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Silverfuel
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12/24/2003  5:29 PM
OH MY GOD! PLEASE TELL ME I DIDN'T SOUND LIKE I WAS DEFENDING DOLAN THIS WHOLE TIME!
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12/24/2003  5:31 PM
Posted by Silverfuel:

OH MY GOD! PLEASE TELL ME I DIDN'T SOUND LIKE I WAS DEFENDING DOLAN THIS WHOLE TIME!

LOL
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12/24/2003  6:20 PM
Spree was yelling at Dolan&Kruger.Spree respect the players,u telling me if he was sh't to Anderson.That he wouldn't step to Spree.Anderson would have laid him out but thats besides the point.Dolan deserved it.
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12/24/2003  7:45 PM
Spree fined 25,000 he deserved it also.
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12/24/2003  8:18 PM
Posted by Swishfm3:

I don't understand how you all felt SPree disrespected the Fans and the Knicks logo??

If anything it was the players who wear the Orange and Blue that disrespected the logo by not standing up to Spree.

You all forget, but it was Spree energy and emotion that he displayed on the court as a Knick that we all fell in love with...It wasn't his INCONSISTENT Offense. Whether we like to admit it or not he represented what the Knicks USED to be...Tough, emotional & CLASSLESS.....they demanded respect, and if they didn't get it, they TOOK it.

and as far as I can tell...Spree anger was directed to Dolan and ONLY Dolan...and he was right to do that.


Minnesota's Latrell Sprewell was fined $25,000 by the NBA on Wednesday for cursing at New York Knicks chairman James Dolan and screaming at the team's bench during the Timberwolves' 98-92 win Tuesday night.


THIS IS WHY NOBODY SAID NOTHING BACK TO MEWELL THE FOOL! $$$$$
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12/24/2003  8:50 PM
If Jackson was coach, things may have turned out a little different for Spree. This warrior label fans give him is some kind of disguise for a misfit.
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12/24/2003  9:08 PM
Posted by Bobby:

If Jackson was coach, things may have turned out a little different for Spree. This warrior label fans give him is some kind of disguise for a misfit.

TELL IT!
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12/25/2003  7:43 AM
Sprewell repeatedly glared and cursed at Dolan, sitting with his wife in baseline seats near the New York bench.

He was warned about his outbursts by referee Dan Crawford before the second half, yet picked up a technical foul with 30.4 seconds left. The technical, allegedly for a profane comment to Knicks assistant coach Lon Kruger, got the Knicks within 95-92. There were reports that Sprewell even swore at Wolves coach Flip Saunders when he tried to calm Sprewell after the technical, something both the coach and player downplayed.


His followers can't see he is out of control.
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12/25/2003  8:36 AM
Asked early yesterday if he was anticipating a fine, Sprewell said: "I'm sure they're going to fine me. It's nothing new. I'm so used to fines. They think that bothers me."

-from 12/25 Frank Isola article

He's not fazed by the fine- it was worth it to him.

Let's not get twisted on semantics. There is a BIG difference between a warrior and a misfit, Bobby. Get it straight.

While some Spree hater club members (Bobby, NYK8 and Playa) are in full effect on this thread, If you would put the damn torches down and take a look at what's going on and realize that the Spree incident quite possibly may have helped this team, the energy would be much better spent.

a couple of parting shots for you...

Antonio McDyess on Latrell Sprewell's vulgar performance Tuesday at the Garden: "Oh man, he was kind of out of control. I didn't expect him to act that way. I guess he had a lot of frustration that he held in and wanted to get it out so I understand that."

"What was more eye-opening is how much the Knicks need somebody who plays ball the way Sprewell does.

Go ahead and whack Sprewell around for the way he acted when basketball wasn't being played the other night. Call him names. Get on him good for crossing the line the same way Charles Barkley did once when he spit into the crowd. But when there was basketball being played Tuesday night, Sprewell played it harder and better than anybody the Knicks had.

If the Knicks still had Sprewell playing like this - and please don't tell me he has lost a step; where was that lost step when he was blowing past Shandon Anderson in the fourth quarter after playing 40 minutes? - I believe they might be four or five games better in the standings. And you know what that means this season in the pathetically ordinary Atlantic Division?

First or second place.

The Knicks were a .500 team when Sprewell was healthy last season. You're telling me they wouldn't be now?

We are now supposed to believe that the Knicks had no choice but to get rid of a guttersnipe like this, as if he acted this way all the time. Only he did not. Despite all the hand-wringing from the television commentators, you kept waiting for one of them to point out that for all this vulgar excess, what Sprewell mostly did when the game was being played was show everybody how much the Knicks need somebody like him."

-Mike Lupica







[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 12/25/2003 08:37:25]
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12/25/2003  8:39 AM
Sadly, it took one of the lowest-paid men on the Knicks bench, assistant coach Lon Kruger, making no more than $275,000, to tell Sprewell to pipe down. Sprewell responded with an even more vulgar expletive-laced diatribe at Kruger that contained a sexual reference.

Total disrespect to a coach he had no relationship with = NO CLASS
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12/25/2003  8:52 AM
Posted by playa2:

Sadly, it took one of the lowest-paid men on the Knicks bench, assistant coach Lon Kruger, making no more than $275,000, to tell Sprewell to pipe down. Sprewell responded with an even more vulgar expletive-laced diatribe at Kruger that contained a sexual reference.

