nixluva wrote:My Sig has been saying all year. It's all about flexibility and then building a contender. It's not about what we've been doing signing guys that aren't really capable of helping you win a title to big dollars. We'll finally be in a good position to make any kind of deal we want. If not a FA signing there's still the possibility of trades.

I don't think Walsh or MDA have given up on this season yet only 10 game in. They have to keep pressing to see what they can do the get this team playing much better. There may yet be a small deal that can give us the help we need. Remember they kept that open roster spot. I think they want to see if guys like Duhon will eventually come around and get out of their slump. We've got several guys deep in slumps right now. The only place to go is up from here.

If we can get to the point where the young core looks strong and promising, there's still a chance we might be able to pry a free agent loose. Especially since we can sell them on the fact that in 2011 we can get even better, plus the fact that we won't have any fear of spending money to get them what they need even if it put us over the cap at some point.

Imagine if you will, that Isiah hadn't traded away that draft pick. How good would we be looking with all the endign contracts, cap space and a lottery pick. It's really a shame.

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Finestrg wrote:I like Bosh as a player a lot. What's not to like? What irked me just a little is the snicker & comments he had for some reporter when asked about possibly coming to NY as a FA. I mean what the hell's so funny Chris? In the same interview (it may have been something someone posted on their twitter page somewhere), he also lost patience, got a little short with the reporter & had some comments that kinda indicated NY was a joke to him if I remember right.. I mean if that's the case, I big fat FU to Chris Bosh. You don't wanna be here, don't come here. I don't want you then. Anyone else remember reading this? Kinda pissed me off a little at the time. I remember thinking, wow, who's this prima donna? Instead of being flattered and saying the right things, he chose to disrespect us a little bit. Funny how Colangelo said recently that he may not even be part of Toronto's plans if he wants max. money -- be careful what you say and who you laugh at Bosh, NY might wind up being your best or only shot at getting the kind of money you want...

Check that, my bad - it was a conversation Bosh had with his agent Ismail Humet on the phone. Apparently this dude Humet went to Hofstra & is a huge Knick fan. When he posed the idea to his client, Bosh laughed it off. I think the conversation was supposedly on ustream.com at one point but I can't seem to locate it. Here's a link to the articles:

http://www.nypost.com/p/blogs/bosh_laughs_at_idea_of_knicks_pu6lL8sinew7i4MXiimaNI

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/morning-jolt/07/23/morning_jolt/index.html

What do you guys think about this?

Bosh addressed the issue and said he wasn't dis'ing the Knicks at all, he just thought it was funny that everyone is talking about who the Knicks are going to sign. I bet he woud love a chance to help this franchise over staying in Toronto.

Folks who say no FA will want to come to the Knicks are insane. I think they ALL will want to come here. They know our salary cap situation is getting resolved. They know we are committed to winning. They know we are going to jettison our lame, no-D-playing guys asap. And they can see the upside from our young core.

The chance to make history in the Garden is a compelling idea to max FA type guys like Bosh et al. I am not worried. If we don't sign one of them next summer, I will be very surprised. And you can link back to this thread and tell me I was out of my mind.

Until then, I am full speed ahead for a max FA + Rubio.

BRIGGS wrote:My feeling is we should be very conservative--perhaps doing what Detroit did--spending less for two quality players and holding the cap space until we really get a worthy max free agent. We have to be very smart, opportunistic and reasonable with who gets what. If we have to pass-we pass. I accept that we are in full rebuilding mode and it will be 3-4 years unless we hit a miracle on the river.

I think Detroit got Gordon for 11mm and CV for 7mm and look at their production + they are winning without Prince and Rip.

Id rather go slow and build strong--then going overboard on non-worthy players. I think it's in the team best intersts for NO short cuts after this. We have atleast 2 promising young players--I would like to see more of Hill as well. Chandler is a ? He has never been consistent healthy or not--kind of stuck between a F and G as well. Doesnt bring it enough--I would be willing to move him--example Portland lost both SF--I like Bayless and I think he would well here--I would be willing to do Chandler for Bayless--I'd be willing to trade any vet on a last year contract for deals like this as well.

I accept at this point this is full rebulding--I have 0 expectation for the year except development and opportunistic trades. No screaming from me anymore--although the one serious area of concern is the coach--I think he has to be flexible in the way he does several things on the court.

The bottom line is you dont go from this horror to a 50 win team overnight. We dont seem to have luck--so it's going to be brick by brick.

And we can do nothing about the lost pick. I think we have two two's one of which should be like a low 1. Instead of a pick we will[Im sure get atleast one nice piece in FA--that will be our lost lottery pick 3-4 days later]

I'd probably do the Chandler for Bayless deal that you suggested, because I think Bayless will, in the end, be the better player. My only problem with that deal is that we then have two young undersized 2's who don't have the court vision to play the point. The nice thing about Chandler is that he's comfortable playing three positions.

You're right when you say the focus should be on rebuilding. Even if, by some miracle, we make the playoffs, what could we do when we got there.