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In defense of the Knicks last two drafts
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nixluva
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12/3/2009  12:13 AM
I can't say Jennings was a mistake cuz we've seen guys like him before come into the league on fire and then fizzle out, slow down or the league figures them out. We need time to really judge.
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12/3/2009  2:44 AM
nixluva wrote:I can't say Jennings was a mistake cuz we've seen guys like him before come into the league on fire and then fizzle out, slow down or the league figures them out. We need time to really judge.

He has slowed down in recent games 26/84 from the field in his last 5 games, although he is still great from the 3pt line and his assist totals are staying strong. Are teams adjusting to him already?
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12/3/2009  8:44 AM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  8:44 AM
nixluva wrote:I can't say Jennings was a mistake cuz we've seen guys like him before come into the league on fire and then fizzle out, slow down or the league figures them out. We need time to really judge.

He's a rookie, so of course he is going to ebb and flow but the point is that he has perennial All-Star talent. Thats all you can ask for. Speculation on his career will develop is just that, but lets not try to rationalize the decision at this point because its clear Walsh overplayed Jennings perceived deficiencies and woefully underplayed his enormous talent.

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12/3/2009  9:41 AM
I love Gallo and I think Roy's getting a tad overrated, but to be honest I don't think Gallo will ever sniff Roy's gym socks. Roy is a solid 1st option ala Joe Johnson. Not one of the top guns like Lebron, Melo, Wade, but definitely in the second tier where having him around can simply win the team games. Gallo at his highest I think will be an upper echelon 2nd banana. You put him with a bunch of scrubs like how they started Durant out in OKC and the team will go nowhere.

Gallo's biggest strength is shooting the basketball, and when he has to create, he loses some of that spot up shooting that kills teams. Think of a better Rashard Lewis as his prime, which is fantastic, but Lewis couldn't do much without Howard at his side. We saw yesterday how deadly Lewis was when the team had to (stupidly) shrug off him. Imagine Gallo in that role.

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12/3/2009  10:28 AM
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orangeblobman wrote:gallo best player out of the lot.

Gallo > Roy??

i was saying the same thing.. LOL.. I am a huge gallo fan, but lets wait a minute here.. can gallo be on roys level one day? yes, but right now, roy is the best out of that draft IMO.. right now, that is..

i say that because i missed roy on the list. then, right now, roy #1, gallo #2 out of the lot.

but gallo? he have probably equal or greater talent and potential as roy, and it took few years for roy to heat up hot.

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12/3/2009  1:50 PM
Paladin55 wrote:
nixluva wrote:I can't say Jennings was a mistake cuz we've seen guys like him before come into the league on fire and then fizzle out, slow down or the league figures them out. We need time to really judge.

He has slowed down in recent games 26/84 from the field in his last 5 games, although he is still great from the 3pt line and his assist totals are staying strong. Are teams adjusting to him already?

teams are doubling him heavy and his shot has suffered due to it. however he is moving the ball beautifully and Ridnour Ilyasova are getting a ton of room to operate and make plays because of the attention he is drawing.

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12/3/2009  1:53 PM    LAST EDITED: 12/3/2009  1:54 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
tkf wrote:
JCHAN wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:gallo best player out of the lot.

Gallo > Roy??

i was saying the same thing.. LOL.. I am a huge gallo fan, but lets wait a minute here.. can gallo be on roys level one day? yes, but right now, roy is the best out of that draft IMO.. right now, that is..

i say that because i missed roy on the list. then, right now, roy #1, gallo #2 out of the lot.

but gallo? he have probably equal or greater talent and potential as roy, and it took few years for roy to heat up hot.

he avg'd 17 4 and 4 with solid %'s as a rook. Roy's first year is/has been a career year for alot of nba guards

and Gallo is not ahead of Kaman or Walker either.

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12/3/2009  2:58 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
tkf wrote:
JCHAN wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:gallo best player out of the lot.

Gallo > Roy??

i was saying the same thing.. LOL.. I am a huge gallo fan, but lets wait a minute here.. can gallo be on roys level one day? yes, but right now, roy is the best out of that draft IMO.. right now, that is..

i say that because i missed roy on the list. then, right now, roy #1, gallo #2 out of the lot.

but gallo? he have probably equal or greater talent and potential as roy, and it took few years for roy to heat up hot.

ok, I understant you missing him on the list.. but I also agree, it took roy a few years, and hopefuly gallo makes the same strides, until then, of course, roy gets the nod...

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12/3/2009  3:19 PM
JCHAN wrote:I love Gallo and I think Roy's getting a tad overrated, but to be honest I don't think Gallo will ever sniff Roy's gym socks. Roy is a solid 1st option ala Joe Johnson. Not one of the top guns like Lebron, Melo, Wade, but definitely in the second tier where having him around can simply win the team games. Gallo at his highest I think will be an upper echelon 2nd banana. You put him with a bunch of scrubs like how they started Durant out in OKC and the team will go nowhere.

Gallo's biggest strength is shooting the basketball, and when he has to create, he loses some of that spot up shooting that kills teams. Think of a better Rashard Lewis as his prime, which is fantastic, but Lewis couldn't do much without Howard at his side. We saw yesterday how deadly Lewis was when the team had to (stupidly) shrug off him. Imagine Gallo in that role.

TOO SOON! You can't say that Gallo isn't headed towards Dirk territory at this point. I think he can get there and mainly cuz I think he has that kind of swagger in his head. He was the leader of his Pro Euro team at 19! He has already started to develop the confidence here at the NBA level that the stars must have. He's already in my mind at this stage of his development headed for more than a Rashard Lewis. Gallo has all the requisite skills to eventually be able to create his own shot on a regular basis. He's not going to need and doesn't currently have a STUD Center or other top tier player to keep defenses honest and yet he's able to put up numbers.

