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umynot
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11/8/2009  2:47 PM
is Tyreke a Knick? NO!!!.............. Was 4th pick we had the eighth pick!!

Why are we even talking bout him!!

If we had 4th pick we would of drafted him or Curry

We didnt though so why are we discussing it?

KNICKS on the way UP!!!
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11/8/2009  3:49 PM
Evans looks like a very nice young player but why are we making comparisons with Gallo here? first of all they were taken in different draft years & second of all, we had no chance at picking Evans.
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11/8/2009  4:32 PM
King1 wrote:Right now Gallo is a lottery pick shooter. He doesnt play any defense and he doesnt rebound. I think he will be fine but physically he isnt ready for that. He has to get stronger and be able to put the ball on the floor. He tries and I am fine with him but he a long way to go. I still wish we had a backcourt of EG and Jennings

Honestly do you actually get to see the team play? ...Just wondering. You do realize that repeating an opinion that is not backed by any evidence does not make it true.

His body needs hardening, and he is only going to get more rebounds when he is playing PF (and even then I don't see him as a dominating rebounder,anyway), but defensively he is one of the most aware players on the team, maybe the most aware except for Douglas or Hughes, and he is probably wasting too much effort and energy trying to play his man on the wing AND attempting to clog up the middle, where our bigs leave our basket as unprotected as the private part of a woman of ill repute.

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11/8/2009  4:41 PM
King1 wrote:Right now Gallo is a lottery pick shooter. He doesnt play any defense and he doesnt rebound. I think he will be fine but physically he isnt ready for that. He has to get stronger and be able to put the ball on the floor. He tries and I am fine with him but he a long way to go. I still wish we had a backcourt of EG and Jennings

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11/8/2009  4:53 PM
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Paladin55 wrote:Until the Utah game, Evans was averaging 11 PPG, 3 APG, was shooting a little over 30% on FGs, and a little over 11% from the 3, with a free throw % of 55%, and he was averaging 2.5 turnovers/game.

I know he had an injury issue, but he has been playing solid minutes without really showing much so far, hardly #4 pick quality.

He is not a PG, no matter where they pencil him into the lineup, and probably more of a "scorer" than a classic "shooting" guard who will hit the open J when it presents itself.

Why do some people on UK wait for certain players to have good games and then praise the hell out of them, while ignoring the poor games they played, while for other players, they immediately point to their bad games and call them busts? Where were the folks who gushed over Evans prior to the draft, during those games when the numbers posted above were being played out?

Evans and Martin are not going to be able to play together- seems pretty obvious that Evans has to be the leading man in his teams offense or his game will suffer.

Curry, Flynn, or Jennings would have been better picks for Sacramento if they plan on keeping Martin.

I have tremendous faith that Evans will be a star in this league. He was the youngest of all the top picks--just turned 20 last month. Put it this way--we see a lot of gushing about Gallinari--in his 30+ games--has he ever willed his team to victory over a good team--scored 32 points with 7 dimes and get to the FL[wow]19 times? He was playing with a very good SG in Martin and there is adjustment period there. How many players have the ability to get to the FT line 19 times in one game in their career let alone 20 days after their 20th birthday? I think with Evans its going to be can he keep his FG% at 45 and if he can improve his FT to 80[because he will get there a lot] We have 22 year olds who will us to come back to 18 from 35 down.


Briggs, you just don't listen, bro. You have that tunnel vision when it comes to some things. I never said or implied that Evans is not going to be a good or great player. And I don't "gush" about players- although I do like pointing out when certain players who some have called busts turn out not to be busts.

Please read my post and respond to what I wrote, not what you think you saw.

And be consistent in your criticism and your praise or damnation of players- try not to cherry pick at a time that seems to support your point of view while overlooking evidence that goes against your position.

By the way, Evans was not playing with Martin last night, and I think that is telling.

This was a criticism of Evans in college, too. He is a scorer, and may become a stud in this league, but SO FAR (Please note what I am writing- I do not mean that what I am about to say will never happen!) he has not shown a consistent ability to make the others on his team better.

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11/11/2009  12:48 AM
subzero0 wrote:32pts 7asts to push his team past the Utah Jazz tonight. I think he is going to be a really solid guard for Sacramento. Good pickup for them.

Nearly a triple double tonight. 3-0 since Martin went out.

