BRIGGS wrote:TMS wrote:BRIGGS wrote:TMS wrote:i'd give up Curry's contract, Chandler, our 2nd rounder & cash for Montaor Fishlips & Mobley's contract w/Toney Douglas & our 2nd rounder for Ellis & either Raja Bell or Speedy Claxton... that basically pays for Jeffries' contract in 2010 because of the insurance savings on Mobley's deal.
otherwise they can keep Ellis... he's not worth sacrificing a chance at a max FA this offseason.
Elis is a max FA but only being paid 11mm. He would give us a shot at getting a max fa.
getting a max FA to play w/Ellis & a collection of veteran's minimum players is not gonna attract any FA's worth getting... u need support players & no matter how u wanna talk down our young guys, they all have talent & the potential to be very nice supporting cast members to put around 2 stars... to take on Ellis' contract u have to make sure u unload either Curry or Fishlips in the process IMO... that's not even a question of my opinion either, Donnie Walsh has made it clear he won't sacrifice the cap flexibility for anyone unless he can get the players he covets, & Monta Ellis is definitely not gonna be on that short list of guys.
Id rather try to get three great players and go from there. I don't view any of our youth as players who will be great. If I had great players in place and needed a Gallinari as my outside gun in terms of balancing--that is a different story
The problem is two-fold. First, Ellis is not a pg. He is a solid scoring guard and he can dribble well enough to bring the ball up the court, but this guy has never run a pg-dominated offense. So you are taking a risk that he can actually run MDA's system. Granted a n*tless monkey could run the system better than Duhon right now, but we are not committed to Duhon longterm. Second issue is that you are giving up on Gallo and Hill without any real idea of their potential. Before teams knew Gallo will hit open shots, he was looking like a future allstar. Now teams are adjusting and Gallo still has not adjusted his game. If he can adjust and figure out how to score with people on him, we will have a very solid player. As for Hill, this kid is a bit ackward and still does not know where to be at on the court, but he has a ton of athleticism, a solid back-to-the-basket game, and already possesses a better jumpshot than Lee. Once this kid gets a better understanding of the system and gains about 10-15 lbs of muscle, there is a good chance he will be a solid PF for us. Bottomline is that Gallo and Hill might net us more than Ellis in another season. Since Ellis is not the perfect fit for what we need, I would not give up all our prospects for him. If we were trading for Chris Paul, then I could understand the move but IMO Ellis is not worth this much potential talent.
I would offer Chandler, $3 mill, Toney Douglas, and Duhon for Ellis. GS save about $5-6 mill in salary over the next 2-3 years. It opens the way for Curry to start at PG and in Douglas they have someone that has Ellis-like potential as a scorer who is also a better defender. This trade makes sense for both teams and we don't have to give up Gallo and Hill to make it happen.