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The Official "I Love Al Harrington" thread.
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TMS
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11/28/2009  9:14 PM
Hey, what if we grab Boozer who agrees to an extension and then Melo in the offseason with our cap space?

i can't get excited over signing Carlos Boozer... i'd rather just re-sign D Lee if that's the case, he'll be much cheaper & they give u similar production.

IMO if we don't end up w/at least 1 premier stud FA after all this build up & expectation about cap flexibility & the rest, then this entire plan would have been an abject failure of epic proportions... ending up w/2 lesser tier FA's like Boozer & Joe Johnson is a failure in my view... we could have gotten talent like that via trades over the past few years w/o having to suck every year in the process.

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11/29/2009  12:21 PM
I cannot be in love with Al for 3 reasons:
1. He is a man.
2. He has stange scalp form.
3. He has some strange things in his head which makes him erratic bbal player.
Othervise nice dude.
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11/29/2009  1:57 PM
As a starter he has some flaws but as a bench player put in the game for his offense you want someone who shoots it without a conscience. At the start of the year, Al was shooting very badly from three but almost fifty percent from 2. His three point shooting has come along and he is becoming a very dangerous weapon. For a bench player, what more can you ask for? He is a strong 6th man of the year candidate.
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11/29/2009  2:27 PM
kam77 wrote:As a starter he has some flaws but as a bench player put in the game for his offense you want someone who shoots it without a conscience. At the start of the year, Al was shooting very badly from three but almost fifty percent from 2. His three point shooting has come along and he is becoming a very dangerous weapon. For a bench player, what more can you ask for? He is a strong 6th man of the year candidate.

I mean if he was on Utah coming off the bench then it makes sense....or any other playoff calibur team.....on the Knicks Al Harrington shouldn't be on the bench...especially with the losers ahead of him. 41pts off the bench twice? The Knicks need a guy like that to start the games on the right foot...Same with Duhon...Duhon is a guy you put in as a change of pace guy to hold down the starters so they can get a breather. Wilson falls into that catagory as well....

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11/29/2009  2:31 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  2:33 PM
EnySpree wrote:
kam77 wrote:As a starter he has some flaws but as a bench player put in the game for his offense you want someone who shoots it without a conscience. At the start of the year, Al was shooting very badly from three but almost fifty percent from 2. His three point shooting has come along and he is becoming a very dangerous weapon. For a bench player, what more can you ask for? He is a strong 6th man of the year candidate.

I mean if he was on Utah coming off the bench then it makes sense....or any other playoff calibur team.....on the Knicks Al Harrington shouldn't be on the bench...especially with the losers ahead of him. 41pts off the bench twice? The Knicks need a guy like that to start the games on the right foot...Same with Duhon...Duhon is a guy you put in as a change of pace guy to hold down the starters so they can get a breather. Wilson falls into that catagory as well....

thing is, chief, that he wouldn't be on a team like utah because his mental make-up does not fit in well with the Team that are the Jazz. you dig?

harrington is best suited for the role he has now-- a 'go-to' scorer on a 20-30 win team in the middle of a rebuilding phase. his second best role would be as a heavily curtailed 7th or 8th man on a winning team where his role was so precisely defined that he has no confusion about what is expected of him, and that would be about 15-20 minutes a game.

thing about guys like harrington is that they are so freakishly talented and athletic that it goes against cursory reasoning to put him in a 15mpg role-- but deeper analysis reveals that he can never be anything more than that. it's a case of Awesome Hope pitted versus Unsightly Reality.

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11/29/2009  2:48 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  2:50 PM
orangeblobman wrote:

thing about guys like harrington is that they are so freakishly talented and athletic that it goes against cursory reasoning to put him in a 15mpg role-- but deeper analysis reveals that he can never be anything more than that.

Why? NOBODY can guard this dude. Nobody.

He dropped 41 off the bench TWICE, with no help. Zero. The second best offensive player on the team is 5'8".

One real scorer drawing the defense away from him is all this guy needs to consisitently dominate games-- either starting or off the bench.

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11/29/2009  3:49 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  3:50 PM
TRU wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:

thing about guys like harrington is that they are so freakishly talented and athletic that it goes against cursory reasoning to put him in a 15mpg role-- but deeper analysis reveals that he can never be anything more than that.

Why? NOBODY can guard this dude. Nobody.

He dropped 41 off the bench TWICE, with no help. Zero. The second best offensive player on the team is 5'8".

One real scorer drawing the defense away from him is all this guy needs to consisitently dominate games-- either starting or off the bench.

and how many time he drop less than 10 points? something wrong, man. why no one see that? and we 3-13.

40 point scorers usually translate to some wins, not garbage ball. give break to me.

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11/29/2009  4:13 PM
i dunno how much value u can put into this, but the 3 games we've won this year Al has played 30-32 minutes off the bench & scored 26 or less... in the 3 games Al has scored 30 or more, he played 36-40 minutes off the bench & lost all 3 times... obviously i'm not saying it's his fault we lost, but this ties in with the concept that i don't believe u can have him be your go to guy & expect to win many games... he's much better in a supporting role... i just think having more of a balanced attack gives this team a better chance at winning games than having Al be the main focus of the offense personally... if we could use him in that capacity i have no problems w/Al on this team.
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11/29/2009  6:10 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  6:10 PM
TMS wrote:i dunno how much value u can put into this, but the 3 games we've won this year Al has played 30-32 minutes off the bench & scored 26 or less... in the 3 games Al has scored 30 or more, he played 36-40 minutes off the bench & lost all 3 times... obviously i'm not saying it's his fault we lost, but this ties in with the concept that i don't believe u can have him be your go to guy & expect to win many games... he's much better in a supporting role... i just think having more of a balanced attack gives this team a better chance at winning games than having Al be the main focus of the offense personally... if we could use him in that capacity i have no problems w/Al on this team.

you can put 'hella' value into this, as they say in rap circles. because it's YET ANOTHER indication of the incredible ineptness of mr. harrington.

you know how they say, if it walks like duck, it is duck? well harrington walks like BIG DUCK.

