I thought by most standards it takes 3 years to sort out how the players develop and evaluate the draft. But y'all figured this out in a week!

How about if Hill starts getting run in the second half of the season and does well making Dlee expendable for cap space or sign and trade?

Walsh thinks Hill can be somthing special.

Must fans really second guess every player every week that does better then our pick and microevaluate it. Im sure fans of every team does this.

Good for Skiles and Jennings that after preseason and the first week there is love. Jennings has been nothing but a horses ass verbally but at least he is letting his game do the talking now. In NY he would be in a different fishbowl with more pressure.

Funny, We blast walsh about gallo who did somting in that euro league but Jennings does little and we are ok with passing him by until his Hall of Fame status is confirmed in the first few games.

You know that Hill is only two years younger than Darko?

He's the same age as Chandler who people are killing on the other thread as if he's a finished product. That's why Chandler should be embraced. He is good at enough things to have a positive impact on the floor and he's 22 years old.

Hill is not good enough to get on the floor and he's 22. Hopefully that changes soon. Kid just looks to me like the game is too fast for him, which can just be a matter of getting settled in.

If Donnie could have had anyone from these two drafts I think he would have wanted Westbrook and Evans. Maybe Mayo. He just could never pull the trigger on deals to get those players that he really wanted. He does seem to take the "safe" route from his draft history with us and with the Pacers. That got him all of one impact player between 1988 and today (Granger). We'll see. Hill needs a PG to pick and roll his way to the basket too, so maybe we'll see better results from him when we get that position settled.

the least the knicks could do is bring in a big man coach so zero resistance doesnt end up like the prior AZ bigman bust Frye.

jennings is literally the exact prototype for d'antoni. he can make very difficult passes. he has great 3-point range. he can play up-tempo. he's a great ball-handler. its a glaring indictment of walsh's drafting that the knicks two first rounders are getting DNP-CDs by game #2. pathetic. duhon is playing an absolute ton and douglas can't get off the bench. douglas doesn't even really fit what d'antoni needs. nash and barbosa were great for MDA in phoenix, they are quick, shifty scoring points. douglas is a defender and was a wily scorer in college, but jennings was the quickest guy in the draft by pretty much every account! this offense is called 7 seconds or less, is it not? i mean, its just bizarre and truly a terrible draft selection.

djsunyc wrote:knicks probably took hill b/c they thought david was going to ask for too much $$$. they used their #8 pick on an insurance policy. if they re-sign david, hill won't be a starter so the pick may have been misused.

If David Lee was the concern then the Knicks could have signed Wilcox to a one year contract. If they were afraid to make the risky pick of Jennings they could have traded down to pick up Holiday or Lawson or Teague (who I liked for Coach D).

No, I think the Knicks just had Hill high on their draft board and they picked the guy they thought was the biggest talent left. In the long run, who knows, this pick may play out to be a decent one. In the short run (the importance of which cannot be discounted given our 2010 plans) the pick was a bad one.

This kid looked liked **** in summer league. Summer league. He is lost out there has terrible footwork and looks uninspired. Again Walsh really needs to be called into question. Douglas can't play then why did we waste a pick on him? Could have got Affalo to provide the perimeter defense at the two and knock down a few shots. Walsh seems to play it safe, but play it stupid at the same time.

Jennings is very impressive and gets people involved. He doesn't drive the lane and kick out. He scores, rebounds and can find the open man, not to mention being lighting.

This kid was a top 3 pick had he not gone to europe. I don't see why Walsh wasn't more aggressive even trying to get lawson. If you get creative you can get guys on the cheap like Ryan Anderson, Blair, Budinger.

Frankly the way I see it is if you play in the PAC 10 which is a ****ty conference and you are touted as a high selection and our not a freshman you should never be a bubble team. Walsh doesn't know how to build a team he just gets similiar parts. We don't have time to wait on guys, the time is now we need to put a product on the floor. Why walsh didn't go Jennings/Derozen and Blair we will never know. We would be in a great position if he just pulled the trigger on the nate deal and we could have had the core of Jennings-Chandler-Gallo-Blair-Lee.

McK1 wrote:When did MDA become a pg coach? Any that he has actually had to develop DIDN'T.

Care to give some examples?

Because I look at what he did with Steve Nash (going from occasional all-star to two-time MVP) or Chris Duhon (who really had no business looking as good as he did at times last season before breaking down in the second half) and I see a coach who gets the very most out of the PGs in his system.

BigSm00th wrote:i love how everyone talks about how immature he is. he was the first guy to go to europe, how can he be immature? rather than go jerk around in college for a year and go to a few classes, he went to a foreign country and played pro ball. there were only 2 other americans on the team (allan ray from nova being one of them, i forget the other), not to mention the fact that he's the first guy to do this. that reeks of maturity, not immaturity, to me. i had my own list of prospects during the draft and it was heartbreaking watching rubio and curry and everyone fly off but jennings was highest on the board when it came around.

jennings is literally the exact prototype for d'antoni. he can make very difficult passes. he has great 3-point range. he can play up-tempo. he's a great ball-handler. its a glaring indictment of walsh's drafting that the knicks two first rounders are getting DNP-CDs by game #2. pathetic. duhon is playing an absolute ton and douglas can't get off the bench. douglas doesn't even really fit what d'antoni needs. nash and barbosa were great for MDA in phoenix, they are quick, shifty scoring points. douglas is a defender and was a wily scorer in college, but jennings was the quickest guy in the draft by pretty much every account! this offense is called 7 seconds or less, is it not? i mean, its just bizarre and truly a terrible draft selection.

Good post. What I bolded makes this so frustrating to watch. Its like they wouldnt even give Jennings a chance.

RemBee76 wrote:

sebstar wrote:Hill cant even get off the bench. He was horrible in summer league. What are we supposed to think?

Too Soon? I think when a lottery pick can't outplay Jared Jeffries its never too soon to consider that a problem.

LOL. Word.