Total disrespect to a coach he had no relationship with = NO CLASS

Please man, the NY Post? They hate Spree as much as you do, so I guess you gotta keep posting clips from that rag.

Playa(self), get off the whole "class" crap. Our 10-19 record has no class. address that KNICKS business instead of getting cut up trying to hate on Spree.

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12/25/2003  8:56 AM
Despite all the excitement, Kruger was matter of fact after the game.

"It was the end of the game and he was showing emotion," Kruger said. "There's nothing wrong with that. But to go that far with Jim Dolan's family sitting there, that went too far."

This wasn't a "RUCKER PARK GAME" man get real, I guess if you ran something and a former employee did that in front of ya family it would be cool huh? I will leave this alone CUZ some just don't get it.
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12/25/2003  10:09 AM
Guess what? I would never do the shady crap that Dolan did to Spree in the first place. If I were running a team, my players would be punking other teams and winning games. Not only should a team be well-balanced skillwise to be efficient on the court, but have the nuts to handle ruckus if anyone brings it- especially in our house.

Perhaps the Knicks can take a page from the Rucker style to get some exciting, athletic, ballsy players. Thanks for bringing that one up.


[Edited by - HARDCOREKNICKSFAN on 12/25/2003 18:46:19]
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12/25/2003  10:32 AM
All you Spree haters have no clue about the game of basketball. Basketball is not meant to be played like freakin golf. Playa you wanna see class acts of boredom go to a tennis match, but you'll probably be upset at the arguing with the ref there too. The game is supposed to be played with fire and trash talk, real bball comes from Rucker Park exactly, inner city courts are the soul of the game. You ever played on a playground in Brooklyn playa? You have any idea how to even play ball? I don't even know why I bother with you, you'll keep riding Spree **ck no matter what, probably cause you had a crush on him and he never wrote a response to that passionate email you sent him .
A glimmer of hope maybe?!?
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12/25/2003  12:11 PM
Posted by simrud:

All you Spree haters have no clue about the game of basketball. Basketball is not meant to be played like freakin golf. Playa you wanna see class acts of boredom go to a tennis match, but you'll probably be upset at the arguing with the ref there too. The game is supposed to be played with fire and trash talk, real bball comes from Rucker Park exactly, inner city courts are the soul of the game. You ever played on a playground in Brooklyn playa? You have any idea how to even play ball? I don't even know why I bother with you, you'll keep riding Spree **ck no matter what, probably cause you had a crush on him and he never wrote a response to that passionate email you sent him .
NBA is not streetball. They have very strict rules. Players get fined for not tucking in their jersey's and get called for checking people on defense. The only common thing between streetball and NBA basketball is that you put the ball in the hoop without going out of bounds.

Spree was wrong in cursing out whoever he cursed out in the court. Wether it was justified or not is another argument and the players not sticking up for Lon Kruger or for themselves is another thing too. Hopefully Zeke starts cleaning house with the softest of the soft. (Don Chaney)

[Edited by - Silverfuel on 12/25/2003 12:14:15]
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12/25/2003  1:12 PM
"The only common thing between streetball and NBA basketball is that you put the ball in the hoop without going out of bounds."

hahahahahahaha

good one Silver!
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12/25/2003  1:13 PM
true,,,,,

i can't really get excited about anything unless Chaney is fired. and I'm confident he will be soon
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12/25/2003  2:16 PM
What I really find interesting is when Tim Hardaway was all up in Spree's grill only to have Spree's retaliation on the whining whimsical side compared to the explicits he used a couple of nights ago elevated Spree to the type of player he really wants you to believe. Sorry, I refuse to buy into any of his shenanigans.

If Spree has that much beef against Dolan, call Vince McMahon, and sign a cage match. Otherwise, please keep it NBA.
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12/25/2003  2:40 PM
When was Tim Hardaway up in Spree's grill, Bobby? How long ago was that? Did any of the Knicks players have Tim Hardaway on the brain when Spree went off? No. They sat there or stood there and swallowed their spit.

Besides, it exposed alot about the team that Isaiah needs to and will change. Hate Spree if that's what rocks your boat, but after getting humiliated on Tuesday night, IMO Dolan and Isaiah don't want a repeat performance. Now we see what Dolan's vision of character is- soft, timid, passive. We need players that have the fire and passion like Spree has. Someone who can talk the talk and back it up on the court like what Spree did to us on Tuesday.
Another season, and more adversity to persevere through. We will get the job done, even BETTER than last year. GO KNICKS!
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12/25/2003  5:35 PM
I agree. The one good thing about what happened in that game with sprewell going off on the knick owner and the knick ass.coach was it exposed severe deficiences in the New York roster. We lack the ferocity that a New York team should never lose. Kinda like Pedro hitting Jeter and Soriano back to back and Mussina not retaliating.

Not only will Dolan be too humiliated to be adamant about his retarded philosophy of questionable character, it will also give Zeke almost free reign to do what is neccessary. And about spree, I dont like him anymore! I cannot. But thats just me cause I can see he hasn't even lost any support on our Forum.
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