I like the way the Kings have rebuilt the team. If we didnt have MDA--the way I would do it is find a 7' center and a 6-10+ PF as the foundation and build back like the Kings are doing. Were trying to identify players who will fit the system????? instead of building a team the right way.

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11/11/2009  4:46 AM
seriously, tyreke is beasting.

This draft IS a good draft. we just got screwed.

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11/11/2009  6:23 AM
Caseloads wrote:seriously, tyreke is beasting.

This draft IS a good draft. we just got screwed.

Too soon to tell. Douglas might turn into a starter, and I think Hill has more potential than he has showed so far. You are right though, this draft was not as bad as advertised. Plenty of top notch players and even more solid prospects.

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11/11/2009  7:18 AM
Dude, douglas is not Evans. Evans is a beast. Douglas MIGHT be serviceable.

Evans is the LeBron James of PGs with that size

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11/11/2009  7:40 AM
I agree that Evans is going to have a great career in this league, but he is more of a 2 than a point. He can get away with playing the point, but he won't distribute the ball very well. If the Kings want to move Martin (I don't think they do), they should be looking for a trade that includes a good and young point guard like Rubio or Curry.
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11/11/2009  8:43 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
tkf wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
Paladin55 wrote:Until the Utah game, Evans was averaging 11 PPG, 3 APG, was shooting a little over 30% on FGs, and a little over 11% from the 3, with a free throw % of 55%, and he was averaging 2.5 turnovers/game.

I know he had an injury issue, but he has been playing solid minutes without really showing much so far, hardly #4 pick quality.

He is not a PG, no matter where they pencil him into the lineup, and probably more of a "scorer" than a classic "shooting" guard who will hit the open J when it presents itself.

Why do some people on UK wait for certain players to have good games and then praise the hell out of them, while ignoring the poor games they played, while for other players, they immediately point to their bad games and call them busts? Where were the folks who gushed over Evans prior to the draft, during those games when the numbers posted above were being played out?

Evans and Martin are not going to be able to play together- seems pretty obvious that Evans has to be the leading man in his teams offense or his game will suffer.

Curry, Flynn, or Jennings would have been better picks for Sacramento if they plan on keeping Martin.

I have tremendous faith that Evans will be a star in this league. He was the youngest of all the top picks--just turned 20 last month. Put it this way--we see a lot of gushing about Gallinari--in his 30+ games--has he ever willed his team to victory over a good team--scored 32 points with 7 dimes and get to the FL[wow]19 times? He was playing with a very good SG in Martin and there is adjustment period there. How many players have the ability to get to the FT line 19 times in one game in their career let alone 20 days after their 20th birthday? I think with Evans its going to be can he keep his FG% at 45 and if he can improve his FT to 80[because he will get there a lot] We have 22 year olds who will us to come back to 18 from 35 down.

Briggs, as it stands right now, utah is not a good team bro.....


Put it this way--we see a lot of gushing about Gallinari--in his 30+ games--has he ever willed his team to victory over a good team--scored 32 points with 7 dimes and get to the FL[wow]19 times? He was playing with a very good SG in Martin and there is adjustment period there. How many players have the ability to get to the FT line 19 times in one game in their career let alone 20 days after their 20th birthday?

All I can do is .. LOL......

wow....

I don't get it--explain to me what is funny? I havent seen Gallo will us to anything and tyreke did it in his 5th game. Utah IS a very good team--I dont care if they are 2-4--are you comparing Utah to Charlotte Indiana and the Bucks in anyway--then i would have to say you do not watch much basketball--
by the way we lost to all of those shtty tams--we are TERRIBLE and no player has stood out on a 1-6 team that has been down 25 or more 4 times already in the first half of games.

That is kind of absurd to be dissing a 20 year old who just put up 32-7-3 in a W. Wish we had those problems. And if you cant explain your point other than LOL--don't waste space because that means nothing other than you cant answer the question.

dissin? LOL.. I didn't say anything about evans. I am laughing at another one of your post where you overreact to one game by a player.. and why bring up gallo? I thought this was about tyreke evans... with comments like that, your agenda with these types of post is so transparent..

but carry on... in true briggs fashion...

