BRIGGS wrote:The problem with FA is you *have* to usually overpay. Is Chris Bosh a maximum player--YES He 25 years old and has been a 22.5-10r-2.5 a 1 block guy 50% the last 4 years. Is he Lebron James or Kobe Bryant---nope but that really doesn't matter. Someone will give him a max contract--there is NO doubt about it. In fact for BC to come out and say anything about Bosh in a negative way is kind if stupid even if he feels that way.

Dj--would you take Mcgee Young Criterion a number 1 pick and an ending contract for Bosh? I would take it for D Lee--to much risk keeping Lee even though he is the best player. If we stall and someone offers D Lee 12mm per for 5 in minute 1 of FA--I don't think D Lee is going to turn that down--who would? So we could lose an all star level player like Lee for nothing. If we don't get Lebron James that is an enormous step back.

If we decide to keep Lee they have to pony up--this team is VERY complicated in terms of structure. We could have a decent team this year and than lose the entire face of it for a player like Joe Johnson who will be 31? I hope that is not the case. If we can resign DLee and add Bosh---that would be awesome. But can it be done?

if bosh decides to leave, colangelo will have to take the best package he can get to the team bosh wants to go to...or take back a massive trade exemption. i don't think the wizards have the money for bosh although that is the city where his daughter lives.

if the best offer is mcgee, young, critertton and #1 pick, then colangelo has to take it. plus, imho, i don't think the raptors lose anything (and might be better) if bargs moves to the PF spot and they get a center.

colangelo is the only gm to talk about his player leaving. other gm's say the standard, "we hope to sign him" stuff. colangelo does say that but always talks about sign and trades too. so he's either being very candid or he knows bosh has 1 foot out the door.

bosh + lebron + wade can all change teams, and none of it will be b/c of winning or the players on it. the only exception is if one of them join wade and that's only possible in miami.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:

GKFv2 wrote:I read somewhere Wade is the most likely to leave out of everyone. Not sure how true it is but yeah.

I'm beginning to think this also, Miami truly has no interest in improving.

the thing with miami is that they can get lebron or bosh to come there to play with wade.

i can understand wade's frustration - the guy's body gets beat up so his prime years (post shaq) have been somewhat wasted. but if he stops being a primadonna bitch and waits another summer, he could be right back in the title hunt.

djsunyc wrote:

TMS wrote:let's say we sign Bosh this offseason to a max contract & then sign Carmelo to a max contract next year, would u say Donnie has failed in his plan or succeeded?

i don't see that happening. there is no way they are shedding cap for 2 summers. once they sign their guy, they will start spending and making in season deals to acquire players/contracts.

in Donnie's pre-season interview (shown on Knicks' season preview show on MSG last night) he mentioned he wanted to make moves to have cap flexibility this offseason & next... just a thought cuz it's a long shot that we sign Lebron or Wade to max extensions this offseason, especially w/o another max FA coming in with them, so that could be an alternative plan of action in Donnie's mind... picking up a player like Bosh would make sense if he could get someone like Melo a year later... in the meantime they fill in around Bosh to field a competitive team for a year & make the Knicks somewhat relevant again.

JrZyHuStLa wrote:If the Knicks TODAY had Bosh and Melo we're still behind LAL, SA, ORL, BOS, and maybe CLE. Role players would have to be key for us.

This doesn't fit the bill in creating a contender.

how do figure it doesn't fit the bill in creating a contender when ur pointing out it would make us the 3rd best team in the Eastern Conference? once u get to the playoffs anything can happen... the best team doesn't always necessarily win.

kam77 wrote:

JrZyHuStLa wrote:Some of the guys I just listed are Hall of Fame Caliber, Bosh and Melo will never join them.

Well, just to play devils advocate, in two-three years the Lakers, Spurs, Celts are all going to be falling off.

Our competition will be with teams like Orlando, OKC and maybe Portland

Right, but I said "If TODAY the Knicks had Bosh and Melo"

I thought you knew that I was talking about today, as I mentioned.

Either way though, If Bosh and Melo can't help us today, what makes you think they'd be helping in 2 years ?

kam77 wrote:you just have a cap-hold for your old guy that you need to renounce, or if the caphold is low enough so that the cap is not exceeeded, you can wait til after signing the FA.

Yeah, that was my understanding. As long as you do the caphold, you can resign another team's FA and then your own.

TheGame wrote:If we got Bosh this summer and then added Melo next summer when Curry and Jeffries leave the team, we would have a core of Douglas, Chandler, Melo, Bosh, Darko, with Gallo and Nate off the bench. That seems like a fairly solid team IMO. If you let Gallo play some Center, we would have one of the best shooting teams in the league. I assume that we use Lee and Hill as part of trades to get Melo and Bosh.

No complaints about this line up.

It's probably not so far-fetched. But we have to make the playoffs both this year and next to actually draw these guys here.