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misterearl
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11/16/2009  3:52 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2009  3:53 PM
Expect The Unexpected

Douglas - for toughness, leadership and determination
Gallo - for ball movement and outside range, guaranteed more touches at off guard
The Mayor - see above
Hill - post presence on defense, mid range jumpshot is worth exploring as an option
Curry - post presence, at least on offense, the goatee is a nice accent

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11/16/2009  4:04 PM
misterearl wrote:Expect The Unexpected

Douglas - for toughness, leadership and determination
Gallo - for ball movement and outside range, guaranteed more touches at off guard
The Mayor - see above
Hill - post presence on defense, mid range jumpshot is worth exploring as an option
Curry - post presence, at least on offense, the goatee is a nice accent

Well, if all the doomsayers are right, that'll be our 2010 starting rotation. So, might as well start now.

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11/16/2009  4:08 PM
EwingsGlass wrote:
misterearl wrote:Expect The Unexpected

Douglas - for toughness, leadership and determination
Gallo - for ball movement and outside range, guaranteed more touches at off guard
The Mayor - see above
Hill - post presence on defense, mid range jumpshot is worth exploring as an option
Curry - post presence, at least on offense, the goatee is a nice accent

Well, if all the doomsayers are right, that'll be our 2010 starting rotation. So, might as well start now.

I'd like to see what that line up could do - not sure about having Chandler back at the 2, or Gallo - maybe Hughes or Nate?

But Curry and Hill up front could be a physically imposing line up, and sure worth a change from watching Lee get pushed around.

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11/16/2009  4:11 PM
Chandler has been our 2nd worst player next to Duhon... He takes more bad shots than Jamal... Seriously... At least Jamal had a chance to hit most of the shots he took
misterearl
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11/16/2009  4:18 PM    LAST EDITED: 11/16/2009  4:19 PM
Elite - let's not get crazy. I would gladly entertain any empirical evidence to back your ridiculous claim that the play of The Mayor is anywhere near as abysmal as that of Chris Duhon. Yes, his shooting percentage has been lower and I have been pleading with him to fall out of love with the three, but that can - and will - be changed. He was being played at a new position, guard, and attempting to play like a guard. That requires time and patience.

Sometimes, I wonder in what context "the most knowledgeable fans" are evaluating players?

Second worst player?

I don't think so. Not by any stretch.

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11/16/2009  4:24 PM
misterearl wrote:Elite - let's not get crazy. I would gladly entertain any empirical evidence to back your ridiculous claim that the play of The Mayor is anywhere near as abysmal as that of Chris Duhon. Yes, his shooting percentage has been lower and I have been pleading with him to fall out of love with the three, but that can - and will - be changed. He was being played at a new position, guard, and attempting to play like a guard. That requires time and patience.

Sometimes, I wonder in what context "the most knowledgeable fans" are evaluating players?

Second worst player?

I don't think so. Not by any stretch.

haha, now that IS funny.

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11/16/2009  4:59 PM
Yea, MDA, this is the line-up move you want to make.
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11/16/2009  5:03 PM
All these Larry brown like line ups..its a wonder we look lost on most nights, guys are completely loss with there roles. 10 games into the seasonn along with 7 in the preseaon and were still clueless. Not to mention that this team has been together for 2 seasons..when the problem isn't just the shooting, you now find yourself not being able to score or defend, how are you even on the court if at least one is not carrying you.
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11/16/2009  5:05 PM
knicks1248 wrote:All these Larry brown like line ups..its a wonder we look lost on most nights, guys are completely loss with there roles. 10 games into the seasonn along with 7 in the preseaon and were still clueless. Not to mention that this team has been together for 2 seasons..when the problem isn't just the shooting, you now find yourself not being able to score or defend, how are you even on the court if at least one is not carrying you.

I agree that It's Larry's fault. I also wish he'd stop putting guys in the starting line up just because the Knicks are playing in the player's home town.

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11/16/2009  6:08 PM
knicks1248 wrote:All these Larry brown like line ups..its a wonder we look lost on most nights, guys are completely loss with there roles. 10 games into the seasonn along with 7 in the preseaon and were still clueless. Not to mention that this team has been together for 2 seasons..when the problem isn't just the shooting, you now find yourself not being able to score or defend, how are you even on the court if at least one is not carrying you.

We are down 20 points every night. If the team stops getting down 20 points every night I'm sure the coach would stick with the line-up. Until then, why would he stand pat?