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/11/2009  8:44 AM
Paladin55 wrote:
King1 wrote:Right now Gallo is a lottery pick shooter. He doesnt play any defense and he doesnt rebound. I think he will be fine but physically he isnt ready for that. He has to get stronger and be able to put the ball on the floor. He tries and I am fine with him but he a long way to go. I still wish we had a backcourt of EG and Jennings

Honestly do you actually get to see the team play? ...Just wondering. You do realize that repeating an opinion that is not backed by any evidence does not make it true.

His body needs hardening, and he is only going to get more rebounds when he is playing PF (and even then I don't see him as a dominating rebounder,anyway), but defensively he is one of the most aware players on the team, maybe the most aware except for Douglas or Hughes, and he is probably wasting too much effort and energy trying to play his man on the wing AND attempting to clog up the middle, where our bigs leave our basket as unprotected as the private part of a woman of ill repute.

Just tell him that gallo doesn't play for the knicks and you will see a completely different post....
Put any player in a knick uniform and the love affair ends....

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11/11/2009  8:50 AM
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subzero0 wrote:32pts 7asts to push his team past the Utah Jazz tonight. I think he is going to be a really solid guard for Sacramento. Good pickup for them.

Nearly a triple double tonight. 3-0 since Martin went out.

I like the way the Kings have rebuilt the team. If we didnt have MDA--the way I would do it is find a 7' center and a 6-10+ PF as the foundation and build back like the Kings are doing. Were trying to identify players who will fit the system????? instead of building a team the right way.

so the wins have nothing to do with the play of udrih, casspi or hawes? they beat the thunder at home last night.. evans had 20/8/8 and 5 turnovers shooting a horrible 5-16 from the field.. so I guess that erractic performance was the reason? not jason Thompson's 21/14, or nocioni scoring 16 points or hawes 12/8/4blocks.. not it was all evans leading them.. right? LOL.. wow.

Anyone who sits around and waits for the lottery to better themselves, either in real life or in sports, Is a Loser............... TKF
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11/11/2009  8:57 AM
Ira wrote:I agree that Evans is going to have a great career in this league, but he is more of a 2 than a point. He can get away with playing the point, but he won't distribute the ball very well. If the Kings want to move Martin (I don't think they do), they should be looking for a trade that includes a good and young point guard like Rubio or Curry.

They could fetch a nice sum for Martin. Martin isn't the two way player Tyreke is--he's a better shooter but he is not a better player. It's only a three game sample since Martin left the team but 25-6-5 and 3-0 is about as good as you can do.

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11/11/2009  9:54 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
Ira wrote:I agree that Evans is going to have a great career in this league, but he is more of a 2 than a point. He can get away with playing the point, but he won't distribute the ball very well. If the Kings want to move Martin (I don't think they do), they should be looking for a trade that includes a good and young point guard like Rubio or Curry.

They could fetch a nice sum for Martin. Martin isn't the two way player Tyreke is--he's a better shooter but he is not a better player. It's only a three game sample since Martin left the team but 25-6-5 and 3-0 is about as good as you can do.


martin would look good next to lebrons
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11/11/2009  10:09 AM
BRIGGS wrote:
subzero0 wrote:32pts 7asts to push his team past the Utah Jazz tonight. I think he is going to be a really solid guard for Sacramento. Good pickup for them.

Nearly a triple double tonight. 3-0 since Martin went out.

I like the way the Kings have rebuilt the team. If we didnt have MDA--the way I would do it is find a 7' center and a 6-10+ PF as the foundation and build back like the Kings are doing. Were trying to identify players who will fit the system????? instead of building a team the right way.

I totally agree, so when leave we're SOL

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11/11/2009  10:11 AM
buddapaw wrote:
BRIGGS wrote:
subzero0 wrote:32pts 7asts to push his team past the Utah Jazz tonight. I think he is going to be a really solid guard for Sacramento. Good pickup for them.

Nearly a triple double tonight. 3-0 since Martin went out.

I like the way the Kings have rebuilt the team. If we didnt have MDA--the way I would do it is find a 7' center and a 6-10+ PF as the foundation and build back like the Kings are doing. Were trying to identify players who will fit the system????? instead of building a team the right way.

I totally agree, so when leave we're SOL

from SSOL to SOL?

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11/11/2009  10:16 AM
evans is also shooting 37% from the field and 25% from three. this isn't an effective scorer, he's a volume chucker it seems. plus it's sacramento. tony campbell scored 20ppg for the wolves in 1990 i think. and he sucks.
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