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firefly
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12/17/2009  9:03 AM
What I love about the rankings is that FIFA blatantly punished France for their cheating. And damn right too!

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2009/dec/02/france-world-cup-seeding-michel-hidalgo

Basically, if FIFA would have used 2008 rankings, 2009 rankings or November rankings (when the playoffs were finished) France would have been in the first pot of seeds. But, cunningly, they used the Nomber rankings, and France were down in the fourth pot. Justice served IMO.

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12/17/2009  9:04 AM
with all due respect, jimimou, the rankings are highly suspect at best. croatia is @ 10 and they're not in the cup. not to say that they're not awesome, but 10 in the world not competing in the cup? either the qualification system is flawed or the ranking system is flawed.
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12/17/2009  9:08 AM
orangeblobman wrote:with all due respect, jimimou, the rankings are highly suspect at best. croatia is @ 10 and they're not in the cup. not to say that they're not awesome, but 10 in the world not competing in the cup? either the qualification system is flawed or the ranking system is flawed.

What are you on? Qualification is a league format. If you dont finish 1st or 2nd in your league, you dont qualify for the World Cup. Rankings include other matches, historical data and World Cup, CON, CONF and UEFA Champ performance. Brazil nearly didnt qualify and their number 2! Portugal and France too! Rankings have nothing whatsoever to do with qualification.

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12/17/2009  9:11 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/17/2009  9:18 AM
firefly wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:with all due respect, jimimou, the rankings are highly suspect at best. croatia is @ 10 and they're not in the cup. not to say that they're not awesome, but 10 in the world not competing in the cup? either the qualification system is flawed or the ranking system is flawed.

What are you on? Qualification is a league format. If you dont finish 1st or 2nd in your league, you dont qualify for the World Cup. Rankings include other matches, historical data and World Cup, CON, CONF and UEFA Champ performance. Brazil nearly didnt qualify and their number 2! Portugal and France too! Rankings have nothing whatsoever to do with qualification.

that's what i'm saying. i just don't put much stock in rankings as a predictor.

i guess i just assumed their use as a predictor in this case, given the discussion so far.

but yea, i guess they are an accurate gauge of a team's overall body of work.

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12/17/2009  10:31 AM
orangeblobman wrote:with all due respect, jimimou, the rankings are highly suspect at best. croatia is @ 10 and they're not in the cup. not to say that they're not awesome, but 10 in the world not competing in the cup? either the qualification system is flawed or the ranking system is flawed.

with all due respect obm, i dont really value your opinion on this..
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12/17/2009  10:33 AM
jimimou wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:with all due respect, jimimou, the rankings are highly suspect at best. croatia is @ 10 and they're not in the cup. not to say that they're not awesome, but 10 in the world not competing in the cup? either the qualification system is flawed or the ranking system is flawed.

with all due respect obm, i dont really value your opinion on this..

you should really follow a discussion through before commenting, especially before commenting on the seedling of the discussion. I present to you, the ending:

that's what i'm saying. i just don't put much stock in rankings as a predictor.

i guess i just assumed their use as a predictor in this case, given the discussion so far.

but yea, i guess they are an accurate gauge of a team's overall body of work.

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12/17/2009  10:36 AM
Rooney sucks, Kaka is better! Brasil all the way.
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12/17/2009  10:42 AM
Silverfuel wrote:Rooney sucks, Kaka is better! Brasil all the way.

kaka is dynamite. him and ronaldo can figure out how to play together, real will dominate
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12/17/2009  11:23 AM
Silverfuel wrote:Rooney sucks, Kaka is better! Brasil all the way.

Friendly side bet? Loser has to root for the Raptors. Or Germany!!!

Kaka BTW in my opinion is a little overrated. Ronaldo on the other hand can carry a team all on his lonesome. Kaka not looking so good in white. Then again Ronaldo looked better in red, but maybe thats me being biased.

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12/17/2009  11:25 AM
firefly wrote:
Silverfuel wrote:Rooney sucks, Kaka is better! Brasil all the way.

Friendly side bet? Loser has to root for the Raptors. Or Germany!!!