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11/29/2009  6:44 PM
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:i dunno how much value u can put into this, but the 3 games we've won this year Al has played 30-32 minutes off the bench & scored 26 or less... in the 3 games Al has scored 30 or more, he played 36-40 minutes off the bench & lost all 3 times... obviously i'm not saying it's his fault we lost, but this ties in with the concept that i don't believe u can have him be your go to guy & expect to win many games... he's much better in a supporting role... i just think having more of a balanced attack gives this team a better chance at winning games than having Al be the main focus of the offense personally... if we could use him in that capacity i have no problems w/Al on this team.

you can put 'hella' value into this, as they say in rap circles. because it's YET ANOTHER indication of the incredible ineptness of mr. harrington.

you know how they say, if it walks like duck, it is duck? well harrington walks like BIG DUCK.

Then dude you are the biggest duck on this forum

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11/29/2009  6:50 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/29/2009  6:51 PM
EnySpree wrote:
orangeblobman wrote:
TMS wrote:i dunno how much value u can put into this, but the 3 games we've won this year Al has played 30-32 minutes off the bench & scored 26 or less... in the 3 games Al has scored 30 or more, he played 36-40 minutes off the bench & lost all 3 times... obviously i'm not saying it's his fault we lost, but this ties in with the concept that i don't believe u can have him be your go to guy & expect to win many games... he's much better in a supporting role... i just think having more of a balanced attack gives this team a better chance at winning games than having Al be the main focus of the offense personally... if we could use him in that capacity i have no problems w/Al on this team.

you can put 'hella' value into this, as they say in rap circles. because it's YET ANOTHER indication of the incredible ineptness of mr. harrington.

you know how they say, if it walks like duck, it is duck? well harrington walks like BIG DUCK.

Then dude you are the biggest duck on this forum

i don't know what that means, but i let it go, i let it go. why hate on brotha OBM??

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12/6/2009  3:23 PM
More evidence that Al is our second "max FA" for cheap.

All those second tier names guys are mentioning? Like Joe Johnson? Al is out performing'em.

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12/6/2009  3:45 PM
Lemme jump on the bandwagon too. Sure he's had me shaking my head on a number of occasions, but I like this guy. I like this guy's skills and heart... plus he's a North Jersey dude who grew up a Knicks fan.
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12/6/2009  4:25 PM
He's playing better now - attacking the basket instead of settling for threes. When he passes and rebounds, he's a very effective player.
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12/6/2009  5:14 PM
Ira wrote:He's playing better now - attacking the basket instead of settling for threes. When he passes and rebounds, he's a very effective player.

Dude's a dynamite player. He played great today...

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12/6/2009  5:28 PM
Finestrg wrote:
Ira wrote:He's playing better now - attacking the basket instead of settling for threes. When he passes and rebounds, he's a very effective player.

Dude's a dynamite player. He played great today...

Finestrg...

I think you just came up with a knickname for dude... Dynomite Al!

We all know he looks like jimmy walker.

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12/6/2009  5:32 PM
Al HangOnTheRim has been playing well. I did not watch more than the first few minutes of today's game so I can't comment on what I did not watch. However Don Nelson has it right about Al: He thinks he is a superstar but he is not.

Meaning...he plays to control a team and a game as if he is a superstar but he comes up short more often than not.

You can't win over the long haul with such a player and his actions.

Now, I like Al Harrington, he tries hard, he plays well at times, but the truth of it is he will hurt you just enough to keep you from being a very good team - regardless of his teammates.

I say let him walk or use him to dump Jeffries or Curry if possible.

However, out of all the veterans we have, he could potentially be one that sticks. I just hope he isn't retained because we failed to land Bron or Wade or Bosh, etc. I don't want to be the Chicago Bulls when they eventually threw Jalen Rose all that money because nobody else would sign with them. Please...let us not do that. If a top FA doesn't sign then you hang on to the flexibility and try again another day. Signing average players with your cap space is not going to change your fortunes.

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12/6/2009  5:42 PM
Al is not the guy u want to be ur main go to guy on offense if u wanna win consistently, but he can be a very good 2nd or 3rd option on a winning team... right now in our situation we suck so bad so i guess beggars can't be choosers, but if i had the option of signing Al or D Lee to a similar level contract, i'd probably pick D Lee cuz he doesn't need to dominate the touches on offense to be productive... this is assuming we have no better options to use that cap space on this offseason... if u ask me i'd sooner just trade Al & Lee this year if we can get some future picks or usable assets.
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12/6/2009  10:35 PM
uh...*cough*...14 rebounds...*cough*...5 assists..... Hatters
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12/6/2009  10:44 PM
Let's see him average (close to) that for the season and we'll talk.
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