franco12 wrote:But which vets are being traded? Jefferies and Curry are the main cap holds that I think most would want traded.

That doesn't explain why Duhon continue to play.

And while we can probably move Curry, he got very little playing time last night.

And lets be realistic- who is taking Jefferies off our hands? And does playing him really improve our chances, or make them worse?

If you can get first rounders for harrington, duhon, hughes... Or just getting an expiring for JJ/Curry would be nice.

martin wrote:If you can get first rounders for harrington, duhon, hughes... Or just getting an expiring for JJ/Curry would be nice.

u can't be serious

martin wrote:

franco12 wrote:But which vets are being traded? Jefferies and Curry are the main cap holds that I think most would want traded.

That doesn't explain why Duhon continue to play.

And while we can probably move Curry, he got very little playing time last night.

And lets be realistic- who is taking Jefferies off our hands? And does playing him really improve our chances, or make them worse?

If you can get first rounders for harrington, duhon, hughes... Or just getting an expiring for JJ/Curry would be nice.

look, there are 30 teams in the NBA, each with 12-15 guys. so there are roughly 400 or so guys in the NBA? the knicks cannot have anybody better than 250, i mean the talent on this team is just abysmal. almost everybody stinks. larry hughes stinks. duhon is pathetic, he clearly doesn't care. lee is OK, douglas and hill still can be OK, gallinari's got a great shot but otherwise doesn't seem to have many skills. everything else is trash. jeffries is a bum i've been saying that since they signed that guy. curry stinks.

LOL, i'm with TMS on the trade value debate. MAYBE harrington or hughes will get pawned off to a playoff team looking for a scorer off the bench, maybe. jeffries getting dealt, i mean, i just can't see how any team/scout/GM watches the knicks and thinks "i need that guy on my team." if i were the knicks i would be desperately trying to get rid of lee with either jeffries or curry, that i could see happening. curry in shape has at least some value to teams, and either pair (lee/jeffries, lee/curry) would bolster a playoff team's frontline. i don't think lee is worth the money he wants though, so it makes sense to get him out of here now with somebody else.

i've literally stopped watching the knicks, they are a horrible team. no defense, no offense really to speak of, if i want to watch guys jack up 3's i'll just head to the local Y and play a pickup game myself. i'll go to a few games if i can get $10 seats in the 400s if good players come to town, but to watch this group of players...yea right. it's going to be cruel irony when the jazz get a top 3 pick. the only players that are on next years team from this year's team should be gallinari, douglas, and hill.

bigsmOOth - from your keyboard to Donnie Walsh's iphone.

If MDA is trying to play Gallo, TD and HIll in 2010, the free agent search could start at point guard and end at center.

BRIGGS wrote:They went in last night only because we started to get destroyed. I was kind of wondering why TD especially had his minutes radically reduced. I also do not see a reason why Hill doesn't get an extended chance. Why don't they start Hill next to Lee on the frontline to give us a more normal look?
It's not like MDA has coached some kind of wizardry here--he's on the D- line. If he did not want AI because we wants to develop TG and Hill--then play them when it counts. Actually D Lee was playing pretty good and he had him sit--Jeffries absolutely was brutal and he played 20 minutes. What is his fascination with JJ and Duhon--it's because he has boasted about them and they SXCKKKK--they are TERRIBLE? What an awful decision NOT to remove Duhon for AI. We have to watch this guy do 1-7 every game and accept it. It's not to late to RETHINK that decision.

I would go 8 man and cut Duhon and JJ out.

Lee
Hill
Gallinari
TD
Hughes

Harrington
Chandler
Nate

He won't play them together because neither can sit at the 3-point line jacking up low % shots.

martin wrote:

CrushAlot wrote:

kam77 wrote:I have to laugh every time i see a post talking about firing the coach or firing the GM. It's not even worth a debate. You guys need to open a window or something. Get some fresh air. It's not about this season. Never was. NEVER WAS!

I think you have a pretty good idea that D'Antoni isn't the coach that some believed he was and that his deficits outweigh the strengths of his "system". The fact that D'Antoni will not make adjustments to make his team successful now is the same reason why he isn't in Chicago or Phoenix.

They really really really wanted him in CHI. And in PHO, they traded for Shaq, and it went so well, they traded him again and went back to what was working: MDA's system.

IMO, Mike hasn't done the best with his current group of guys, but those guys also pretty much suck. What he going to do, slow it down and let Al or Curry play post up? Run a half court offense where efficiency and looking for the best shot is key?

I wonder when posters on this board will start to realize that MDA was successful in PHX because of STEVE NASH and not his so-called "coaching"

Marv wrote:i think donnie wanted to have his double bacon and cheese whopper and eat it too. he was hoping that a team featuring hughes, al, lee, nate, duhon and darko would get into the first round of the playoffs, then he'd let them all go, sign free agents and work gallo, hill, douglas and chandler in with them. now he's sitting with a 3-11 mess that d'antoni can’t coach effectively. not sure what he tries to do now.

BigSm00th wrote:

fishmike wrote:

Marv wrote:i think donnie wanted to have his double bacon and cheese whopper and eat it too. he was hoping that a team featuring hughes, al, lee, nate, duhon and darko would get into the first round of the playoffs, then he'd let them all go, sign free agents and work gallo, hill, douglas and chandler in with them. now he's sitting with a 3-11 mess that d'antoni can’t coach effectively. not sure what he tries to do now.

agreed 100%

signing iverson was one option. the fan reaction is going to be UGLY if that pick that goes to utah is top 5. (and chances are, with the knicks luck, it'll be #1 and the point guard created by god to be in an up-tempo system -- john wall -- will go to the pick n roll utah jazz, who already have a franchise PG.)

rooting for the knicks in the 00's AKA the reason why FML was created

i'm taking the #1 pick situation with a grain of salt because i liked the marbury trade at the time. who then could forsee what a cluster-f we would be heading for - the answer is briggs. i remember him posting at the time -"we gave up too much!" of course he could have been referring to lampe