kam77 wrote:

McK1 wrote:

kam77 wrote:Hill can shoot better than David Lee already. And as we've seen can defintely D up better already.

so can Mikki Moore.

comparing Lee's skill level to Hill's skill level is like comparing the rainfall over Seattle to the rainfall over Los Angeles

Dude all you can see is dreadlocks.

Comparing a rookie to a 4th year player is a dubious comparison. Lee came into the league with a knack for rebounding and finishing with both hands. Since then he has added a FT shot and a developing mid range game. I am not overwhelmed by DLee's skillset.

I guess you aren't counting david lee's court vision and overall court awareness as a skill.
also he has some of the best hands ever. lee' sability to create proper spacing fine seams in the d and catch everthing thrown his way has been evident since his rook year and that ability had some people believing Duhon had all-star potential through the first month last season.

this reminds me of the Balkman hype

how many times are Knick fans going to over hype a rookie only to be proven that he isn't that good. My favorite was the Mardy Collins hype after he played a few good games at the end of his rookie season.

Knick fans ask yourself this if Jordan Hill was on any other NBA team would you be singing his praises? Or would you be flaying the GM for drafting such a raw player as a lotto pick?

bitty41 wrote:

this reminds me of the Balkman hype

how many times are Knick fans going to over hype a rookie only to be proven that he isn't that good. My favorite was the Mardy Collins hype after he played a few good games at the end of his rookie season.

Knick fans ask yourself this if Jordan Hill was on any other NBA team would you be singing his praises? Or would you be flaying the GM for drafting such a raw player as a lotto pick?

Again, Jordan Hill is not at fault for where he was picked. Can we look at this guy with unbiased eyes?

McK1 wrote:this reminds me of the Balkman hype

or maybe the Trevor Ariza hype.

post all star break the line up should be what jrzyhustla posted, douglas and gallo in the backcourt and chandler, lee, and hill in the front court.

i still think lee and nate should be traded. thats the only way jeffries could get unloaded, and i think neither is worth what the knicks will ultimately have to pay for them (nate more so than lee). will be interesting to see. that PER stuff is misleading, jennings is starting and playing 40 minutes (and has the ball in his hands at the end of games and is making plays), hill's #'s are bound to be inflated he only plays every few games and when he does its sparingly and rarely in important minutes.

McK1 wrote:what skills? hill cant pass. hill cant dribble.

You need your center to run the point too??? Jordan is a big man and he does all the big man stuff very well. His activity is what the Knicks have missed...if you are home or near a TV the Knicks replay is playing now. Check out the 4th quarter again. The element he brings is totally on display.

EnySpree wrote:

McK1 wrote:what skills? hill cant pass. hill cant dribble.

You need your center to run the point too??? Jordan is a big man and he does all the big man stuff very well. His activity is what the Knicks have missed...if you are home or near a TV the Knicks replay is playing now. Check out the 4th quarter again. The element he brings is totally on display.

no but I prefer being able to run an O through him and for that he needs to be able to dribble some and pass. Look at Curry and imagine what kind of post game he and NY would have had if he could dribble and pass.

TMS wrote:

bitty41 wrote:

this reminds me of the Balkman hype

how many times are Knick fans going to over hype a rookie only to be proven that he isn't that good. My favorite was the Mardy Collins hype after he played a few good games at the end of his rookie season.

Knick fans ask yourself this if Jordan Hill was on any other NBA team would you be singing his praises? Or would you be flaying the GM for drafting such a raw player as a lotto pick?

i dunno what threads you've been reading of late but we see guys who haven't proven jack in the NBA get praised with regularity around here... i lost count of how many "Let's trade for Jerryd Bayless" threads i've seen in the past year... then u have someone saying guys like Hasheem Thabeet, Spencer Hawes, Donte Green, Ty Lawson, etc., etc. are more promising than the guys we have on other threads... if u ask me the exact opposite has been going on around here for as long as i can remember... every prospect on every other team is better than ours... guys like D Lee, Nate, Gallo, Wilson & Hill weren't even given a chance to show what they could do before being bashed on these forums by the typical crowd of naysayers.

pheonix suns announcers were praising gallo and were also talking about how good, jordan hill was in college and how good they think he will be in the NBA.....

If this losing is gonna continue and the Knicks leading scorer in Harrington is so bad he comes off the bench, then Duhon and probably Wilson or Lee needs to eat it as well. Jordan needs to start or at the very least, get into the rotation.

McK1 wrote:this reminds me of the Balkman hype

Big difference. Hill can shoot, which Balkman couldn't, and Hill has shown a willingness to improve his game, which Balkman has not. Obviously, Hill needs to work and has a long way to go, but the basic athleticism, scoring skills, and defensive instincts are there. He just needs to develop them and his body. Balkman never really had shooting skills.