Kaka BTW in my opinion is a little overrated. Ronaldo on the other hand can carry a team all on his lonesome. Kaka not looking so good in white. Then again Ronaldo looked better in red, but maybe thats me being biased.

the 3rd guy in this equation is mesi - he's gotta perform for argentina to make any noise in the cup. damn, cant wait another 175 days for this thing to start.
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12/17/2009  11:26 AM
And Jimi, Real will never dominate with the pansy-ass defense they have, not to mention their deficiencies in midfield. Im a big fan of Xabi Alonso, but to be effective he needs a Mascherano next to him, not a Kaka. If it were me, Id play Ronny on the right, Kaka on the left, Xabi and Diarra or some big hard enforcer in the middle. Up front could be Fred and Earnie it doesnt matter, the goals are coming from the flanks. Oh, and dump their entire defense. Arbeloa?!?! Hah!!
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12/17/2009  11:27 AM
Oh, now Leo Messi, I can dig. That kid as some serious serious talent.
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12/17/2009  11:29 AM
But back to Rooney, you might be able to say that Ronaldo and Messi have slightly better technical ability and maybe Kaka has better vision, and maybe Torres as better goal-scoring nose, but for passion, commitment, power, raw desire to win PLUS no small amount of the above-mentioned talents, Rooney is as complete a football player as you could hope for. Like Stevie G on roids.
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12/17/2009  11:31 AM
firefly wrote:And Jimi, Real will never dominate with the pansy-ass defense they have, not to mention their deficiencies in midfield. Im a big fan of Xabi Alonso, but to be effective he needs a Mascherano next to him, not a Kaka. If it were me, Id play Ronny on the right, Kaka on the left, Xabi and Diarra or some big hard enforcer in the middle. Up front could be Fred and Earnie it doesnt matter, the goals are coming from the flanks. Oh, and dump their entire defense. Arbeloa?!?! Hah!!

agreed, having kaka play this semi-sweeper/center-half role aint working....he roams way to much and imo, thats what hurts the defensive side of the ball for real. although he's got talent up the wazoo, he spends too much time with the ball on his feet trying to look the player rather than making plays. they need the young version of the beckham they used to have to be able to set these guys up for some goal scoring opps. remember when david played for real? he was damn good back then.
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12/17/2009  11:33 AM
oh and btw firefly...you can BARELY tell youre a United fan from your posts
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12/17/2009  3:18 PM
jimimou wrote:oh and btw firefly...you can BARELY tell youre a United fan from your posts

You know me, I try to infuse a degree of objectivity to my commentary

But thats the way it is. Im not really ashamed of it! If my kid comes home from school one day and tells me he's an Arsenal fan, I'll throw his ass out!!

Oh, to be a fan of a real team like Olympiakos!!!!

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12/17/2009  3:58 PM
so my poor olympiakos hasnt been performing...thanks for reminding me
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12/18/2009  9:10 AM
jimimou wrote:so my poor olympiakos hasnt been performing...thanks for reminding me

But they are a PASSIONATE team, very passionate.
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1/19/2010  4:36 PM
More injuries for the US side. Cup hopes are dimming, not that they were that bright anyway...

Dempsey is the third front-line United States player to sustain an injury that could keep him out of the World Cup. It is only the latest injury worry for Bradley, who has been without the first-team central defender Oguchi Onyewu (knee) and the emerging striker Charlie Davies (a broken leg sustained in an auto accident) since late 2009. Onyewu is in his first season with A.C. Milan in Italy, and Davies is in his first with Sochaux in France.

If Dempsey is unavailable for the World Cup, it could reopen a door for DaMarcus Beasley. Beasley, who has been playing an increasingly important role for Glasgow Rangers in Scotland, fell out of favor at the Confederations Cup but offers Bradley speed and experience on the left flank. Other possibilities include Robbie Rogers, a naturally right-footed player who has played on the left side for the Columbus Crew, and Alejandro Bedoya, 22, who plays in Sweden.
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2/5/2010  5:09 PM
Looks like the Brits will have a new captain since the former captain was sleeping with a girl who happened to be dating another team member...I can only hope this is the begining of the demise for the british side...
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