Gallo's size, quick release and decent handle for his size already shows that he's got the talent to be a lead guy, it's up to him and his mental disposition. As we saw, when he's aggressive and wants to force the action he can do it. The 1st skill you need to be able to create for yourself is the threat of your shot. Gallo couldn't be more dangerous. Then you only need to use that against your defender. The defender will have to play closer than he wants to in order to stop your shot and that makes up for any quickness disadvantage. So Gallo has a size advantage and due to his shot, he can usually get by his defender with a good up fake. This is how Bird was able to do it and I see Gallo the same way. I think Gallo can be a player every bit as impactful as Roy.

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12/3/2009  3:25 PM
nixluva wrote:
JCHAN wrote:I love Gallo and I think Roy's getting a tad overrated, but to be honest I don't think Gallo will ever sniff Roy's gym socks. Roy is a solid 1st option ala Joe Johnson. Not one of the top guns like Lebron, Melo, Wade, but definitely in the second tier where having him around can simply win the team games. Gallo at his highest I think will be an upper echelon 2nd banana. You put him with a bunch of scrubs like how they started Durant out in OKC and the team will go nowhere.

Gallo's biggest strength is shooting the basketball, and when he has to create, he loses some of that spot up shooting that kills teams. Think of a better Rashard Lewis as his prime, which is fantastic, but Lewis couldn't do much without Howard at his side. We saw yesterday how deadly Lewis was when the team had to (stupidly) shrug off him. Imagine Gallo in that role.


TOO SOON! You can't say that Gallo isn't headed towards Dirk territory at this point. I think he can get there and mainly cuz I think he has that kind of swagger in his head. He was the leader of his Pro Euro team at 19! He has already started to develop the confidence here at the NBA level that the stars must have. He's already in my mind at this stage of his development headed for more than a Rashard Lewis. Gallo has all the requisite skills to eventually be able to create his own shot on a regular basis. He's not going to need and doesn't currently have a STUD Center or other top tier player to keep defenses honest and yet he's able to put up numbers.

Gallo's size, quick release and decent handle for his size already shows that he's got the talent to be a lead guy, it's up to him and his mental disposition. As we saw, when he's aggressive and wants to force the action he can do it. The 1st skill you need to be able to create for yourself is the threat of your shot. Gallo couldn't be more dangerous. Then you only need to use that against your defender. The defender will have to play closer than he wants to in order to stop your shot and that makes up for any quickness disadvantage. So Gallo has a size advantage and due to his shot, he can usually get by his defender with a good up fake. This is how Bird was able to do it and I see Gallo the same way. I think Gallo can be a player every bit as impactful as Roy.


YEA, gallo does have that swagger, and as you said, the key to driving is having the threat of a shot. I think what makes gallo different from guys like rahard lewis(who is a good player) is that gallo has the skill to go either way.. And what I mean is that, you can't force him to a weak side. He goes left just as good as he goes right, and is very willing to finish with his left hand..

He also is starting to look much more comfortable comming off the screens. he hit lee with a nice pass for the and 1, yesterday... We are seeing more and more from him every game. I hope it continues..

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12/3/2009  4:20 PM
nixluva wrote:
JCHAN wrote:I love Gallo and I think Roy's getting a tad overrated, but to be honest I don't think Gallo will ever sniff Roy's gym socks. Roy is a solid 1st option ala Joe Johnson. Not one of the top guns like Lebron, Melo, Wade, but definitely in the second tier where having him around can simply win the team games. Gallo at his highest I think will be an upper echelon 2nd banana. You put him with a bunch of scrubs like how they started Durant out in OKC and the team will go nowhere.

Gallo's biggest strength is shooting the basketball, and when he has to create, he loses some of that spot up shooting that kills teams. Think of a better Rashard Lewis as his prime, which is fantastic, but Lewis couldn't do much without Howard at his side. We saw yesterday how deadly Lewis was when the team had to (stupidly) shrug off him. Imagine Gallo in that role.

TOO SOON! You can't say that Gallo isn't headed towards Dirk territory at this point. .

at what point in Dirk's career did he rely so heavily on the 3 point shot for his offense?

IMO we have a Euro Rashard Lewis on our hands which is fine.

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12/3/2009  4:24 PM
McK1 wrote:
nixluva wrote:
JCHAN wrote:I love Gallo and I think Roy's getting a tad overrated, but to be honest I don't think Gallo will ever sniff Roy's gym socks. Roy is a solid 1st option ala Joe Johnson. Not one of the top guns like Lebron, Melo, Wade, but definitely in the second tier where having him around can simply win the team games. Gallo at his highest I think will be an upper echelon 2nd banana. You put him with a bunch of scrubs like how they started Durant out in OKC and the team will go nowhere.

Gallo's biggest strength is shooting the basketball, and when he has to create, he loses some of that spot up shooting that kills teams. Think of a better Rashard Lewis as his prime, which is fantastic, but Lewis couldn't do much without Howard at his side. We saw yesterday how deadly Lewis was when the team had to (stupidly) shrug off him. Imagine Gallo in that role.

TOO SOON! You can't say that Gallo isn't headed towards Dirk territory at this point. .

at what point in Dirk's career did he rely so heavily on the 3 point shot for his offense?

IMO we have a Euro Rashard Lewis on our hands which is fine.

i don't think we can judge that yet because of the *coaching* that gallo is receiving. all the knicks except lee look like 3-point chuckers in this *offense*. let's see what emerges over time.

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