height, they make up for in experience and ability to take it to the hole.


Tonight, against Portland, will be an excellent opportunity to see how that combination plays together.

Sucking up to Martin or Andrew is a bannable offense

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12/7/2009  4:30 PM
misterearl wrote:Anyone who talks in the third person is a friend of The Answer Man

Bip hates people that do this

I just hope that people will like me
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12/7/2009  9:51 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/8/2009  6:39 AM
All of a sudden, being a Knicks fan does not suck that bad.

They are discovering new trust in each other and approaching the game with confidence and pride. Most important, there is balance in the offense as the scoring load is being shared.

Larry Hughes is playing the best basketball of his brief stay in New York City. He is doing an outstanding, and intelligent, job of selecting the moments that he steps into the foreground.

The epiphany is that defense pays. “David, he had a big block at the end,” D’Antoni said, adding with a chuckle, “I don’t think I’ve ever said that since I’ve been here.”

Jared Jeffries can't shoot a lick but he can dee up.

"I do know that a lot of the focus hasn't been on Toney Douglas and it really has a lot to do with it," D'Antoni said. "(Douglas) gives us something that we lack: defensive energy. He allows the ball to get to other people's hands like Gallo and David Lee. In this situation as a coach I think it's better for us."

Suddenly, the blowout victory against the Suns appears to be more an epiphany than an aberration. Eddy Curry has three days of practice to knock some more rust off.

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12/10/2009  2:10 PM
Even Tommy Dee Reads The Answer Man

"Mike D’Antoni’s system, as we’ve said, is predicated on ball movement and space. Whether it be open jump shots or pretty pick and rolls, the offense is clicking because the team is making opposing defenses guard the perimeter.

Consider over their last 5 games (4-1) Wilson Chandler, Larry Hughes and Danilo Gallinari, three perimeter players, are shooting a combined 29-60 from three. Gallinari, as we know, has little difficulty getting off the 3, in fact he’s shooting a higher percentage than he is inside the arc. But the key has to be the hot streaks of Hughes and Chandler.

Again, to me, the key to this offense is making the defense defend the perimeter, and in order for that to happen the team has to prove it can make open looks. Say what you want about the offense, but it does create open opportunities.
So if Hughes cools off, you’d have to hope that Al Harrington or maybe Chris Duhon can get hot. I would think that the team can continue to be effective if they have 3 perimeter players making shots from downtown. That is NOT to say the team needs to RELY on the 3-ball, but it definitely is key they make a good percentage of the one’s that are open.

When you stretch the defense out to the perimeter it opens up the floor for drives and pick and rolls. Then the offense, as we’ve seen over the last week or so, can really start clicking."

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12/10/2009  3:12 PM
as long as Dudu is running the point ssol in NY is nothing but a fable.

Drives me nuts how Dudu constantly walks the ball up the court instead of pushing it. Even when numbers are on our side. The guy is crapstastic (meanings fabulously awful)

the fact that you can't even have an unrelated thread without some tool here bringing him up make me think that rational minds are few and far between. Bunch of emotionally weak, angst riddled people. I mean, how many times can you argue the same shyt
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12/11/2009  11:42 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2009  12:14 AM
So goes The Mayor, So Goes The Knicks

Ever since Wilson Chandler fell out of love with the three point shot, his offense has been demonstratin and percolatin. Drive it to the hole young man... to the hole! There are not many players who can stop a determined 6'8 240 pound yoot with exceptional hops and his ability to finish smoothly or with flair. Hope the ankle is feeling better.

Our beloved Knicks are managing to get excellent 20+ contributions from at least three players a night, with the remaining three holding it down. Tonight it was Duhon, Harrington and The Mayor. Lee, Gallo and Hughes were complimentary players in the scoring column but delivered a total of 27 rebounds out of 47 total. Next game it might be their turn to score.

Suddenly, the symmetry brings better shot selection, more cohesion (26 assists) and better production from the field.

Somewhere, on a team plane parked the New Orleans airport, Mike D'Antoni is smiling inside.

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12/12/2009  7:26 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2009  7:31 AM
Someone Samples The Answer Man

(Isn't It Sweet when guys actually pay attention to the game?)

D'Antoni tweaks offensive strategy
By MARC BERMAN

NEW ORLEANS -- Mike D'Antoni, inventor of the "Seven Seconds or Less" offense, admits he has tinkered with his formula during the Knicks' surge, having slowed the attack.

"As long as it's 24 seconds or less," D'Antoni said jokingly before the Knicks won their fourth straight and fifth in six games in a comeback victory over the Hornets at New Orleans Arena.

D'Antoni said the dramatic change came after their franchise-worst 1-9 start, finally realizing the talent does not translate to speedball. When D'Antoni accepted the Knicks job before the 2008-09 season, there were questions if D'Antoni would adapt his system to the talent. It took him a while, but he's finally adjusted.

Indeed, point guard Chris Duhon, who got off to an awful start to the season but now is on a major roll, has proven better at running a halfcourt offense.

"We've slowed it down," D'Antoni said. "We'd like to run at every opportunity. This pace suits us better as a team."
They've been a lot more efficient offensively -- shooting 48.4 percent in the 4-1 streak, compared to 44.5 percent prior.

"It was several seconds and a mess," D'Antoni quipped.

"We were rushing some shots," D'Antoni said. "We got carried away. Once you're in a hole, maybe you try to push it even harder and that can backfire."

Occasionally, Duhon can be seen walking the ball upcourt - something that directly flies in the face of D'Antoni's revolutionary Suns' offense.

Asked if it pains him to slow down his attack, D'Antoni said, "What pains me is losing. I don't care. I want to win. You have in mind how you want to play sometimes but certain guys are better playing a different way. We're better this way."

No sh!t

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12/12/2009  9:36 AM
The level of narcissism on this thread is almost approaching gayness.
TKF on Melo ::....he is a punk, a jerk, a self absorbed out of shape, self aggrandizing, unprofessional, volume chucking coach killing playoff loser!!
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12/12/2009  10:19 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/12/2009  10:23 AM
loweyecue - Your immediate recognition of gayness is appreciated and noted for future reference. How far past gayness I will leave to your experience and exposure. Jedi like magnificence it approaches, yes.

The Knicks played their best defensive game of the year last night.

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12/12/2009  10:50 AM
Just messin with you GO KNICKS!!
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12/12/2009  10:53 AM
loweyecue - no harm, no foul. I'm jus bustin your balls

Vote Wilson Chandler for Mayor

Rock on 'til the break of dawn. The Knicks don't need Lebron.

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