misterearl wrote:jimimou - that was a great afternoon in section 404.

I may be old school but I also understand that time moves on. The old guys sweeping the Garden floor at half time would never keep fans engaged the way sexy city dancers, contests and taped ads can. Our senses are conditioned to expect and want more. I'm cool with that. What I resent is the huge dose of dishonesty that the noise is dispensed with.

If our beloved team is 1-6 they don't pass go, they don't collect $200 and the DEFINITELY don't get dapped up by some announcer telling me to "stand up and cheer..."

It is 2009.

Is it too much to ask for a iPhone app that allows a ticket buyer in the blue seats (only) to send a text that is immediately posted (in large letters in any color I choose) on a flat screen monitor at the locker of any Knicks player?

Now, That's entertainment.

HOLY SHIT!
Who are you?! and what have you done with Earl?!

jimimou wrote:the fans that watch the knicks today are not those same fans earl. today's garden is filled w tourists and school kids and corporate bozos who are there for a night at the theater rather than to support their home team. i remember watching games at the garden back in the early 90's where you would get killed (not literally but def some mustard squeezed on it and beer thrown on it) if you wore the other team's jersey and sat in the upper deck....thi steam, the cyulture created by dolan and company, is just god aweful. and, i fear it will only get worse if lebron comes.

it's funny how the fan culture in the NBA differs so widely from other basketball leagues - especially compared to European games..

People just sit back and eat their hotdogs, and the courtside seats are so expensive that only "corporate bozos" can afford them.. But that's just my prejudice - I've only been to 4 NBA games in my life so feel free to correct me.

skeng wrote:

jimimou wrote:the fans that watch the knicks today are not those same fans earl. today's garden is filled w tourists and school kids and corporate bozos who are there for a night at the theater rather than to support their home team. i remember watching games at the garden back in the early 90's where you would get killed (not literally but def some mustard squeezed on it and beer thrown on it) if you wore the other team's jersey and sat in the upper deck....thi steam, the cyulture created by dolan and company, is just god aweful. and, i fear it will only get worse if lebron comes.

it's funny how the fan culture in the NBA differs so widely from other basketball leagues - especially compared to European games..

People just sit back and eat their hotdogs, and the courtside seats are so expensive that only "corporate bozos" can afford them.. But that's just my prejudice - I've only been to 4 NBA games in my life so feel free to correct me.

imho - not gonna lump the soccer fans in europe whose fandom is just plain out of this world, but other than that, nothing beats going to a euro basketball game skeng - ive seen a bunch of teams play when in greece and they go all out flat out ridiculous for their teams. i was at a game once where some dude lit-up a flare INSDIE the building as olympiakos was about to beat a rival team.

jimimou wrote:

skeng wrote:

jimimou wrote:the fans that watch the knicks today are not those same fans earl. today's garden is filled w tourists and school kids and corporate bozos who are there for a night at the theater rather than to support their home team. i remember watching games at the garden back in the early 90's where you would get killed (not literally but def some mustard squeezed on it and beer thrown on it) if you wore the other team's jersey and sat in the upper deck....thi steam, the cyulture created by dolan and company, is just god aweful. and, i fear it will only get worse if lebron comes.

it's funny how the fan culture in the NBA differs so widely from other basketball leagues - especially compared to European games..

People just sit back and eat their hotdogs, and the courtside seats are so expensive that only "corporate bozos" can afford them.. But that's just my prejudice - I've only been to 4 NBA games in my life so feel free to correct me.

imho - not gonna lump the soccer fans in europe whose fandom is just plain out of this world, but other than that, nothing beats going to a euro basketball game skeng - ive seen a bunch of teams play when in greece and they go all out flat out ridiculous for their teams. i was at a game once where some dude lit-up a flare INSDIE the building as olympiakos was about to beat a rival team.

that gives me an idea for the big portland game we're all going to. it involves fishmike, a plate of beans and a lighter.

misterearl wrote:Words To Live By... Courtesy of The Answer Man

Panos - you funny. Never, EVER, let it be said that The Answer Man is a one trick pony.

It is one thing to be a loyal fan - quite another to recognize the okey-doak from the blue seats. When the hype takes precedent over substance, even though it is strictly business, The Answer Man takes it very personally.

Unlike MS, I have not lost all faith in my beloved franchise. I need the all the suits to stop over-selling a lie. Not just the suits at 2 Penn Plaza. The careless editors who decide on headlines, the people who have the ear of anyone in the Dolan family who could not tell a basketball from the front bumper of a Ford Taurus, and the local market impostors masquerading as sports journalists. Stop over-selling a lie.

Sometimes, even The Answer Man needs to rally his diverse following and shine a halogen spotlight on the money changers in the temple that once was The World's Most Famous Arena. In the immortal words of Floyd Mayweather's trainer (his Uncle Roger), before the start of the final round of his recent title bout against Juan Marquez,

"keep on doin what you doin... and stay away from that tricky ****...!"

it all turns around tonight earl. wait and see.

The Answer Man just needs the experience to be authentic when it comes back around in 2011. Not something plastic, toxic or mass produced.

I don't want music playing when the ball is in play, I don't want to hear a single freakin word about Stephon Marbury, ever... and I don't care who is seated court side unless it is the son of Dancing Harry.

...last but not least, bring back the white warmup jackets.

Where do you think the Lakers stole the idea to change the lighting of The Staples Center from?

Just win baby sounds good in theory, but even the Oakland Raiders "Committment To Excellence" rings hollow in Alameda County.

Make my funk the P funk!

skeng wrote:

jimimou wrote:

skeng wrote:

jimimou wrote:the fans that watch the knicks today are not those same fans earl. today's garden is filled w tourists and school kids and corporate bozos who are there for a night at the theater rather than to support their home team. i remember watching games at the garden back in the early 90's where you would get killed (not literally but def some mustard squeezed on it and beer thrown on it) if you wore the other team's jersey and sat in the upper deck....thi steam, the cyulture created by dolan and company, is just god aweful. and, i fear it will only get worse if lebron comes.

it's funny how the fan culture in the NBA differs so widely from other basketball leagues - especially compared to European games..

People just sit back and eat their hotdogs, and the courtside seats are so expensive that only "corporate bozos" can afford them.. But that's just my prejudice - I've only been to 4 NBA games in my life so feel free to correct me.

imho - not gonna lump the soccer fans in europe whose fandom is just plain out of this world, but other than that, nothing beats going to a euro basketball game skeng - ive seen a bunch of teams play when in greece and they go all out flat out ridiculous for their teams. i was at a game once where some dude lit-up a flare INSDIE the building as olympiakos was about to beat a rival team.

exactly - it's ridiculous.. and btw, wasn't talking about soccer, because that's just insane. Hooligans, people storming the field - we had a national game against Sweden last year (in soccer, sorry guys) where a dude ran on to the field and tried to punch the referee for giving the Swedes a penalty kick.. Sometimes it gets out of control.

But back to the subject, I also reckon that this passiveness isn't just in the NBA. Imo it's in the NFL and MLB too.. It's only when playoffs arrive that the real fandom shows imho.

if ever in ny, go to a yankee game and sit with the bleacher creatures (section in the outfield where alot of die hard yankee fans sit - blue collar people - and you will see the closest thing to what you've witnessed to euro fandom...playoffs or not.

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BasketballJones wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:

BasketballJones wrote:

Bippity10 wrote:Earl, great post. I was thinking the same thing.

I posted too. How come you never praise me for my great posts?

Because you are a nimrod

That's mean. I feel very unmotivated about my posting right now.

Are you trying to pull the "Bip stole my joy" card?

"Bip stole my joy" is not a card.