Posted by sebstar:

Thumbs way down for that gay ass thread title. Homosexual thread titles? Man we off that. Get your mind right by the time you hit Vegas chief. Got me all scared to go to your hotel room and shyt.

Posted by EnySpree:

He's always around the ball and his hands are very quick on defense...The dude knows how to play and he isn't afraid of anything out there. It buggs me out how his only knock is he is too fast for the nba righ tnow, lol...usually guys have to learn how to catch up. He actually has to slow it down. When he finds that balance he'll be a fine point guard.

Finally the Knicks have a guy that can compete with his peers at his position. It's a good feeling.

Also...now I'm glad they Knicks didn't sign Sessions. They are essentially the same player, except Toney is actually faster and probably a better defender. So quietly Donnie made the right decision with that.

Posted by EnySpree:

Finally the Knicks have a guy that can compete with his peers at his position. It's a good feeling.

Also...now I'm glad they Knicks didn't sign Sessions. They are essentially the same player, except Toney is actually faster and probably a better defender. So quietly Donnie made the right decision with that.

Posted by JohnWallace44:

Posted by EnySpree:

Finally the Knicks have a guy that can compete with his peers at his position. It's a good feeling.

Also...now I'm glad they Knicks didn't sign Sessions. They are essentially the same player, except Toney is actually faster and probably a better defender. So quietly Donnie made the right decision with that.

Um... wow dude, I really want these Knicks to do well, but I try to stay grounded in reality. Our front office has done arguably worse than any other in the last two drafts just looking at results to this point.

How is Douglas competing with his peers at his position?

Are his peers the other young PG's in the East? Rose, Rondo, etc? Or do you mean the PG's drafted late in the draft like Teague, Holiday, Beaubois?

Either way, I'm confused.

Is competing getting up in somebody's grill? You can do that. Can you win ballgames in this league directing the Knicks though?

Douglas tries hard, but let's not go overboard.

Posted by sebstar:

Posted by Panos:

Posted by sebstar:

Thumbs way down for that gay ass thread title. Homosexual thread titles? Man we off that. Get your mind right by the time you hit Vegas chief. Got me all scared to go to your hotel room and shyt.

"heart"ing anything on this forum should be an automatic ban.
In fact, Andrew and Martin should even have to do anything.
Type "I heart ..." Hit post, and account automatically locks.

Well said.

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by EnySpree:

I think he's better than Charlie and Childs...at least offensively. His handle is way better than I saw in the summer league. Last night he was crossing dudes up and getting in the lane. He split the defense a couple times too. That lay-up over Lopez in the 4th was pretty awesome too.

Toney has the weird problem at guard that he is going too fast...it works well on defense but he has to learn to shift in and out of that speed on offense.

His jumper is there...his ability to draw fouls are there too. He's also a good communicator out there. I bet by mid-season we all will be looking at the future starting point guard of the Knicks.

I swear to the heavens above, if I here one more person say someone is better than Charlie Ward I am going to come to their house............

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by EnySpree:

I think he's better than Charlie and Childs...at least offensively. His handle is way better than I saw in the summer league. Last night he was crossing dudes up and getting in the lane. He split the defense a couple times too. That lay-up over Lopez in the 4th was pretty awesome too.

Toney has the weird problem at guard that he is going too fast...it works well on defense but he has to learn to shift in and out of that speed on offense.

His jumper is there...his ability to draw fouls are there too. He's also a good communicator out there. I bet by mid-season we all will be looking at the future starting point guard of the Knicks.

I swear to the heavens above, if I here one more person say someone is better than Charlie Ward I am going to come to their house............

I think Toney Douglas is better than Charlie Ward (and they went to the same school).

Seriously though, Douglas is alot faster than he showed in SL play. He still has not shown the ability to finish at the rim consistently, but he is tenacious on defense and has a good mid-range game. In 2-3 years with yearly improvement, he could turn into a starter.

His defense alone is enough to keep him in the league for the next 10 years. Am I the only one that has noticed how stifling our defense has been when Nate, TD, Wilson and Jared are in the game? In the land of "there is more to basketball then offense) TD is already a contributor. Can't argue with his rebounding and overall fight. He is something we have been clamoring for years. Can he develop further? That remains to be seen. But so far I like what I see from the 29th pick!!!! You get 8 guys with his heart and you are winning games. Book it!

Posted by BasketballJones:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by TheGame:

Posted by Bippity10:

Posted by EnySpree:

I think he's better than Charlie and Childs...at least offensively. His handle is way better than I saw in the summer league. Last night he was crossing dudes up and getting in the lane. He split the defense a couple times too. That lay-up over Lopez in the 4th was pretty awesome too.

Toney has the weird problem at guard that he is going too fast...it works well on defense but he has to learn to shift in and out of that speed on offense.

His jumper is there...his ability to draw fouls are there too. He's also a good communicator out there. I bet by mid-season we all will be looking at the future starting point guard of the Knicks.

I swear to the heavens above, if I here one more person say someone is better than Charlie Ward I am going to come to their house............

I think Toney Douglas is better than Charlie Ward (and they went to the same school).

Seriously though, Douglas is alot faster than he showed in SL play. He still has not shown the ability to finish at the rim consistently, but he is tenacious on defense and has a good mid-range game. In 2-3 years with yearly improvement, he could turn into a starter.

His defense alone is enough to keep him in the league for the next 10 years. Am I the only one that has noticed how stifling our defense has been when Nate, TD, Wilson and Jared are in the game? In the land of "there is more to basketball then offense) TD is already a contributor. Can't argue with his rebounding and overall fight. He is something we have been clamoring for years. Can he develop further? That remains to be seen. But so far I like what I see from the 29th pick!!!! You get 8 guys with his heart and you are winning games. Book it!

Yes, he has a very Charlie Ward like quality, only better.