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11/17/2009  12:49 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:All these Larry brown like line ups..its a wonder we look lost on most nights, guys are completely loss with there roles. 10 games into the seasonn along with 7 in the preseaon and were still clueless. Not to mention that this team has been together for 2 seasons..when the problem isn't just the shooting, you now find yourself not being able to score or defend, how are you even on the court if at least one is not carrying you.

We are down 20 points every night. If the team stops getting down 20 points every night I'm sure the coach would stick with the line-up. Until then, why would he stand pat?

The coach needs to work on these players' effort level.

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11/17/2009  1:38 AM
You may continue to change line ups all day, if a player can't develop into his role how is he suppose to grow.

You keep shifting chandler all over the court, now the bench, how is that helping him or the team. Same for every one else. How are you suppose to be good at any one thing when the first few times you screw up, the coach decides to put you some where else with similar results..It's no different from walsh sticking to his plan and not deviating from it after a few tempting phone calls. After 2 or 3 line up changes you got to make a decision IMO or else dysfunctional sets in. Weather the player takes it well or not, you wanna know your role coming in the door especially if what your doing otherwise ain't working. I can't remember any team having success with 10 to 15 line up changes with the same 12 players.

We haven't had a whole lot of players injured, player movement, or a coaching change. MDA has no clue cause he has no lagit starter on this team, and has yet to even establish a 6th man, which is pretty ridiculous at this point. I mean a 1-9 start coming from a highly respected coach with a half decent roster is unexceptable by any stretch.

Maybe you should go back to the late shoot arounds... ya think..the players are losing focus at any giving moment, the start of games, middle, ending, doesn't matter.

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11/17/2009  8:43 AM
knicks1248 wrote:You may continue to change line ups all day, if a player can't develop into his role how is he suppose to grow.

You keep shifting chandler all over the court, now the bench, how is that helping him or the team. Same for every one else. How are you suppose to be good at any one thing when the first few times you screw up, the coach decides to put you some where else with similar results..It's no different from walsh sticking to his plan and not deviating from it after a few tempting phone calls. After 2 or 3 line up changes you got to make a decision IMO or else dysfunctional sets in. Weather the player takes it well or not, you wanna know your role coming in the door especially if what your doing otherwise ain't working. I can't remember any team having success with 10 to 15 line up changes with the same 12 players.

We haven't had a whole lot of players injured, player movement, or a coaching change. MDA has no clue cause he has no lagit starter on this team, and has yet to even establish a 6th man, which is pretty ridiculous at this point. I mean a 1-9 start coming from a highly respected coach with a half decent roster is unexceptable by any stretch.

Maybe you should go back to the late shoot arounds... ya think..the players are losing focus at any giving moment, the start of games, middle, ending, doesn't matter.

So we sleep walk through the beginnign of every game. We find ourselves down 20 every night, and the coach is supposed to stick with those line-ups. It appears that this is what you are saying. Coaches don't assign roles. You step up and take a role. If you don't step up and take it, it is the coaches job to find someone who will. So far Toney Douglas is the only one that has clearly stepped up and taken a role for himself.

We said these exact same words during LB's year. He didn't define roles. The players then quit and we as fans rejoiced.

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11/17/2009  10:54 AM
Bippity10 wrote:
knicks1248 wrote:You may continue to change line ups all day, if a player can't develop into his role how is he suppose to grow.

You keep shifting chandler all over the court, now the bench, how is that helping him or the team. Same for every one else. How are you suppose to be good at any one thing when the first few times you screw up, the coach decides to put you some where else with similar results..It's no different from walsh sticking to his plan and not deviating from it after a few tempting phone calls. After 2 or 3 line up changes you got to make a decision IMO or else dysfunctional sets in. Weather the player takes it well or not, you wanna know your role coming in the door especially if what your doing otherwise ain't working. I can't remember any team having success with 10 to 15 line up changes with the same 12 players.

We haven't had a whole lot of players injured, player movement, or a coaching change. MDA has no clue cause he has no lagit starter on this team, and has yet to even establish a 6th man, which is pretty ridiculous at this point. I mean a 1-9 start coming from a highly respected coach with a half decent roster is unexceptable by any stretch.

Maybe you should go back to the late shoot arounds... ya think..the players are losing focus at any giving moment, the start of games, middle, ending, doesn't matter.

So we sleep walk through the beginnign of every game. We find ourselves down 20 every night, and the coach is supposed to stick with those line-ups. It appears that this is what you are saying. Coaches don't assign roles. You step up and take a role. If you don't step up and take it, it is the coaches job to find someone who will. So far Toney Douglas is the only one that has clearly stepped up and taken a role for himself.

We said these exact same words during LB's year. He didn't define roles. The players then quit and we as fans rejoiced.

I remember that fondly too.

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